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RB is a position where you gotta know if a guy is still hungry to take the pounding.  Huge question mark there with Fournette.  If we could get Playoff Lenny or the Damien Harris from 2021, that’s the type of back we need.  Probably better to draft one in the 5th or 6th round who’s big and hungry.  

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with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask

absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. 

 

SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s.  They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels.  Why is this happening?  Anyone have some theories they like?

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2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask

absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. 

 

SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s.  They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels.  Why is this happening?  Anyone have some theories they like?

Only thing that I can think of is that the defenders have gotten faster and stronger.

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2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Only thing that I can think of is that the defenders have gotten faster and stronger.

I thought that too, but why in the heck are WRs fine. were not talking an isolated incident either, how many starting receivers are outta the league by 27 by comparison? None lol  id be curious to see a study of 40 times across a career for receivers and backs. i get theyre diff positions, but that different? weird

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2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


If that is what the team wants, you can get a short yardage guy who can plow through for 1 yard in the 7th round of the draft.

Thoughts on Mohamed Ibrahim? I like a 6-7th on him for that very role.


Check him out if you haven't.

 

I'm not married or hot blooded to getting Fournette. Just wanted to point out the 'pro' argument for him.

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I still think this would be more fun to watch with him in a Bills uni. There's something about the #29 that makes Henry want to shove people. :lol:

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How would you like to get stiff-armed and then used as a blocker by the opposing team's RB? 

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15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

with the quality of backs weve seen sign for $3m we can do better, or he can lower his ask

absolutely insane how much backs value has deteriorated. Beanie Babies hold their value better. 

 

SERIOUS QUESTION - wtf happened to backs that their careers are basically toast by 26-27???? Look at the backs of 90s- early 2000s.  They were getting infinite more carries, everyone was THE workhorse, and they plaid till 30+ at high levels.  Why is this happening?  Anyone have some theories they like?

 

FWIW, Spotrac has his market value at $2.3M.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/leonard-fournette-21745/market-value/

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Big reason to want Fournette instead of Singletary and the other FA's:

 

He doesn't count against the comp formula. We need to lose more players than we gain and players CUT don't count. Singletary was not cut. Fournette was.

 

So, would you rather have Fournette and a 3rd round pick or Singletary?

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have never understood the infatuation with this guy. He basically bulls forward for 3 yards. 

My infatuation with him is he ran all over us. If we get him on the cheap, and he is not a feature back, I think I like it. He won’t be the best fit for every game plan. But we can abuse soft D’s with him and use him to soften up the tougher defenses. That said I don’t follow him or anything, I just remember hating to play against him. 

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1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

Big reason to want Fournette instead of Singletary and the other FA's:

 

He doesn't count against the comp formula. We need to lose more players than we gain and players CUT don't count. Singletary was not cut. Fournette was.

 

So, would you rather have Fournette and a 3rd round pick or Singletary?


They are -1 with free agents already acquiring 3 and losing 2…

 

They need to lose 2 more to get a comp pick… that’s assuming they don’t sign anyone else which I ‘m still expecting another one more signing at least ..

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Weren’t the Bills interested in signing him the last time he was a FA? He was effective at times last year in a horrendous situation. He’s the embodiment of a bigger bodied RB who can be trusted on 3rd down and in pass pro plus he’s cheap.

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2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


They are -1 with free agents already acquiring 3 and losing 2…

 

They need to lose 2 more to get a comp pick… that’s assuming they don’t sign anyone else which I ‘m still expecting another one more signing at least ..

 

Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board.

It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded.

 

Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch.

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1 minute ago, Rigotz said:

 

Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board.

It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded.

 

Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch.

 

Beane mentioned that in his presser yesterday.  I wonder why?

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Just now, Rigotz said:

 

Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board.

It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded.

 

Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch.


It’s possible yes… but unlikely I think …I still think it’s likely the Bills make another signing themselves …still got my eye on an LB replacement for Edmunds .., and that list you quote  is full of ordinary guys … I also believe that other teams can wait a few weeks and none of these players will count right? They are all depth guys so why wouldn’t you just wait? 

 

Hope I’m wrong as we haven’t had a comp pick in the Beane era and this would be a third round..

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7 hours ago, NewEra said:

Fournette makes sense-  not sure about 3M, I’m thinking we can get a RB for 2M


Yup, $2m is a great price. I like him as a short yardage, kill the clock back. Still runs hard. But we would have to use more of Hynes as a RB and hopefully Cook keeps getting better. 

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8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

One bigger body back said about himself:

 

"If you need 1 yard, I will get you 3.  If you need 5 yards, I will get you 3."

 

That's Fournette to me now.

Might not be such a bad thing (if he can actually get you 3 when you need 1 yard)

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Haven't really watched him for a while.

 

If he's still as solid as his stats seem to indicate, I'd welcome him. But I can't see them spending much money on an RB like that. Money might be the thing which would send them elsewhere, IMO.

 

EDIT: yeah, as WPPete says above, I'd take him for $2M. 

 

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4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Beane mentioned that in his presser yesterday.  I wonder why?

 

 

Players who were cut don't count against comp picks.

 

Losing Tremaine will get us a 3rd round comp pick if we play the system right.

 

 

5 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

Correct, and the problem with signing Singletary is you take one of our few available Free Agents off the board.

It is very, very possible to get back in the positive by strategically signing only players who were cut or traded.

 

Meanwhile, we need these guys to get contracts from other teams: Singletary, Roger Saffold, Jordan Phillips, Jamison Crowder, David Quessenberry, Shaq Lawson, Bobby Hart.... the rest are probably a stretch.

 

 

Hadn't looked at the particulars. Nice post. Food for thought.

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22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This guy elevates his play in big games and playoffs.

 

if Tom Brady wanted him, good enough for me.

 

FWIW, Diggs posted a pic of him on his IG story

 

It's a link to Fournette's post where he says "The realest in this sh-t.... Ask about me see y'all real soon"

 

Most likely just Diggs promoting a friend. 

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12 hours ago, BritishBill said:

He's one of those guys you can trust.

 

You need a yard? He'll get you a yard.

 

You need 2 yards? He'll get you a yard

Unlike some fans who think Singletary should return,  Diggs is pushing for us too sign this guy.  235 lbs and runs a 4.5 forty,  I guarantee teams will not have LB'S running backwards at the snap of the ball and we may even see play action.  No DC is worried about Singletary and his average YPC is only because because give up those 12-15 year runs because they are focused on the pass. 

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