Possible McKenzie Replacement Bills sign Deonte Harty (formally Deonte Harris)

[Lost]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

 

LiL Dirty wants to be released?

[Rico]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

So, for the money, is Harty (potentially) our starting slot? 

3.7M cap hit isn’t that bad, especially if you subtract 2.5M from that if we cut McKenzie. 
 

The speed/route running explosiveness in his highlights is impressive.  
 

I literally have never heard of this man until today.  
 

Better him than Crowder. 

[MrEpsYtown]

5 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

He only ran 4.48 at the combine. Is he supposed to be quicker than that?

 

I see 4.35

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

So did he change his last name? I’m confused by the Harris Harty thing. 

Kinda like McKittrick/McKenzie...😎

[Success]

It's worth watching the highlights.  He reminds me of Sproles.

 

[Brandon]

6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

He only ran 4.48 at the combine. Is he supposed to be quicker than that?

 

He ran a 4.35 at his pro day. 

 

Regardless,  it's readily apparent watching his highlights that he has elite speed on the field. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Brandon

[BillsDiehard]

4 years, 4 TDs...great signing! A return specialist, another special teams player!

[BillsShredder83]

28 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I like the signing because we obviously need more legit weapons, but my only question is what's going on with Shakir?  I was hoping this year he was going to take over the slot role.

seems like complimentary pieces. shakir is quick (not fast), and a strong runner, mini deebo was the comp. this guy is blazing speed and elusive, HR hitter. possession vs big play ability. excited to see how dorsey uses them

[Bangarang]

Guy is tiny and seems to get injured a lot. If he’s just a return man then I’m not a fan. 
 

The goal better be to use him a lot on offense.

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

I'm curious, what do you see that he "brings ot the field?"  Here is his career gamelog;  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HarrDe07/gamelog/

 

I'm guessing it's the kinda thing where you actually have to watch the game.  😁

 

Return man wasn't very high up our needs list given all the other needs.  BTW, he's got a 47.9 rating on PFF, which is piss poor.  While hardly the end-all-to-be-all, their methodology is sound over there.  

 

Right now I see Milano having a busy season.  LOL  Apparently until further notice his new position is OIMOLB.  LOL  

 

Seems like a stupid signing to me.  I mean really, we sign Hines as an outlet, don't use him at all like that, when he's fantastic at it.  Draft Cook for the same reason, don't use him much.  I don't see this guy catching more than 25-30 passes with all of the options that Allen has.  If I had to bet I'd say fewer than 20.  That was hardly the case in NO where they had a roster full of nothing JAG WRs.  

 

Terrible signing, waste of money, and IMO this is Beane's way of trying to recover Hodgins, thinking he's going under the wire to redeem himself.  Sounds just like Beane.  His Draft had better be A+ or he's going to sink himself.  

 

 

 

 

If it’s fair to talk about his 47 Pff rating in a season that saw him get 2 targets and miss most of the season to injury….I suppose it’s fair to talk about his 87 Pff rating the year prior….when he was mostly healthy and actually played a lot of snaps.  
 

You could be right about It being a waste of 5M - for one year.  His real money is tied to playing and production incentives. 
 

He can play if healthy.  Healthy is the only major concern….other than Dorsey’s ability to make proper use of him….and Hines and cook and shakir and knox. If Dorsey does a good job, I think we’ll be very happy with the signing.  If Dorsey doesn’t do a good job, it’ll be Beanes fault Fo signing him.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:

seems like complimentary pieces. shakir is quick (not fast), and a strong runner, mini deebo was the comp. this guy is blazing speed and elusive, HR hitter. possession vs big play ability. excited to see how dorsey uses them

Agree.  Shakir & Harty is a nice potential duo in the slot, with both having the ability to also play outside.  
 

Edited March 15, 2023 by SCBills

[HappyDays]

 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Can’t imagine the Bills try a platoon at outside WR…. Stick Harris in the slot and get a good 1B across from Diggs and call it a day at WR.

That is probably the plan.  Needed to fix slot I think they did that here.  I think there is likely another WR coming this UFA.  Also a 1 year prove it with a second year if player performs does not stop that or stop taking WRs early in the draft.

[JGMcD2]

15 minutes ago, Airseven said:

You mean if Dorsey can actually incorporate him into the offense and if Allen can actually hit him in stride.

Ah yes, if Josh Allen can hit him in stride. He hasn’t shown he’s capable of that. 
 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/analysis-josh-allen-led-nfl-in-deep-passing-in-2022/article_7b4afef2-9050-11ed-922c-c3e8a2f6dfc0.html

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Can’t imagine the Bills try a platoon at outside WR…. Stick Harris in the slot and get a good 1B across from Diggs and call it a day at WR.

 

Or get the RB's and TE's involved in the passing game like a competent OC/QB combo would do. No need for a 1B WR. Knock on wood one of those guys doesn't go down. If we build a passing attack to spread the ball around more, we can manage better through any potential injuries that could come up.

[4thandGoal]

2 hours ago, somnus00 said:

McKenzie turns that into a 10 yard completion... or a dropped pass.

you may be right about Mckenzie but we just signed this guy for a lot of money for someone who has a great chance of being hurt.

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

Actually, I take back what I wrote earlier.

 

This is great.  Dorsey will find a way to get him involved.  

 

That has sort of been Dorsey's M.O. since taking over the reigns last year.  He'll most assuredly keep the Happiness Factory that is our current WR corps humming right a long.

 

 

[LEBills]

11 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

lucky hynes is our returner 

I guess we will see if he does both punt and kick returns again this year. Still scarred from the McKenzie punt returner year lol

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

“ we need playmakers”.  “We need speed”. “We need a slot WR”. “Beane neglects offense”. 
 

Bills sign a playmaking slot WR (that can also make contested catches) with blazing speed:  “why’d we pay him so much?”

 

🤦🏻‍♂️

 

Yeah I think most of us saying those things had something else in mind than a guy who had 2 receptions last season and has 4 total TD's in 4 years in the NFL.

 

Our version of "playmaker" is a bit different than this.

[NewEra]

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2022/2/17/22938420/deonte-harty-had-an-ultra-efficient-season
 

people complaining about Pff scores lol

Edited March 15, 2023 by NewEra

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, Unsavory Peterman said:

Loved this guy in college, had some great moments in 21

 

Go to a lot of Assumption Greyhound games in 2018 did ya.  You must live int he Worcester area.  

 

Dude had 751 yards playing for Assumption in his last season there.  LOL   I'll give it to ya, he did post great games against St. Anselm, Bentley, and American International College.  Not much different the year prior where he posted great games against Findley and Merrimack.  

 

It's the Northeast 10 Conference, that I'd never even heard about.  Not exactly the SEC.  Just sayin'.  I hope he had some great moments.  

 

 

[PBF81]

Just now, NewEra said:

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2022/2/17/22938420/deonte-harty-had-an-ultra-efficient-season
 

people complaining about Pff scores lol

 

Ultra efficient ... ROFLMA   

 

You've just gotta love it when those adjectives are the greatness in players.  

 

Please stop ... LOL 

 

 

[Yawning Frog]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   I hope he’s useful and utilized.

   But, I’m starting to sense a pattern that Beane like little fast guys.

    5’6” !?!?

    How about getting Josh a 6’2” receiver who can use his body to block out DBs and fights for balls.

What do you mean. At 5'6" that's all he will be fighting, Is balls.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Yawning Frog

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Yeah I think most of us saying those things had something else in mind than a guy who had 2 receptions last season and has 4 total TD's in 4 years in the NFL.

 

Our version of "playmaker" is a bit different than this.

Yours is a very shallow opinion.  He was injured last season.  The previous season, he was VERY good in several metrics.  Top 5 WR good.  No, he’s not a top 5 WR, not even close, but he can we worth the money we paid him if used properly.

 

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2022/2/17/22938420/deonte-harty-had-an-ultra-efficient-season

[BillsShredder83]

24 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

I'm curious, what do you see that he "brings ot the field?"  Here is his career gamelog;  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HarrDe07/gamelog/

 

I'm guessing it's the kinda thing where you actually have to watch the game.  😁

 

Return man wasn't very high up our needs list given all the other needs.  BTW, he's got a 47.9 rating on PFF, which is piss poor.  While hardly the end-all-to-be-all, their methodology is sound over there.  

 

Right now I see Milano having a busy season.  LOL  Apparently until further notice his new position is OIMOLB.  LOL  

 

Seems like a stupid signing to me.  I mean really, we sign Hines as an outlet, don't use him at all like that, when he's fantastic at it.  Draft Cook for the same reason, don't use him much.  I don't see this guy catching more than 25-30 passes with all of the options that Allen has.  If I had to bet I'd say fewer than 20.  That was hardly the case in NO where they had a roster full of nothing JAG WRs.  

 

Terrible signing, waste of money, and IMO this is Beane's way of trying to recover Hodgins, thinking he's going under the wire to redeem himself.  Sounds just like Beane.  His Draft had better be A+ or he's going to sink himself.  

 

 

 

 

Didnt need to read this far to know youre clueless, but it certainly reinforced it lol please tell me one thing these two have in common other than position

 

ill anxiously await your breath taking knowledge lol

[finn]

Now we need a tall, rangy WR or TE in the draft. 

[Nephilim17]

Good signing. You don't get a 6'4" receiver with track speed and good hands and availability at a discount. Yes, it's a chance, but you've got to take them when you don't have a lot of money but a lot of holes to fill.

 

If he stays healthy, yes, a big if, people will love him here.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Nephilim17

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Ultra efficient ... ROFLMA   

 

You've just gotta love it when those adjectives are the greatness in players.  

 

Please stop ... LOL 

 

 

please stop what?  Using stats?  You can use a 47 Pff rating based on 5 games and 2 targets….. but then real stats are used and “please stop LOL” is your rebuttal.  Great job

[Matt_In_NH]

Lets get handy smurf!

[BearNorth]

Third downs with Hines and Harty going to have some defenses figuring out how to cover these two and Diggs.

[Draconator]

Just now, Matt_In_NH said:

Lets get handy smurf!

Did he date Smurfette?

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Didnt need to read this far to know youre clueless, but it certainly reinforced it lol please tell me one thing these two have in common other than position

 

ill anxiously await your breath taking knowledge lol

I’m just glad I found out more about this poster while he was still a little purple guy.  Ignore now while we remember.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I've literally never heard of this guy before even before the name change not that it means anything but I feel I'm pretty knowledgeable on current players around the league. A concern i have is that he plays in a dome so will he have the same explosion in 30 degree whether or in snowstorms that we tend to have yearly? Plus he's 5'7" 170 lbs.

[LEBills]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2022/2/17/22938420/deonte-harty-had-an-ultra-efficient-season
 

people complaining about Pff scores lol

People may remember when we signed Beasley, his advanced stats with Dallas were great though a much bigger sample size. Seems they are searching for a similar hit with Harty where he can be successful with increased volume. Let’s hope it works out as well again

[Einstein]

Hopefully our incredible training facility (it really is top notch) can fix some of the injury issues he's had.

 

Injury History

 

2019 - Harris missed 2 games with a hamstring injury.

2020 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury and missed 3 games (IR).

2021 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury in Week five’s game vs. Washington and missed 3 games.

2022 - Harris injured toe and missed 12 games (IR).

[MAJBobby]

I would really like to know how many WR in UFA are 6'2 ad run 4.3s?  And could they be had for 3.75M?

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yep. Load up at WR…. Hopefully they’ve seen the light. 

Whatcha think about this signing Scott?

[Punching Bag]

29 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

"The Best Ability is Availability"

Hardy has played in 14, 9, 13, and 4 games

Same stretch McKenzie has played in 15, 16, 15, and 15 games.

 

If the Bills intended to cut McKenzie this spring, it's surprising to me that they haven't already done it so he could be on the market during the first burst of FA.  That would be the usual courtesy to a guy who has gone hard for them: give him the maximum chance to get out there, but perhaps "things have changed"

 

Hardy has been most active as a KR/PR

 

 

McKenzie has not only played in a lot of games he made an impact in practices emulating opposing players and he even played defense one game when Bills were trying to rest DBs.  His play won us a playoff game.

I do not understand this at all. Bills have KR/PR and this is far too much money for him despite "market".  Deshaun Watson was paid far more than market but this does not make it a good deal.  Bills should have learned last year that they may need more money than they planned with unexpected injuries.

[MrEpsYtown]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I would really like to know how many WR in UFA are 6'2 ad run 4.3s?  And could they be had for 3.75M?

 

It's DJ Chark only. But he will be more than 3.75 for sure. 

 

And Robbie Anderson. Who is still probably more than 3.75. 

 

Breshad Perriman maybe? 

Edited March 15, 2023 by MrEpsYtown

[Spiderweb]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Hopefully our incredible training facility (it really is top notch) can fix some of the injury issues he's had.

 

Injury History

 

2019 - Harris missed 2 games with a hamstring injury.

2020 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury and missed 3 games (IR).

2021 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury in Week five’s game vs. Washington and missed 3 games.

2022 - Harris injured toe and missed 12 games (IR).

Jeez...  This is not a good look at all! very curious signing indeed... First blush: Poor.