Possible McKenzie Replacement Bills sign Deonte Harty (formally Deonte Harris)

[MAJBobby]

Just now, McBean said:

So far Beanes “thing” has been handing out massive contracts to players who don’t deserve them. Also, he loves drafting duds as well.

 

Call me a little skeptic of allowing Beane to do his “thing.”

So 3.7M is massive?  LOL ok 

[wppete]

12 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I get what people say about potential and granted I wouldn't know if he is any good even if I watched Saints but still, giving $5M guaranteed to a guy who has grand total of 793 receiving yards in 4 seasons (!) is really confusing to me.

 

I guess we'll see.

 

I do expect something really big happens in the next 36 or so hours.

The guy is 5’6 170lbs. The size of a 6th grader. And he has injury history. Awful signing by Beane at this $$$$. Miami and the Jets are making real moves. 

[No_Matter_What]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Yet you go after this signing over 5M but probably loved the 50M RT to play LT right?  See how that is a bit hypocritical?

Now I am completely lost. You are either confusing me with someone or just trying to be jerk from no reason at all.

 

I didn't express any opinion on that KC signing. I guess I find it stupid what they did, but I don't care that much about Chiefs. I care about Bills. I support almost everything what they do, and I really don't know why you feel the need to attack me personally for a little random critical hot take.

 

But whatever, you do you.

[JGMcD2]

Just now, McBean said:

So far Beanes “thing” has been handing out massive contracts to players who don’t deserve them. Also, he loves drafting duds as well.

 

Call me a little skeptic of allowing Beane to do his “thing.”

And some how that equals having the 2nd most wins in the league since 2018 (regular season and playoffs combined) 
 

Whatever it is, keep it going. 

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

Who's kidding who here? There are no more "Under the radar guys" in the NFL! This is not 1967. Every NFL players decent catches, TD's, impact plays are covered ad-nauseam across literally hundreds of networks, podcasts, FB, Instagram, YouTube, etc. etc. Donte Hardy/Harris doesn't ring many bells, the same way most fringe players don't get much attention, by not doing that much except a few flash plays.... I guess this truly will be the year when Beane digs through the NFL dumpsters for some saviors, while the Dolphins and Jet's are shopping on 5th Avenue. If this continues I'm afraid It'll be reflected in the standings come next January.         

 

I bet you couldn't wait to use that line.  I will give you credit, it's pretty good.

 

Now let's talk about your "Under the radar guys" comment.

He is not that.  Spotrac puts a "Market Value" on certain players.  Either past stars or younger players that will have bigger potential.

I looked at Harty a month ago when I perused the Saints UFA list.  I did that because of the Saints horrible cap workings every year.

They are always letting guys go that they can't keep.

His "market value" from Spotrac is $8M per year.  "Hardly a Harty" under the radar endorsement.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/deonte-harty-29629/market-value/

 

Facts matter, but again I did get a snicker from your bolded line!

Edited March 15, 2023 by ColoradoBills

[Kmart128]

1 minute ago, McBean said:

So far Beanes “thing” has been handing out massive contracts to players who don’t deserve them. Also, he loves drafting duds as well.

 

Call me a little skeptic of allowing Beane to do his “thing.”

 

Yeah people said thing about Poyer signing...

[MAJBobby]

 

[Bray Wyatt]

No one is asking the real question, why he change his name??? What is he hiding?????

[NoSaint]

If nothing else, I’m glad to have someone new to yell at instead of mckenzie. 
 

i think similar to him is the floor, but he has some upside from there that McKenzie hasn’t been able to capture. 

[Nextmanup]

Whats with little receivers?

 

How about a 6'3" big strong and FAST receiver instead?

 

 

[wppete]

Just now, Bray Wyatt said:

No one is asking the real question, why he change his name??? What is he hiding?????

Great questions Adult men changing their name is very strange and sketchy. 

[BillsShredder83]

58 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Just because you don’t know him doesn’t mean he’s not good.

 

I love what he brings to the field. He’s a super charged Dirty and is a good return man.  It might be more expensive than I thought we’d pay, but he’s got juice.

see he made pro bowl as a returner, have to assume thats as punt returner? think he starts? (cant remember if hines was just KR or PR too?)

[ColoradoBills]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

 

I just replied earlier that I wanted to see the return fumbles vs. offensive play fumbles.

Thank you VERY much!

[Bray Wyatt]

Just now, wppete said:

Great questions Adult men changing their name is very strange and sketchy. 

And now he is moving too!

[LEBills]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

That’s a lot of fumbles if he is our Punt Returner 😬

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Again, same as I just responded to MAJBobby. I am not trying to find anything. I am pretty sure that I am one of the biggest Beane and McD supporters on this board. I have all silly whiners and trolls blocked. I mention guarantees since cap space is my hobby (as you can see from my posting history) and on the first glance this looks like a questionable signing to me. I think I am allowed to have critical hot take from time to time

 

Peace.

 

Harty/Harris had a better year than McKenzie has ever had in 2021 with nobodies throwing him the ball.  I am guessing they believe he has more to offer than what they have gotten out of him and in an offense like the Bills he will get the chance to show it. Likely an analytics based signing.  He also was 6th in the NFL in separation per route run in 2021 only behind marquee elite players.  Bills are banking on that to come out more with them.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Big Turk

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

No one is asking the real question, why he change his name??? What is he hiding?????

 

Just now, wppete said:

Great questions Adult men changing their name is very strange and sketchy. 

Nothing sketchy here at all. He changed his name to the last name of his stepfather, the man who actually raised him. 

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Has better hands than McKenzie and looks like a smoother, more fluid mover.  He is tiny, though.

He is tiny.  He’s so electric though.  Not many slots have the juice to take a 5 yard slant the distance.  He does.  
 

We paid him more than I thought he’d get paid but mainly because he was out of sight and mind last year as he missed the seasons with turf toe.  Every time I’ve watched him play, he impressed me and left me thinking I’d like this guy on the Bills.
 

he’s a high risk (due to size), high reward (due to speed) player who’s contract won’t hurt us going forward (if he doesn’t work out).  
 

if he hits his incentives and makes the full amount…..then he produced.

[Lost]

Yo WTF, this dude is 5'6".  and we're gonna pay him 13.5 Million?!   Bad move Beane

[Bruffalo]

This is a really interesting signing.  A lot of upside potential, returning abilities, etc... 

 

He hasn't put it all together on the field though. Not a lot of targets in any given season, he's also smaller than McKenzie. 

 

It's a bit of a lottery ticket, and it's a $5 ticket instead of a $1 scratcher, but I don't hate it. 

[balln]

42 minutes ago, Process said:

Tyreek Hill is short. This guy is 4 inches shorter. 

If you think tyreke is 5 10… 

[TC in St. Louis]

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-deonte-harris

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

 

Nothing sketchy here at all. He changed his name to the last name of his stepfather, the man who actually raised him. 

 

My friend of 40 years just had his adult stepson do the same thing.  It was an honor that brought my buddy to tears.

[Big Turk]

Just now, Bruffalo said:

This is a really interesting signing.  A lot of upside potential, returning abilities, etc... 

 

He hasn't put it all together on the field though. Not a lot of targets in any given season, he's also smaller than McKenzie. 

 

It's a bit of a lottery ticket, and it's a $5 ticket instead of a $1 scratcher, but I don't hate it. 

 

He had a better year than McKenzie has ever had in 2021 with far worse QBs throwing him the ball.

[Buffalo Boy]

37 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Not trying to be a jerk, so please don't take it that way...but who is out there and available who fits that description? 

 

Deandre Hopkins? OBJ also does those things and he is 5'11". 

Don’t know.

But, there has to be some project guy out there who’s on par with Harty who is worth this contract.

My bigger point was, Josh isn’t the most accurate passer nor is he a rhythm passer ( from what we’ve seen) .  Giving him a guy even smaller that McKenzie and Hines just doesn’t strike me as a winning strategy 

[Bray Wyatt]

3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

 

Nothing sketchy here at all. He changed his name to the last name of his stepfather, the man who actually raised him. 

 

Was a joke my friend 👍

[Success]

I don't really understand the criticism - we didn't really have field-stretching speed in the WR corps.  Now we do.

 

[finn]

1 hour ago, somnus00 said:

McKenzie turns that into a 10 yard completion... or a dropped pass.

....or a fumble. Or he'll catch it and stay inbounds so the clock runs out. Or he'll step out of bounds in the end zone and watch the ensuing interception  and return as a passive bystander.

 

It won't take much for Harty to be an improvement. 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

They need to get bigger, stronger and tougher. Their AFCE rivals are making real moves, signing junior high school-sized players probably won’t cut it. Replacing Lil Dirty with a Littler Dirty seems counter-productive, seeing as he just didn’t work here. What do I know though? 

Edited March 15, 2023 by PauleeeWalnuts

[Bigvinny]

Reminds me of Darren Sproles who was also 5' 6". Very fast,  hard to tackle.

[OldTimer1960]

Just now, NewEra said:

He is tiny.  He’s so electric though.  Not many slots have the juice to take a 5 yard slant the distance.  He does.  
 

We paid him more than I thought he’d get paid but mainly because he was out of sight and mind last year as he missed the seasons with turf toe.  Every time I’ve watched him play, he impressed me and left me thinking I’d like this guy on the Bills.
 

he’s a high risk (due to size), high reward (due to speed) player who’s contract won’t hurt us going forward (if he doesn’t work out).  
 

if he hits his incentives and makes the full amount…..then he produced.

I was impressed by the videos that I found of him.  Instant acceleration.  
 

I would guess that this takes small slot-only receivers like Josh Downs, Tank Dell and maybe Zay Flowers out of play in the draft.  Would still be nice to get someone to push Gabe Davis for snaps, but I think OL, S and LB are top priorities now pending other moves.

[ddaryl]

4 minutes ago, Lost said:

Yo WTF, this dude is 5'6".  and we're gonna pay him 13.5 Million?!   Bad move Beane

 

 

The only thing that is guarenteed is $5 million. If he hits on the incentives then that deal, fully paid is a steal

[Bigvinny]

Just now, PauleeeWalnuts said:

They need to get bigger, stronger and tougher. Their AFCE rivals are making real moves, signing junior high school- sized players probably won’t cut it. Replacing Lil Dirty with a Littler Dirty seems counter-productive, seeing he just didn’t work here. What do I know though? 

Other AFC East teams aren't paying their franchise QB 30 mil. Miami has 3 draft picks, this is their draft.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Don’t know.

But, there has to be some project guy out there who’s on par with Harty who is worth this contract.

My bigger point was, Josh isn’t the most accurate passer nor is he a rhythm passer ( from what we’ve seen) .  Giving him a guy even smaller that McKenzie and Hines just doesn’t strike me as a winning strategy 

 

There are times when Josh is...kind of depends on how quickly he needs to make guys miss from being under pressure in games.

[Buffalo Boy]

40 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

They've been one of the most prolific offenses without that type of guy, so... What's the big deal?

   It would be nice for Josh to not have to run around like a chicken with his head cut off ever other play trying to find little guys who are working to get open.

   Having a big, SUREHANDED guy go up and get it creating faith in JA that he can…..What is not to like about that?

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

He had a better year than McKenzie has ever had in 2021 with far worse QBs throwing him the ball.

Not disagreeing, just saying the pay is a bit high for what that player is right now. I like it though, it's still a lower risk/high reward. 

[Lost]

1 minute ago, Success said:

I don't really understand the criticism - we didn't really have field-stretching speed in the WR corps.  Now we do.

 

 

I want WR stretching speed at wr2.  Not a 5'6 slot guy that we already have a room full of.  

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Don’t know.

But, there has to be some project guy out there who’s on par with Harty who is worth this contract.

My bigger point was, Josh isn’t the most accurate passer nor is he a rhythm passer ( from what we’ve seen) .  Giving him a guy even smaller that McKenzie and Hines just doesn’t strike me as a winning strategy 

 

100% with you. They need a guy who makes contested catches. To me, that is OBJ or Hopkins. A guy like DJ Chark is big and fast but really doesn't do those things. 

[Captain Hindsight]

Beasley with speed. I like it 

[Buffalo Boy]

40 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Because when you get insane separation you get an uncontested catch. 

And, this guy has demonstrated that? Legit question, I don’t know a thing about him.