TBBills Fan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 There's a lot to unpack about that meek mil Kraft connection lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I mean - the Ravens hate the Pats, don't they? Is there any way they'd make that trade? It would be kind of a drag to have 4 of the top 10 QB's in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: what the actual ***** lamar That's something I never thought I would read 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, OZBILLS said: He's off to the Patriots, isn't he? Honestly who cares if he does. He's a cap killer, a WR killer, draft resource killer, and would require a team to have a mini rebuild around him to get the right personnel. Wherever he goes there's going to be a % of his teammates he needs to earn respect from. Dude quit on his team in the playoffs last year, players talk in a small league. As far as NE, I'd love it I'd they tried to land him. Beli is used to having statues in the pocket. I don't think it's a given he'd know how to use him. Not to mention we're the team who put the blue print out on him. Bill Obrien is hardly a qb whisperer lol I don't see Lamar playing this year for balt. He'll be another year older, all it takes is losing half a step. So a bad team would be acquiring a 27yr old mobile qb, and need to get the right personnel around him (with no draft capital or significant cap room). Take a year or 2 to get the right pieces around him. What an absolute nightmare of a situation. There's just too much damn baggage here. If he couldn't thrive w/ Harborough and an OC and personnel catered to him, he's going to go where? ATL, and thrive? He'll do well selling tickets and putting arses in seats, but he doesn't scare me. Then again, I've never been high on the guy and I think he's top tier dumbbbbb so I'm not exactly an unbiased view here either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Yeah, Kraft saying it's up to Belichick was his nice way of telling Meek "no ***** way" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: The problem is he isnt negotiating. He has a single demand, take it or leave it. He's gonna have quite the shocked pikachu face when the NFL decides "leave it". Your mouth to G@ds ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I don’t think that reported text was meek mills, I believe this is from “Meloveulongtime Mills”. Kraft had his contacts confused 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract. They paid Brady peanuts. Oh what Guzzelle will say if they pay lLamar all that after Boning Brady all those years. That along with setting the Patriots back to the Stone Age after a year or two would be awesome. Brady henpecked even after a divorce-epic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 NFL about to send out a memo about Philadelphia man, Meek Mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: NFL about to send out a memo about Philadelphia man, Meek Mill. Exactly. For a guy that doesn't have an agent Lamar sure as heck has a lot of agents. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Mango said: I never thought I would say this, but I think that Lamar could more or less negotiate himself out of the league. I’ve been saying the same thing, especially if he sits next season. His career would probably be over and he would be shadow-banned by owners. This isn’t looking good at all. Most people keep acting like he’ll eventually get what he wants and I’m not sure why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Governor said: I’ve been saying the same thing, especially if he sits next season. His career would probably be over and he would be shadow-banned by owners. This isn’t looking good at all. Most people keep acting like he’ll eventually get what he wants and I’m not sure why. Who gets signed first, Carson Wentz or Lamar Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract. They paid Brady peanuts. Sure they will just not above the table. Teflon™ Br*dy got money under table including his avocado supplements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Let Lamar sit - then he’ll learn. It’s not his league. If he had won a SB & played every game of a season - then he might make demands, but he is nowhere close. Bye-bye Greedy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mango said: Who gets signed first, Carson Wentz or Lamar Jackson? There’s multiple issues now. Lamar has to find the solution to this problem: How do I accept an offer to be the 8th or 9th highest paid QB without looking like a total idiot? I don’t think he can. He so dug in and the embarrassment would be out of this world. I suspect he’s too embarrassed and shamed to even face the Ravens at this point. Edited March 28, 2023 by Governor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Governor said: There’s multiple issues now. Lamar has to find the solution to this problem: How do I accept an offer to be the 8th or 9th highest paid QB without looking like a total idiot? I don’t think he can. He so far dug in and the embarrassment would be out of this world. I think he'll eventually accept less, but only if it comes from someone other than the Ravens. He'll try and pass it off as it wasn't about the money it was about respect. Media talking heads will rejoice saying he showed great courage in his victory against the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: Maybe he has to do what Browns QB did - assault women and get a year off paid. Watson had an agent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Could the Ravens do a 1 day/ $1 contract to get around that? Seems like there are some creative solutions here. Its so weird to handcuff a team to their own detriment, when the tag was a measure that was supposed to give teams leverage. If Balt, Team X, and Lamar are all on the same page about a deal, why would the NFL split hairs and block it? Weird Only 95 cents guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Sure they will just not above the table. Teflon™ Br*dy got money under table including his avocado supplements. Lamar is too dumb and spiteful for that. Say 2 seasons go well, but year 3 sucks. Lamar hates BB, BB equally hates a low iq ball player. Lamars knees are tore up, and his only offer is $6m/yr as a backup in NE now, or somewhere else...... Anybody think hes gunna stay quiet about their dirty lil secret? Lamar would be tweeting that from his locker before he can clear it out. and the way NE disposes of their used up players, is literally as cold as taking out the trash. Lamars not the guy to be making devil pacts with, noooooope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Governor said: Most people keep acting like he’ll eventually get what he wants and I’m not sure why. I heard Mike Florio and Chris Simms make this point. The people in the media egging him on are much worse than the people telling him to stop being stupid. It's like a bystander at a high roller table cheering on as some idiot makes big stupid bet after big stupid bet. It's fun watching someone bet it all on red when it isn't your money to lose. When the high roller inevitably loses and ends up broke, the bystander will just sheepishly walk on over to the next table. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I heard Mike Florio and Chris Simms make this point. The people in the media egging him on are much worse than the people telling him to stop being stupid. It's like a bystander at a high roller table cheering on as some idiot makes big stupid bet after big stupid bet. It's fun watching someone bet it all on red when it isn't your money to lose. When the high roller inevitably loses and ends up broke, the bystander will just sheepishly walk on over to the next table. That's a good point. I wonder who he surrounds himself with as there seems nobody in his inner circle that will give him some tough love and tell him why he needs an agent now more than ever. Growing up without a father is tough as mine would've hit me beside the head and say hire a darn agent you idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffaloFan68 said: Let Lamar sit - then he’ll learn. It’s not his league. If he had won a SB & played every game of a season - then he might make demands, but he is nowhere close. Bye-bye Greedy clown take. What has Watson ever won? Cousins? But Lamar should just shut up and take what he’s offered right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: clown take. What has Watson ever won? Cousins? But Lamar should just shut up and take what he’s offered right? This. No reason he shouldn't be at or very the top of the QB salary heap. NFL economics101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Behindenemylines said: I don’t think that reported text was meek mills, I believe this is from “Meloveulongtime Mills”. Kraft had his contacts confused Wait...so some random guy with the handle “Meloveulongtime Mills” has Kraft's cell number? Wow. EDIT: oh, wait...this was a joke...I get it now [I'm a little slow]. Edited March 28, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaBills Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 What I do is offer him a 5 year $250 million dollar contract with $150 mil guaranteed or 5 year $150 mil and all is guaranteed. That way he gets the option of all guaranteed or some. I no this won't happen and he would not accept the second option, but his demands and reasons are not realistic based on injuries the last 2 seasons. Also I get tired of former players stating that Patrick and Josh ruined it for the others. I say that Minnesota with Cousins and the Browns with Watson are who cause this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: This. No reason he shouldn't be at or very the top of the QB salary heap. NFL economics101 He should. But just not in a fully guaranteed contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract. They paid Brady peanuts. lol so true! But let’s be honest it’s Kraft who would say No it’s real money and won’t agree to that. Add to it LamR injury history and any team be dumb give up 2 1st and all that guarantee money for someone that’s game is based mostly on his legs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Usually a player (of Lamar Jackson's caliber) can look towards the Top 5 contracts at his position as the rough parameters of a deal. But the NFL is in a very unique place when it comes to Quarterback contracts right now. Especially when it comes to the guaranteed money. Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen would normally be a standard benchmark, mostly due to age and talent. But both of them signed extremely team-friendly deals without much long-term money guaranteed. Deshaun Watson is considered an outlier, because he DID get a fully guaranteed contract despite off-field concerns. Teams are trying to make a point not to make his deal the norm. Russell Wilson signed the big contract and then totally busted, which acts as a warning against giving out a fully guaranteed contract. Then you have Jackson himself, who has been dealing with injuries the last two seasons. His style of play is a long-term concern. Whether he can succeed outside Greg Roman's unique offensive scheme is a concern. It's totally understandable why teams are reluctant to give him what he wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The Lamar stuff is so confusing. He bet on himself and lost and then doubled down by not getting an Agent so the restricted free agency period essentially is a bust. So now his best offer is going to be the offer sitting on the table that the Ravens are giving him. Just crazy stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Pretty straight forward. His $$$ "demands" are shooting himself in the foot. He could and should be sitting on a $20M Signing Bonus, and ~$150 guaranteed contract already, enjoying his offseason in South Florida. But I am surprised the Atlanta Falcons haven't jumped on this yet. They have the cash, picks, and motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 No surprise and what most of us thought from the beginning. The question is, what do the owners do to prevent a Browns (and to a lesser extent Vikings) type panic move in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Doc said: No surprise and what most of us thought from the beginning. The question is, what do the owners do to prevent a Browns (and to a lesser extent Vikings) type panic move in the future? I dont think they should. If one team wants to make a huge mistake, let them. It'll just be up to the other teams to be smarter and not do the same thing. If players see the one bad move as a precedent, that's on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 If another team outbids the Ravens by a lot let him go and take the 1st rd picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, ALF said: If another team outbids the Ravens by a lot let him go and take the 1st rd picks. No one is/will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, PaBills said: What I do is offer him a 5 year $250 million dollar contract with $150 mil guaranteed or 5 year $150 mil and all is guaranteed. That way he gets the option of all guaranteed or some. I no this won't happen and he would not accept the second option, but his demands and reasons are not realistic based on injuries the last 2 seasons. Also I get tired of former players stating that Patrick and Josh ruined it for the others. I say that Minnesota with Cousins and the Browns with Watson are who cause this problem. Cousins IMO was not an issue. it was a three year contact and he showed that he was available just about every game unlike Jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Cousins IMO was not an issue. it was a three year contact and he showed that he was available just about every game unlike Jackson. Exactly. Furthermore, it was for a lower amount because it was fully guaranteed. He took less than market value, fully guaranteed. Kirk signed 3/$84M, which gave him $28M/year. At the same time most other franchise QBs were making ~$32-35M/yr. There has to be a trade off. Lamar wants to have his money and eat it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, PaBills said: What I do is offer him a 5 year $250 million dollar contract with $150 mil guaranteed or 5 year $150 mil and all is guaranteed. That way he gets the option of all guaranteed or some. I no this won't happen and he would not accept the second option, but his demands and reasons are not realistic based on injuries the last 2 seasons. Also I get tired of former players stating that Patrick and Josh ruined it for the others. I say that Minnesota with Cousins and the Browns with Watson are who cause this problem. Why in god's name would he not take the former? He'd be playing for 50 million a year in your first option and 30 million a year in your second option with the exact same amount of guaranteed money. If it was a shorter term deal (3 years, 150 million guaranteed) that would make a lot more sense. I'm not sure Lamar would agree to that though. Edited March 29, 2023 by Doc Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Latest offer: "Lamar, you can wear '0'." * EDIT: Dear Mr. Jackson, Please consider playing for us. You can be '00'. Your pal, Bill Belichick Edited March 29, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I really do feel like Lamar is going to screw himself out of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I really do feel like this is a Jedeveon Clowney type of situation. He’s coming across as a total basket case. Nobody will pay him what he seeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Lamar is a pretty good quarterback, who wins regular season football games and is very dangerous with his legs. I don't understand how Bulldog and other pundits/fans around the country are so baffled that teams aren't lining up to offer their firstborns for him, or that the Ravens won't just hand over a fully guaranteed version of the Allen contract. He has spent the last snaps of his team's season injured and unable to play for three consecutive years. Despite playing 15, 12, 12 games the last three seasons, none of them had more than 3000 passing yards. In his last 24 games, he has 33 passing touchdowns and 5 rushing touchdowns. He has done nothing of note in the NFL playoffs. He is a lot better than what many teams have, for sure. Those teams are right to wonder if they should give up a trade haul and contract commensurate with a passer who can play full seasons deep into playoff runs and compete with Mahomes, Allen and Burrow. They act like it's unconscionable, and hint at nefarious undertones, because this is the kind of people they are. But it's really pretty simple. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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