Augie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: A lot of guards on the team now. It makes me wonder if Morse could be a surprise cut or trade to free up some cap space? Bates could slide in at center without too much drop off. Just a thought. Morse ain’t cheap, and the concussions scare me (on multiple levels). As noted above, some of the older, more expensive guys might get you a draft chip next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, DJB said: Why is everyone trying to cut Morse all the time? Age, concussion history and $8M freed up against the cap. I don't agree with it...but I understand it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, DJB said: Why is everyone trying to cut Morse all the time? I'm not pounding the table to get rid of Morse, but we have seen Bates capably play center. We are light on cap space and still could use a couple late-stage free agent signings to round out our DL. Not to mention a certain WR that I would still love to find a way to obtain. Moving on from Morse may be the best available avenue to clear up a decent amount of cap space without a huge drop off to the next man in line. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: More young OL to develop not a bad thing to have around. Develop them so another team can pluck them off our PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: What I can gather: Above average strength, below average athlete, good pass blocker. Center? He practiced some at center at the senior bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 ANY Kent Hull Award winner is a winner in my book! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wizard said: Beane seems to have a fetish for positions. One year it was defensive ends. We are in the too light to play linebacker fetish, and we have started the “get 15 OG’s and hope 4 are above average.” I hope next year he picks 3 DT’s that are 330lbs+ I'd have been cool with every pick from 2 onward to be O-line. Hell, grab a T or C next! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: I'm not pounding the table to get rid of Morse, but we have seen Bates capably play center. We are light on cap space and still could use a couple late-stage free agent signings to round out our DL. Not to mention a certain WR that I would still love to find a way to obtain. Moving on from Morse may be the best available avenue to clear up a decent amount of cap space without a huge drop off to the next man in line. May be the best for him as well. His brain will be slush of he gets another concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I said in the draft thread it’s obvious by the trade downs that the Bills draft board was tapped out. if that’s true, it makes sense for the Bills to draft guys that they have good depth in because they will never be able to convince Broeker to come here as a UDFA with all the Guards we have. It’s easier to convince DTs to come here after you show them you have none signed after this year. Drafting a DT this late deters other DTs from coming in as UDFAs 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) Damn, he was teammates with Luke Knox and already knew Dawson. Edited April 29, 2023 by The Wiz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: A lot of guards on the team now. It makes me wonder if Morse could be a surprise cut or trade to free up some cap space? Bates could slide in at center without too much drop off. Just a thought. I think the 2021/2022 version of Morse is a much better C than many here give him credit for, and the drop-off to Bates is bigger than people think. If there's one Beane draft choice that I'm still salty about, it's the choice to draft Boogie Basham in 2021 with Creed Humphrey on the board. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas56 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Age, concussion history and $8M freed up against the cap. I don't agree with it...but I understand it. This is where I am, too. I can’t make other people’s life decisions, but he should retire. I think he has been a very good center for us, a bit of stability for Josh. But I can see moving on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvinny Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Can play all 5 spots on the o line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. 2 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chas56 said: This is where I am, too. I can’t make other people’s life decisions, but he should retire. I think he has been a very good center for us, a bit of stability for Josh. But I can see moving on. Bates can play center but I don't think we have another guy on the team that can play center. Edwards may have taken a few snaps at C but I don't know that he even makes the roster. My guess is Morse plays this year and Bates is your C in 2024 4 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: Can play all 5 spots on the o line. Short arms even for a guard. No way he play OT in NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chas56 said: This is where I am, too. I can’t make other people’s life decisions, but he should retire. I think he has been a very good center for us, a bit of stability for Josh. But I can see moving on. After the horrific play of Morse’s injury replacements last season, I don’t want anyone else snapping the ball who isn’t a full fledged Center. Minnesota and 1st Miami game were lost because of this. (I still weep in the dark over those plays) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. There is no F+ 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. I mean, in fairness to the Bills, after the first two rounds, they seemed done with the draft as well. We’ll see what the plan is for Dorian Williams, and given the multiple meetings between Bills/Shorter they clearly viewed him as a mid-late round developmental WR they wanted, but after that … they were literally trading away picks for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He seems equal parts versatile and likable. Hoping he becomes a gem. . Edited April 29, 2023 by Augie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Seems like a really good depth option. Lord knows we needed it last season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: There is no F+ Uh oh, maybe I didn’t graduate!!! 😱 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. I’ll take things that can be easily predicted for $500 Alex. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I’ll take things that can be easily predicted for $500 Alex. Did liking the first two rounds shock anybody? Should we do welfare checks on those with heart conditions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, Wizard said: Beane seems to have a fetish for positions. One year it was defensive ends. We are in the too light to play linebacker fetish, and we have started the “get 15 OG’s and hope 4 are above average.” I hope next year he picks 3 DT’s that are 330lbs+ That's how ya get holes in the roster. We're flush at guard but next year we won't have a single DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: That's how ya get holes in the roster. We're flush at guard but next year we won't have a single DT. That's what pick 252 is for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 One of his Comps was Ryan Bates haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: That's how ya get holes in the roster. We're flush at guard but next year we won't have a single DT. They are not getting executed. Let's see how Jones and Settle play this season. Another in next years draft and an UFA and it's full. Next year is next year and I'm quite sure Beane can read a roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Anderson and Tenuta the last two late round OL did not make the roster. This guy will have an uphill battle to make it too both got poached from our PS...Anderson did hang 1.5 years and spot starts with Eagles and Judy Tenuta went to Colts PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I’m guessing we’ll sign a vet DE and DT over the next few days 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 48 minutes ago, Conlan58 said: Actually shocked to see another IOL pick. Almost like McBeane have been checking in on this board. I think he's just tired of watching Josh get killed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: That's what pick 252 is for... Guess not. At least we know next year will be 2 DTs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, HappyDays said: A lot of guards on the team now. It makes me wonder if Morse could be a surprise cut or trade to free up some cap space? Bates could slide in at center without too much drop off. Just a thought. I don’t think Morse is going anywhere in 2023… they love him …maybe Bates gets traded instead?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m guessing we’ll sign a vet DE and DT over the next few days Fortunately there are a lot of them available 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: They are not getting executed. Let's see how Jones and Settle play this season. Another in next years draft and an UFA and it's full. Next year is next year and I'm quite sure Beane can read a roster. Fair enough. Just seems an odd trend Beane keeps drafting 2 players at the same position he sees an immediate hole (DE, TE, CB, G). Would seem more efficient to spread it out. But like you said, we'll see what he does next year. Edited April 29, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Can play OT and G 0 sacks allowed in 472 pass block snaps 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, DJB said: Why is everyone trying to cut Morse all the time? Not that I agree necessarily, but it would save millions plus he is a concussion away from potentially having to hang it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Fair enough. Just seems an odd trend Beane keeps drafting 2 players at the same position he sees an immediate hole (DE, CB, G). Would seem more efficient to spread it out. But like you said, we'll see what he does next year. I'm expecting this might happen in a certain position every year. Core is getting set and competitive teams with QBs signed have to go through it. Beane needs to hit on his DL picks next time around for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Didn’t miss a game in 4 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Didn’t miss a game in 4 years It's an excellent seventh round pick. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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