H2o Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) It trips me out how these "analysts" and the sports media crowd keeps trying to say, "this team should trade for Lamar. No, this team should trade for Lamar. Lamar makes the most sense here. Lamar should be the top priority of (blank)." I mean really, do they even think about the drivel before it tumbles out of their mouths? Then they act like it's a conspiracy or some kind of travesty that no one is doing the things they are suggesting. Two first round picks to the Ravens and the guy wants a contract with the most GUARANTEED $$$ in the history of the NFL. It's not rocket science. It's two 1sts and a contract that could set your franchise back for years to come, especially if Lamar suffers a play style altering injury. It's a huge risk for a guy who has missed at least 5 games per year the last two due to injury. This is why the analysts and sports media crowd aren't GM's or owners. Because they would fall flat. He also should've coughed up the 2 or 3 % and hired Drew Rosenhaus. He would've been sitting on a nice guarantee by now. Maybe not the Watson contract, because the Browns are idiots, but he would have gotten more than Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray I bet. Edited March 20 by H2o 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I see the same possibility with Aaron Rodgers. Sportscasters are touting the Jets as super bowl contenders but I can't see it. Rodgers is old (for football), very rich, and seems to have other things on his mind besides football. I for one expect him to get injured and sit out much of the season. Keep in mind I have no factual basis to make this prediction LOL. Call it a strong hunch. I agree 💯. These things just seem so predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 hours ago, aristocrat said: the same risk is there if you sign him to a five year deal with three of those guaranteed. If you don’t sign him you’re in qb he’ll anyways going with has beens like the skins and falcons did last year and will this coming year. In your mind they shouldn’t sign anyone cause what if something bad happens lol. What about drafting a QB. what about waiting a year to get someone else many options without giving up the future of the franchise for a Top 20 passer top 5 runner and top 10 injured QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 19 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: What about drafting a QB. what about waiting a year to get someone else many options without giving up the future of the franchise for a Top 20 passer top 5 runner and top 10 injured QB what if you miss on qb like jets and Wilson and Darnold, baker with browns etc? he didn’t even get hurt on a run play he got hurt on awkward sacks. Lamar can play if that knee is healthy so if it is teams should trade picks for a guy who can legit play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: what if you miss on qb like jets and Wilson and Darnold, baker with browns etc? he didn’t even get hurt on a run play he got hurt on awkward sacks. Lamar can play if that knee is healthy so if it is teams should trade picks for a guy who can legit play. My risk reward at that price says no deal. his actions also state he is unreasonable and doesn’t have a sense of the market. like a really pretty girlfriend that is just a princess. You get sick of her sh$t fast because you’ve seen her mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Behindenemylines said: My risk reward at that price says no deal. his actions also state he is unreasonable and doesn’t have a sense of the market. like a really pretty girlfriend that is just a princess. You get sick of her sh$t fast because you’ve seen her mom so instead of going for the unreasonable guy they're just gonna go with mediocre and essentially waste years of their franchise? washington and the falcons have zero chance of winning next year at least with lamar they'd have a great shot at the division. Without him nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: so instead of going for the unreasonable guy they're just gonna go with mediocre and essentially waste years of their franchise? washington and the falcons have zero chance of winning next year at least with lamar they'd have a great shot at the division. Without him nothing. I think Lamar is unreasonable, but if I am the Falcons, I'm definitely taking a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 34 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so instead of going for the unreasonable guy they're just gonna go with mediocre and essentially waste years of their franchise? washington and the falcons have zero chance of winning next year at least with lamar they'd have a great shot at the division. Without him nothing. A “shot” at the division isn’t The Superbowl he ain’t gonna get you there so what’s the point at this price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 can the Ravens trade him? No one will both make him the highest paid player on a guaranteed deal and cough up two firsts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, stuvian said: can the Ravens trade him? No one will both make him the highest paid player on a guaranteed deal and cough up two firsts I think he will see that, in time. If he signs for the tag, then I assume he could be traded but nobody would take him without a deal worked out. I really don’t like fully guaranteed contracts. Guys like Dareus come to mind. It may be coming, but I hope it’s slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, H2o said: It trips me out how these "analysts" and the sports media crowd keeps trying to say, "this team should trade for Lamar. No, this team should trade for Lamar. Lamar makes the most sense here. Lamar should be the top priority of (blank)." I mean really, do they even think about the drivel before it tumbles out of their mouths? Then they act like it's a conspiracy or some kind of travesty that no one is doing the things they are suggesting. Two first round picks to the Ravens and the guy wants a contract with the most GUARANTEED $$$ in the history of the NFL. It's not rocket science. It's two 1sts and a contract that could set your franchise back for years to come, especially if Lamar suffers a play style altering injury. It's a huge risk for a guy who has missed at least 5 games per year the last two due to injury. This is why the analysts and sports media crowd aren't GM's or owners. Because they would fall flat. He also should've coughed up the 2 or 3 % and hired Drew Rosenhaus. He would've been sitting on a nice guarantee by now. Maybe not the Watson contract, because the Browns are idiots, but he would have gotten more than Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray I bet. 1. Lamar not having an agent is a dumb move 2. Lamar not having an agent and demanding that much guaranteed money with his injury history is a dumb move. 3. Lamar thinking he has a chance to find a sucker franchise who will piss off the other owners is a dumb move. These analysts on TV all hold onto this notion, much like with Rodgers, that "former MVP" seems to mean something. No, recent playoff records mean something. Having the talent around you to succeed means something. Watching that Ravens/Bengals playoff game I came to the realization that HUNTLEY almost won that game for the Ravens with the dearth of offensive talent around him. The Ravens KNOW that they don't need to pay his price, and so here we are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: 1. Lamar not having an agent is a dumb move 2. Lamar not having an agent and demanding that much guaranteed money with his injury history is a dumb move. 3. Lamar thinking he has a chance to find a sucker franchise who will piss off the other owners is a dumb move. These analysts on TV all hold onto this notion, much like with Rodgers, that "former MVP" seems to mean something. No, recent playoff records mean something. Having the talent around you to succeed means something. Watching that Ravens/Bengals playoff game I came to the realization that HUNTLEY almost won that game for the Ravens with the dearth of offensive talent around him. The Ravens KNOW that they don't need to pay his price, and so here we are. Huntley isn’t in the same stratosphere as Lamar, but Lamar isn’t as great as Lamar thinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Lamar has this delusion he is better than Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Tua, Dak, hurts and others I can mention. But when it come right down to it this guy has only one advantage, he can run better than the most of mentioned guys above, but just barely and he gets hurt more than these guys above as well. So in his delusions of grandeur he believes he deserves the most guaranteed money ever. Hate to burst you bubble pal but you are a 2nd rate passer and you always have been. If you couldn't run you would not even be starting as a 1st string QB. Sit your sorry ass down on the bench this year. You are not getting paid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 He’s going to sit on $32.4 mil until he’s ready to accept $45 mil for this season. Then, next year we do this all over again. i will say this though, the NFL off season is more interesting than all the other sports going on right now combined. LJ and Rodgers are filling up hours upon hours of talk show content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Representative not certified by NFLPA has contacted multiple teams on behalf of Lamar Jackson https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/21/representative-not-certified-by-nflpa-has-contacted-multiple-teams-on-behalf-of-lamar-jackson/ thats a big no-no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchConnection Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, papazoid said: Representative not certified by NFLPA has contacted multiple teams on behalf of Lamar Jackson https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/21/representative-not-certified-by-nflpa-has-contacted-multiple-teams-on-behalf-of-lamar-jackson/ thats a big no-no He's got his mom calling up NFL GMs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Somewhere The Rock is watching this situation VERY close. Can you imagine if Jackson went to the XFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 hours ago, Toyo321 said: Lamar has this delusion he is better than Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Tua, Dak, hurts and others I can mention. But when it come right down to it this guy has only one advantage, he can run better than the most of mentioned guys above, but just barely and he gets hurt more than these guys above as well. So in his delusions of grandeur he believes he deserves the most guaranteed money ever. Hate to burst you bubble pal but you are a 2nd rate passer and you always have been. If you couldn't run you would not even be starting as a 1st string QB. Sit your sorry ass down on the bench this year. You are not getting paid!! Not so sure it's delusions of grandeur. Someone made a great point somewhere that said, without an agent and real representation, Lamar has basically NO endorsement deals. Even if he had an agent, he isnt a great spokesman/actor/face of a product as it is. So with that, he knows he isnt going to get many/any endorsements and has to plan on not making that money like most other QBs. That is why Watson pushed for the large, fully guaranteed contract. He DEFINITELY isnt getting any endorsement deals, and has to make all his money in the NFL alone. Jackson is following that model. So in that light, I do get where Lamar is coming from. Even though I think he is wrong in just about every other way he is handling this. Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Somewhere The Rock is watching this situation VERY close. Can you imagine if Jackson went to the XFL? I dont think the entire XFL payroll adds up to what Lamar is asking for. Not even sure the entire LEAGUE is worth $250M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not so sure it's delusions of grandeur. Someone made a great point somewhere that said, without an agent and real representation, Lamar has basically NO endorsement deals. Even if he had an agent, he isnt a great spokesman/actor/face of a product as it is. So with that, he knows he isnt going to get many/any endorsements and has to plan on not making that money like most other QBs. That is why Watson pushed for the large, fully guaranteed contract. He DEFINITELY isnt getting any endorsement deals, and has to make all his money in the NFL alone. Jackson is following that model. So in that light, I do get where Lamar is coming from. Even though I think he is wrong in just about every other way he is handling this. I dont think the entire XFL payroll adds up to what Lamar is asking for. Not even sure the entire LEAGUE is worth $250M For sure, but if there’s one dude who can convince Jackson to take less and stick it to the NFL, it’s Rocky Miavia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 #1- a player who represents himself has a fool for a client #2- the NFLPA wants all contracts to be guaranteed so badly they are using/giving lamar bad advice at his peril Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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