Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 This is a nightmare for the Ravens. No team is going to trade for him, he won't accept a contract that isn't 5-years and $250M and he probably will sit out half the season. Again I wonder if they could have locked him up right after the Bills gave Josh his new contract and avoided all this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchConnection Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, Doc said: This is a nightmare for the Ravens. No team is going to trade for him, he won't accept a contract that isn't 5-years and $250M and he probably will sit out half the season. Again I wonder if they could have locked him up right after the Bills gave Josh his new contract and avoided all this? They tried and he turned down a contract that was bigger than Josh's. He "bet on himself." And as soon as Deshawn Watson got that huge deal from Mr. Truckstop, Lamar and his mom have been fixated on getting more than that. The strategy really doesn't go much deeper than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: They tried and he turned down a contract that was bigger than Josh's. He "bet on himself." And as soon as Deshawn Watson got that huge deal from Mr. Truckstop, Lamar and his mom have been fixated on getting more than that. The strategy really doesn't go much deeper than that. I didn't hear about that part. I guess the Ravens tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I’m starting to think no other team gives up 2 first round picks and $200 million plus guaranteed for Lamar. He either is back with Baltimore or he sits out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: They tried and he turned down a contract that was bigger than Josh's. He "bet on himself." And as soon as Deshawn Watson got that huge deal from Mr. Truckstop, Lamar and his mom have been fixated on getting more than that. The strategy really doesn't go much deeper than that. Agreed. This is all on Lamar imo and his idiotic move to not have a agent and his momma as his advisor. An analyst brought up a good point yesterday, think about how many millions Lamar has already cost himself the last few years by going the route he is going? He can never get that money back as it's in the past now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchConnection Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, wppete said: I’m starting to think no other team gives up 2 first round picks and $200 million plus guaranteed for Lamar. He either is back with Baltimore or he sits out. We really have no way of knowing what is going on. There is no agent to leak things to Shefty. Maybe Lamar will throw us all a bone with a cryptic tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 An agent wouldn't have changed anything and would likely have quit on them. They want a fully guaranteed contract for $50M/year. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchConnection Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Agreed. This is all on Lamar imo and his idiotic move to not have a agent and his momma as his advisor. An analyst brought up a good point yesterday, think about how many millions Lamar has already cost himself the last few years by going the route he is going? He can never get that money back as it's in the past now And NFL agents only get 3%. It's not like with entertainment agents where they get a 10%-15% cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, FrenchConnection said: And NFL agents only get 3%. It's not like with entertainment agents where they get a 10%-15% cut. And the percentage is negotiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Doc said: And the percentage is negotiable. and the percentage is made back fairly quickly by larger named athletes due to them finding sponsorship deals. even mid-level guys pay beyond 3% knowing they'll get sponsorship and promotional gigs found by their agents to offset the %%. this is why you hire someone who is a professional to do professional things. not your mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, boyst said: and the percentage is made back fairly quickly by larger named athletes due to them finding sponsorship deals. even mid-level guys pay beyond 3% knowing they'll get sponsorship and promotional gigs found by their agents to offset the %%. this is why you hire someone who is a professional to do professional things. not your mom. Yeah but they don't care. Once Watson got that deal, that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Does anyone know who is ‘advising’ Lamar as he doesn’t have an agent? Is it possible his ‘advisers’ are misleading him? Sure looks like it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah but they don't care. Once Watson got that deal, that was it. i don't blame watson for the deal. he did exactly what he should have - got as much as he possibly can. the browns did what they thought was fair and reasonable. the rest of the world realized it was stupid and now everyone is not just disappointed the business of the nfl is like this but that they are/were in denial that it is such a ruthless business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, boyst said: i don't blame watson for the deal. he did exactly what he should have - got as much as he possibly can. the browns did what they thought was fair and reasonable. the rest of the world realized it was stupid and now everyone is not just disappointed the business of the nfl is like this but that they are/were in denial that it is such a ruthless business. I don't blame Lamar for asking for as much as he can get but there comes a point when you're just costing yourself far more money. He's never going to recoup what he's lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, wppete said: Does anyone know who is ‘advising’ Lamar as he doesn’t have an agent? Is it possible his ‘advisers’ are misleading him? Sure looks like it right now. His mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 54 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: They tried and he turned down a contract that was bigger than Josh's. He "bet on himself." And as soon as Deshawn Watson got that huge deal from Mr. Truckstop, Lamar and his mom have been fixated on getting more than that. The strategy really doesn't go much deeper than that. This has been rumored and/or leaked by those around the Ravens but never confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 24 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't blame Lamar for asking for as much as he can get but there comes a point when you're just costing yourself far more money. He's never going to recoup what he's lost. part of me, the one that likes to see the world burn, wants to see him get what he asked for then fall on his face. he would feel validated that he got what he asked for but never realize how much he actually lost. Lamar Jackson is the prototypical Zoomer generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 35 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: This has been rumored and/or leaked by those around the Ravens but never confirmed. Who would confirm it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2023 at 9:29 AM, wppete said: I’m starting to think no other team gives up 2 first round picks and $200 million plus guaranteed for Lamar. He either is back with Baltimore or he sits out. starting to? It was never going to happen. Even without the picks it wasn’t going to happen. He is not good enough for that deal. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2023 at 10:04 AM, Doc said: I don't blame Lamar for asking for as much as he can get but there comes a point when you're just costing yourself far more money. He's never going to recoup what he's lost. He hasn’t lost anything yet. Long way to go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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