BuffaloRebound Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 RB is a position where you gotta know if a guy is still hungry to take the pounding. Huge question mark there with Fournette. If we could get Playoff Lenny or the Damien Harris from 2021, that’s the type of back we need. Probably better to draft one in the 5th or 6th round who’s big and hungry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He and Shaq Lawson can be locker buddies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Good future in canned beer endorsements. (CLANK!) A lot of microbreweries 'round these parts. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s. They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels. Why is this happening? Anyone have some theories they like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s. They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels. Why is this happening? Anyone have some theories they like? Only thing that I can think of is that the defenders have gotten faster and stronger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: 3rd and 1 from your own 40, or 4th and goal from the 1. Do you want your QB taking that hit, or a battering ram? If that is what the team wants, you can get a short yardage guy who can plow through for 1 yard in the 7th round of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: If that is what the team wants, you can get a short yardage guy who can plow through for 1 yard in the 7th round of the draft. Bills don’t have a 7th round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Only thing that I can think of is that the defenders have gotten faster and stronger. I thought that too, but why in the heck are WRs fine. were not talking an isolated incident either, how many starting receivers are outta the league by 27 by comparison? None lol id be curious to see a study of 40 times across a career for receivers and backs. i get theyre diff positions, but that different? weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: If that is what the team wants, you can get a short yardage guy who can plow through for 1 yard in the 7th round of the draft. Thoughts on Mohamed Ibrahim? I like a 6-7th on him for that very role. Check him out if you haven't. I'm not married or hot blooded to getting Fournette. Just wanted to point out the 'pro' argument for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I still think this would be more fun to watch with him in a Bills uni. There's something about the #29 that makes Henry want to shove people. How would you like to get stiff-armed and then used as a blocker by the opposing team's RB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s. They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels. Why is this happening? Anyone have some theories they like? FWIW, Spotrac has his market value at $2.3M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/leonard-fournette-21745/market-value/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Big reason to want Fournette instead of Singletary and the other FA's: He doesn't count against the comp formula. We need to lose more players than we gain and players CUT don't count. Singletary was not cut. Fournette was. So, would you rather have Fournette and a 3rd round pick or Singletary? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-billsfan! Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I have never understood the infatuation with this guy. He basically bulls forward for 3 yards. My infatuation with him is he ran all over us. If we get him on the cheap, and he is not a feature back, I think I like it. He won’t be the best fit for every game plan. But we can abuse soft D’s with him and use him to soften up the tougher defenses. That said I don’t follow him or anything, I just remember hating to play against him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Has lost a step, but he wouldn't be the bell cow here. Short yardage, 3rd downs and pass protection. Possibly a closer when the Bills need to run out clock. Exactly what the doctor ordered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Yeah, let's get him in so that he and Shaq can finish what they started... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: He runs like Zach Moss at this point in his career. If Moss ran with a “bad man” attitude. Not advocating for Fournette, but he plays with an edge that’s lacking in the Bills backfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Shaq Lawson is all in on this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Big reason to want Fournette instead of Singletary and the other FA's: He doesn't count against the comp formula. We need to lose more players than we gain and players CUT don't count. Singletary was not cut. Fournette was. So, would you rather have Fournette and a 3rd round pick or Singletary? They are -1 with free agents already acquiring 3 and losing 2… They need to lose 2 more to get a comp pick… that’s assuming they don’t sign anyone else which I ‘m still expecting another one more signing at least .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Weren’t the Bills interested in signing him the last time he was a FA? He was effective at times last year in a horrendous situation. He’s the embodiment of a bigger bodied RB who can be trusted on 3rd down and in pass pro plus he’s cheap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 This is a hard no for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They are -1 with free agents already acquiring 3 and losing 2… They need to lose 2 more to get a comp pick… that’s assuming they don’t sign anyone else which I ‘m still expecting another one more signing at least .. Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board. It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded. Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board. It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded. Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch. Beane mentioned that in his presser yesterday. I wonder why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Depending on the price, we could do a lot worse than Leonard Fournette. Dude runs hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Dude just produces. Absent injury concern I’d not be shocked if Beane were interested. 3.5 yards per carry last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Rigotz said: Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board. It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded. Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch. It’s possible yes… but unlikely I think …I still think it’s likely the Bills make another signing themselves …still got my eye on an LB replacement for Edmunds .., and that list you quote is full of ordinary guys … I also believe that other teams can wait a few weeks and none of these players will count right? They are all depth guys so why wouldn’t you just wait? Hope I’m wrong as we haven’t had a comp pick in the Beane era and this would be a third round.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Fournette almost won the jaguars the afc title in 2018. Get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBill Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 He's one of those guys you can trust. You need a yard? He'll get you a yard. You need 2 yards? He'll get you a yard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Anyone can say what they will about him, but he has a nose of the endzone. What? He definitely does not. Rookie year he got 9, but he’s been average at best since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: What? He definitely does not. Rookie year he got 9, but he’s been average at best since then. Click the Playoffs tab to get 10 more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Draconator said: So you are saying there is a possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 hours ago, NewEra said: Fournette makes sense- not sure about 3M, I’m thinking we can get a RB for 2M Yup, $2m is a great price. I like him as a short yardage, kill the clock back. Still runs hard. But we would have to use more of Hynes as a RB and hopefully Cook keeps getting better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: One bigger body back said about himself: "If you need 1 yard, I will get you 3. If you need 5 yards, I will get you 3." That's Fournette to me now. Might not be such a bad thing (if he can actually get you 3 when you need 1 yard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Haven't really watched him for a while. If he's still as solid as his stats seem to indicate, I'd welcome him. But I can't see them spending much money on an RB like that. Money might be the thing which would send them elsewhere, IMO. EDIT: yeah, as WPPete says above, I'd take him for $2M. Edited March 18, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Beane mentioned that in his presser yesterday. I wonder why? Players who were cut don't count against comp picks. Losing Tremaine will get us a 3rd round comp pick if we play the system right. 5 hours ago, Rigotz said: Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board. It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded. Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch. Hadn't looked at the particulars. Nice post. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) This guy elevates his play in big games and playoffs. if Tom Brady wanted him, good enough for me. FWIW, Diggs posted a pic of him on his IG story Edited March 18, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This guy elevates his play in big games and playoffs. if Tom Brady wanted him, good enough for me. FWIW, Diggs posted a pic of him on his IG story It's a link to Fournette's post where he says "The realest in this sh-t.... Ask about me see y'all real soon" Most likely just Diggs promoting a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This is a hard no for me Why because you don't want a productive back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Does he read the good book? Is he a culture guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Didn’t he get into it with some of our players last year or the year before when we played them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, BritishBill said: He's one of those guys you can trust. You need a yard? He'll get you a yard. You need 2 yards? He'll get you a yard Unlike some fans who think Singletary should return, Diggs is pushing for us too sign this guy. 235 lbs and runs a 4.5 forty, I guarantee teams will not have LB'S running backwards at the snap of the ball and we may even see play action. No DC is worried about Singletary and his average YPC is only because because give up those 12-15 year runs because they are focused on the pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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