Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: McGovern is only a 4M cap hit this year. Matakevich is 1.6M. Not sure about Martin. Cam and Ike likely don't affect the cap much once we get to the top 51. With those numbers, assuming $2M for Martin, and no Cam, it puts the Bills at $16.9M cap space. Not sure how they squeeze much more than vet minimums at LB, S, WR, Backup QB, possibly RB with that much space, unless pulling the Dawkins/Diggs/Tre White restructures, McKenzie release, D.Jones extension. Edited March 14, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Everybody BUT the Jets see what is going on here Sign Kumerow and trade him to the Jets for Elijah Moore and Breece Hall 😆 Edited March 14, 2023 by The Jokeman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: McGovern is only a 4M cap hit this year. Matakevich is 1.6M. Not sure about Martin. Cam and Ike likely don't affect the cap much once we get to the top 51. Accurate Connor is around 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just noticed Miami signed David Long 2-11M……. RAWR!!! That’s a helluva good deal for Miami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Manther said: All good points, very interesting and the Pats ** have cap space to burn, I think. They probably want the comp pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 YEP BEND THAT KNEE JETS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: HENCE THE +/- $3M. And yes, I know Over the Cap exists, as does Spotrac. Regardless, I guess the point I was trying to make is what other levers do the Bills have? Cutting McKenzie would be $2.6M saved, Bills could restructure Dawkins and Diggs for $6M apiece, and trading Oliver $10.2M (assuming all that money is put on the next team because it's a guaranteed 5th year option), extending DaQuan Jones could drop you a couple million. I don't think I'm touching Dawkins or Diggs, but if I'm Beane I am absolutely doing the following: -Extend Daquan Jones. Good player. We have no DT's under contract for next year. -Trade Ed Oliver. Good player. Not worth 10M to us next year and we're not paying him if he blows up. -Cut McKenzie. We comitted to Hines. His role should be KR/PR/RB3/Gadget.. he takes over the McKenzie role in the offense. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I liked him as a sleeper here. He has made some clutch plays for Dallas. I like what the Texans are doing. As long as they don’t go all stupid and trade Tunsil, it is starting to shape up as a good place for a young QB and I really like the Ryans hire. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So after Friday, he's owed 2 yrs/ 18.5M, all not gauranteed YR1: 6.6 YR2: 11.8 He's a really good candidate to get for a mid round pick and possibly give him an additional year and guarantee some yr1 money. 6.6 is also not that much to restructure and give him some void years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: HENCE THE +/- $3M. And yes, I know Over the Cap exists, as does Spotrac. Regardless, I guess the point I was trying to make is what other levers do the Bills have? Cutting McKenzie would be $2.6M saved, Bills could restructure Dawkins and Diggs for $6M apiece, and trading Oliver $10.2M (assuming all that money is put on the next team because it's a guaranteed 5th year option), extending DaQuan Jones could drop you a couple million. My understanding is that you are correct. All of Oliver's money is base salary. The team trading for a player picks up all of the base salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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That's No Moon Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: So after Friday, he's owed 2 yrs/ 18.5M, all not gauranteed YR1: 6.6 YR2: 11.8 He's a really good candidate to get for a mid round pick and possibly give him an additional year and guarantee some yr1 money. 6.6 is also not that much to restructure and give him some void years. I'd love some Hunter Renfrow 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don't think I'm touching Dawkins or Diggs, but if I'm Beane I am absolutely doing the following: -Extend Daquan Jones. Good player. We have no DT's under contract for next year. -Trade Ed Oliver. Good player. Not worth 10M to us next year and we're not paying him if he blows up. -Cut McKenzie. We comitted to Hines. His role should be KR/PR/RB3/Gadget.. he takes over the McKenzie role in the offense. At this point ditching Oliver is almost a necessity if Beane doesn't kick any more money down the road. Unless you're going vet minimum everywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: YEP BEND THAT KNEE JETS Does he mean, like, butt stuff? 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dunkirk Donski Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: These guys would've been all-pro under Rob Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I liked him as a sleeper here. He has made some clutch plays for Dallas. I like what the Texans are doing. As long as they don’t go all stupid and trade Tunsil, it is starting to shape up as a good place for a young QB and I really like the Ryans hire. Looks like they came to their senses You next Buffalo Bill just watch https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/all-53-s-myles-hartsfield-profile-stat-projections-expected-role Edited March 14, 2023 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Airseven Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: At this point ditching Oliver is almost a necessity if Beane doesn't kick any more money down the road. Unless you're going vet minimum everywhere else. Beane does like to fill nearly half the roster with 1-year vet minimums. As for Oliver, who's replacing him as starter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manther Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don't think I'm touching Dawkins or Diggs, but if I'm Beane I am absolutely doing the following: -Extend Daquan Jones. Good player. We have no DT's under contract for next year. -Trade Ed Oliver. Good player. Not worth 10M to us next year and we're not paying him if he blows up. -Cut McKenzie. We comitted to Hines. His role should be KR/PR/RB3/Gadget.. he takes over the McKenzie role in the offense. I like that. I would be fine extending Dawkins if we need the money. I would not touch Diggs contract under any circumstances. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeF Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Through a spiritual medium the Jets have contacted the ghosts of Paul Hornung and Max McGee...signings are imminent. Will be paid in Meadcoin which can be used for purchases in the afterlife. Rodgers said to be very impressed with the Jets effort here. Edited March 14, 2023 by JoeF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Interesting that Poyers market is shaping up like Beasleys did last year..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Maybe it's that he's asking for to much money and term and is old 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Airseven said: Beane does like to fill nearly half the roster with 1-year vet minimums. As for Oliver, who's replacing him as starter? D'Quan or nobody. He is a non impact, undersized, rotational player and we have plenty of players in that rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeF Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Maybe it's that he's asking for to much money and term and is old ...and really beaten to hell....God bless him. Love him. When I think about Jordan now, i think about this scene from Moneyball.. Edited March 14, 2023 by JoeF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Airseven said: Beane does like to fill nearly half the roster with 1-year vet minimums. As for Oliver, who's replacing him as starter? More importantly, who is replacing as the target for irrational and emotional complaints? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Interesting that Poyers market is shaping up like Beasleys did last year..... a little early to be saying that. Cincy all of a sudden needs safeties … 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Vader Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Day 1 Word of the Day was LBers and IOL Day 2 so far shaping up to be WR day The Raiders signed the guy responsible for the throwback to Chandler Jones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Unsavory Peterman said: These guys would've been all-pro under Rob Ryan. Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde weren’t every down starters until they got to Buffalo. Milano is a 4th round pick. Josh Norman signed with Washington and fell off a cliff. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, JoeF said: ...and really beaten to hell....God bless him. Love him. Yea... Poyer was a good soldier last year and got beat up/played through injury, but it took it's toll just as he starts showing his age. On the flipside, Buffalo helped make him who he is, and paid him more than he likely ever makes if he doesn't land in McDermott's Defense next to Micah Hyde. It was a win/win for both sides, but it's time to move on, and I'm sure he's frustrated that last year's tape is surely being used against him in negotiations. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: A source close to Poyer said he has received multiple offers but it's waiting to hear back from his financial advisor on the tax ramifications. 😁 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: The Raiders signed the guy responsible for the throwback to Chandler Jones. Backup for Garrrrappolol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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