RD 3, Pick 91: LB Dorian Williams, Tulane

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

It’s funny we have like borderline around the clock weight trainers and dietitians but people think a guy in their early 20s can’t put on 10-15lbs in an offseason. There are unlimited resources here and this is their jobs. It will not be an issue.

[gonzo1105]

Just now, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Fair enough, but that could easily be just that they're so thrilled with Taron Johnson that they don't want to take him out.

Then why sign Taylor Rapp and draft Dorian Williams if their plan is to stay status quo

[freddyjj]

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Milano was scouted by Whaley and his team, which for all their faults, were great at identifying LBs. Just sayin.

Ergggghhh .... Ragland, Preston Brown, Tony Steward, Randell Johnson, Tanner Vallejo were bums.

 

Only Milano panned out. 

 

 

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Didn't they say the same about Terrell Bernard?? 

Can't hit on every pick..

[Floydboy12]

He’s better than Bernard and I didn’t hate the Bernard pick. The game has changed. These guys have to cover a ton of ground now. I think he’s the starter opposite Milano next year. 

[Solomon Grundy]

3 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

They've been decent there, outside of Moss.

 

Singletary, Knox, Phillips were all solid to very good. Brown is promising, though it could still go either way, and with Bernard, it's too early, who knows.

They're all GONE... with the exception of Knox who'd probably be gone if not for his foolish contract

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

They've been decent there, outside of Moss.

 

Singletary, Knox, Phillips were all solid to very good. Brown is promising, though it could still go either way, and with Bernard, it's too early, who knows.

Bernard?

[Cash]

3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

We do have a plan, Beane is good. A few thoughts on this pick -

 

1.) We place a big emphasis on ST - this is certainly one of those picks.

 

2.) When you spend a couple mill on Matekevich and Taiwan Jones, you can use the picks to reduce the cap hit and save that money to pay others. I get it, but it feels like we maybe place a bit too much importance on them this high in the draft.

 

3.) McD is a really good DC (after Philly), we do need to add to the D, but this draft overall is a thin light one

 

4.) This pick was more on physical and athletic traits and hoping you get lucky with development IMO. IN round 3 it is early, but again this is a light draft

Good post! I’ll push back on #1 though - 3rd round is usually too early to draft a special teamer, unless maybe it’s a dynamic returner. I know it’s a weak draft, and that might change things to some extent. But I strongly hope that he was drafted for his play on defense first and on ST second. 

2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Then why sign Taylor Rapp and draft Dorian Williams if their plan is to stay status quo

Depth? We had a massive amount of injuries on D last year, and it showed. 

[JerseyBills]

Another one - instincts being the key, which seems to be a word that sticks with him and exactly what Edmunds lacked. 

[bearcat]

Hopefully he can add 10-15lbs without losing much(if any) speed. Should be able to get to London Fletcher weight with a NFL program.

 

https://www.nfl.com/players/london-fletcher/

[The Wiz]

45 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Here’s a guy that plays football, allegedly.

Thanks Chris. 😂

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Edmunds was a good choice. Regardless of the pitchfork crowd that he attracted over the years. There's a reason he's now the 4th best paid off-ball LB, behind only Roquan, Shaquille Leonard and Fred Warner.

 

And the reason he was developed was that he was drafted. By the Bills. As a longshot. 

 

You do know that drafting a longshot who becomes terrific says great things about your drafting, right?

 

Hes not terrific

 

He's better than many think.

 

The Bills developed him but wanted to move on so he must be that terrific...?

[Warriorspikes51]

This pick could have really given the OL a new look and made the top 3 rounds a solid A. The selection makes 0 sense to me

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

Another one - instincts being the key, which seems to be a word that sticks with him and exactly what Edmunds lacked. 

except Beane already said he isnt’

[Sharky7337]

One of the big statistical areas the bills got hammered was when milano is out, we took a huge step back on defense. I'm OK if this shores that up.

Edited April 29, 2023 by Sharky7337

[JerseyBills]

Another one..

 

Haven't seen Edmunds do this in 5 years. Could be a lethal combo w/ Milano 

 

 

[Thurman#1]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

You want a serious MLB replacement, go give Luke Kuechly a trillion dollars to unretire. Otherwise I don't really know who fits an Edmunds replacement this late in the draft. 

 

 

True, unfortunately.

 

Once Campbell went, there really wasn't anybody this year.

 

Of course, they could have drafted some other position in the 3rd round.

[Buffalo03]

8 minutes ago, Cash said:

Will do! PM me his number when you get a chance. 

Lmao. Dude, I was just being making an ahole remark on purpose for sh*ts and giggles. Everything is all good

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This pick could have really given the OL a new look and made the top 3 rounds a solid A. The selection makes 0 sense to me

except Beane already said he isnt’

Beane said he isn't what? I'm lost here

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

You hate it when people consider their own prospect projections while determining if they think someone is a reach?  This is strange coming from you. I have nothing but respect for you.  Maybe we have different definitions of reach?

 

I thought Terrell Bernard was a reach.
 

I thought John Ross was a massive reach.  
 

I thought Mika Mamula was a reach. 
 

they were all drafted….. but shouldn’t have been drafted that early- A team drafted them prematurely. Hence a reach. 

 

If what you say is the rule, the term reach wouldn’t exist.  But it does exist.  
 

 

 

 

Ok I guess let me better explain. People are begging for Dawand Jones, Trenton Simpson etc? What is the reason for that?

 

Most of the time, not all , is because they’ve seen those guys really high in a lot of mock draft ls that the media pull out. 
 

So when it gets to the 3rd round and Simpson is still on the board, why are people not questioning the mock drafts that had him going high as he sits there in late round 3 versus realizing there is something going on that they either don’t know or haven’t seen. 
 

I explained Simpson lacks instincts , which Louis Riddick(who’s been interviewed for GM jobs) backs that exact sentiment up on ESPN when the pick goes down.

 

It’s clear Dawand Jones hasn’t gone because theirs weight and work ethic concerns but because he was mocked in round 1 by media , people are still begging for him when it’s now 100 picks deep and 32 NFL GMs have passed on him multiple times. 

[Motorin']

3 minutes ago, bearcat said:

Hopefully he can add 10-15lbs without losing much(if any) speed. Should be able to get to London Fletcher weight with a NFL program.

 

https://www.nfl.com/players/london-fletcher/

 

Darius Leonard plays at 220. Devin White, Roquan Smith, Nick Bolton all play under in the 230's. 

 

He has to put on 5-7 lbs to play Mike in 2023. 

 

 

[Momma Pecoraro]

Looks like Tulane plays Brockport State twice a year.

[JDubya76]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Another one - instincts being the key, which seems to be a word that sticks with him and exactly what Edmunds lacked. 

A twelve year old says trust him, I have bourbon older than the kid with 100 followers.

[Thurman#1]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

Hes not terrific

 

He's better than many think.

 

The Bills developed him but wanted to move on so he must be that terrific...?

 

 

Oh, please. He's All-Pro and not terrific?

 

Milano's absolutely terrific, don't kid yourself.

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Mr. Wonderful]

Not sure I have confidence in a LB from Tulane. Not exactly LB U.  He's got hair like Edmunds, hopefully he's got better football instincts!

[Motor26]

I don't like that they spent a 3rd rounder 2 years in a row on the LB position. I wasn't expecting Baltimore to pick Simpson after trading for Smith but maybe the Cowboys would have taken him anyways.

[transplantbillsfan]

I think we should all take this as an exciting (anxiously exciting) move for our D in general.

 

Seems we now have a pretty good idea that McDermott is really about to change our D. It's interesting that we basically have 3 guys now on the team who kinda straddle that LB/Safety skillset and roll in Rapp, Bernard and Williams... and I didn't even mention Milano.

 

I hope McDermott proves to be the mad defensive genius for this team that Andy Reid is on offense for the Eagles.

[Reed83HOF]

9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I talked about us running a dime formation for MONTHS on and off and got SLAMMED for it...   I have been saying all along.. Cover 2 great for good offenses... but for the great one's? you need to switch it up

We certainly are changing the schemes up on both sides of the ball. Rapp was a give away on that one. When you get to Cincy and KC, they aren't going to maul, pound and bruise you; they are going to throw all over your as$. We have seen that our scheme is great in the regular season and gets exposed in the post season.

 

It will never be said, but I really feel like Sean wanted a change on defense. At that Cincy game watching Frazier just stand there while McD got down with the D players on the sideline to go over film and then seeing him calling plays - it just felt like we couldn't run it back.  You can say 12 seconds was a fluke, but again in the playoffs this year we have had a hard time getting off the field. The Tua - less Phins had a go at us. You can bring up Damar and the mental exhaustion and everything else, but you can't just sit back and take shot after shot.

 

For the teams with a strong running game and crap QB/WRs Klein will get a bunch of playing time - against the 3 WR offenses - lighter LBs and 3 safeties  or Benford/Jackson, Tre Elam and Taron. It does make sense

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, JDubya76 said:

A twelve year old says trust him, I have bourbon older than the kid with 100 followers.

🤣🤣

I digg it

Send a bottle my way!!

Edited April 29, 2023 by JerseyBills

[Taro Nimbus]

So we lose Edmunds, but draft a guy with hair just like him?  🤯🤯🤯

Edited April 29, 2023 by Taro Nimbus

[bearcat]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

Darius Leonard plays at 220. Devin White, Roquan Smith, Nick Bolton all play under in the 230's. 

 

He has to put on 5-7 lbs to play Mike in 2023. 

Even better. Looking at the positives 

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

49 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Probably a reach because of how fast the linebackers went but he is projected as a special teamer who can compete to start.   He probably isnt big enough to play MIKE in the NFL and is more of a fit at WILL.    Oddly enough the kid is almost identical in size to Bernard.  The Bills have a huge problem at MIKE right now.    They are relying on a few undersized 3rd round draft picks to play a position they are too small for.   Meanwhile Dodson is a fringe NFLer.   Right now AJ Klein is probably best suited to start for them.

Let the smurfs play the passing down and distance situations and let Klein play the run downs.

Maybe even mix some 4-3 looks and blitz these guys more. 

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

I think we should all take this as an exciting (anxiously exciting) move for our D in general.

 

Seems we now have a pretty good idea that McDermott is really about to change our D. It's interesting that we basically have 3 guys now on the team who kinda straddle that LB/Safety skillset and roll in Rapp, Bernard and Williams... and I didn't even mention Milano.

 

I hope McDermott proves to be the mad defensive genius for this team that Andy Reid is on offense for the Eagles.

As I said in my post below yours - we have to counter the pass happy offenses, a thumper MLB against KC or Cincy doesn't help us much there. You need guys who can hang with the TEs and help with the WRs and pass catching RBs....

Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Let the smurfs play the passing down and distance situations and let Klein play the run downs.

Maybe even mix some 4-3 looks and blitz these guys more. 

This is the way

[chongli]

1 hour ago, jlgarsh said:

I went to Tulane. Let’s go!!!

 

For me, it brings back bad memories of JP Losman. 😐

[Mr. Wonderful]

9 minutes ago, Floydboy12 said:

He’s better than Bernard and I didn’t hate the Bernard pick. The game has changed. These guys have to cover a ton of ground now. I think he’s the starter opposite Milano next year. 

 

Might want to wait and see how he performs in camp before crowning him a starter in the NFL!

[RyanC883]

58 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

ANOTHER WILLIAMS!!!!

 

yeah, this wasn’t about getting a LB but a Williams.  !!!!  Had to reach for one, not sure any left

[co_springs_billsfan]

Just now, Reed83HOF said:

As I said in my post below yours - we have to counter the pass happy offenses, a thumper MLB against KC or Cincy doesn't help us much there. You need guys who can hang with the TEs and help with the WRs and pass catching RBs....

But what about Edmunds length taking away passing lanes!?

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, co_springs_billsfan said:

But what about Edmunds length taking away passing lanes!?

Did it work?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

We certainly are changing the schemes up on both sides of the ball. Rapp was a give away on that one. When you get to Cincy and KC, they aren't going to maul, pound and bruise you; they are going to throw all over your as$. We have seen that our scheme is great in the regular season and gets exposed in the post season.

 

It will never be said, but I really feel like Sean wanted a change on defense. At that Cincy game watching Frazier just stand there while McD got down with the D players on the sideline to go over film and then seeing him calling plays - it just felt like we couldn't run it back.  You can say 12 seconds was a fluke, but again in the playoffs this year we have had a hard time getting off the field. The Tua - less Phins had a go at us. You can bring up Damar and the mental exhaustion and everything else, but you can't just sit back and take shot after shot.

 

For the teams with a strong running game and crap QB/WRs Klein will get a bunch of playing time - against the 3 WR offenses - lighter LBs and 3 safeties  or Benford/Jackson, Tre Elam and Taron. It does make sense

13 seconds was McDermott not Frazier and we all know it.  

Don't want to argue it anymore but the D has collapsed in every playoff loss going back to the Texans.   McD can't hide from it any longer.  It is his defense entirely now.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

34 minutes ago, Success said:

 

That's a premature judgment, imo.  

 

Gotta see what happens this season.  Bernard COULD be our starter.

 

It’s definitely not.

 

Every scouting report reads the same.

 

Athletic, rangy, but gets overwhelmed by blocks. 
 

That’s college at Tulane. 

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

Did it work?

I agree with you.  Just failing at my sarcasm