thenorthremembers Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 hours ago, unbillievable said: He could copy Deshaun Watson. Show up to the facility but do nothing. Benching himself. He's gonna have to do a bit more if he wants to copy the Deshaun Watson model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 50 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: The risk is he gets hurt every season, misses numerous games, and the team fails to make the playoffs year after year. You’re in QB hell, ala Stafford right now. or he gets his payday and decides to mail it in week after week. With how he is negotiating I see that as a realistic possibility. Same hell or after year one or two he declines and is too good to throw away and not good enough to keep. Same hell none of these options sell seats and jerseys and his coat sets you back 3-5 years easily. appears to me all risk for the team and the fact teams are drooling over him seems they have the same conclusion the same risk is there if you sign him to a five year deal with three of those guaranteed. If you don’t sign him you’re in qb he’ll anyways going with has beens like the skins and falcons did last year and will this coming year. In your mind they shouldn’t sign anyone cause what if something bad happens lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Peter king said Lamar has played one game in December and January the last two seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 11 hours ago, SCBills said: Gabe Davis was a 4th RD pick. Ravens have drafted Lamar 2-RD1 WR’s and 2-RD3 WR’s. They’ve also drafted a bunch of TE’s, including Andrews and invested more in OL than we have. Maybe Lamar just can’t elevate anybody. Um, Hollywood brown was better with Lamar than he was in Arizona. Andrews was a 3rd round rookie with Lamar. It’s Lamar’s fault that Bateman is made of glass? this is just blatantly wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/18/2023 at 6:41 PM, NewEra said: I agree with all of this except I think Bateman is a better WR than Gabe Davis. Bad system, bad throws + injuries have knocked him down the rung, but I think he’s pretty good I think Bateman is talented but it doesn’t really matter if you don’t play. He’s missed 16 games in 2 years. He was supposed to be their one after they traded away brown. Dobbins is always hurt. I’m not even sure if they’re other receivers off the top of my head. It is not a talented group and the most talented players are always hurt. I actually think Davis is the perfect type of receiver for Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think Bateman is talented but it doesn’t really matter if you don’t play. He’s missed 16 games in 2 years. He was supposed to be their one after they traded away brown. Dobbins is always hurt. I’m not even sure if they’re other receivers off the top of my head. It is not a talented group and the most talented players are always hurt. I actually think Davis is the perfect type of receiver for Jackson. Lamar's missed 12 games (and probably would have missed more if his team had advanced in the playoffs) the past 2 years. Edited March 20 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think Bateman is talented but it doesn’t really matter if you don’t play. He’s missed 16 games in 2 years. He was supposed to be their one after they traded away brown. Dobbins is always hurt. I’m not even sure if they’re other receivers off the top of my head. It is not a talented group and the most talented players are always hurt. I actually think Davis is the perfect type of receiver for Jackson. Can’t argue with that. Gotta be able to play. The guy was never injured in college. Can’t stay healthy in B-more. Healthy, I think he’s better than Gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 hours ago, chongli said: But he's already missed something like $70million by not signing an extension sooner like Josh. This was mentioned by Mike Florio last week or so. I don't see missing $32 million more to be a problem for him. I think he also said he was not going to play for the Ravens this year unless they used the non-exclusive tag on him ($45 million I think). He's bull-headed. if he sits out he doesn’t get an accrued year and the ravens can just tag him again next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Um, Hollywood brown was better with Lamar than he was in Arizona. Andrews was a 3rd round rookie with Lamar. It’s Lamar’s fault that Bateman is made of glass? this is just blatantly wrong. They've invested heavier on Offense around Lamar than the Bills have around Allen. Maybe Lamar needs a Diggs.. he has Andrews, but Stefon Diggs type WR's don't want to play with Lamar, so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: if he sits out he doesn’t get an accrued year and the ravens can just tag him again next season. True but the tag will be higher and tie up more of the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Um, Hollywood brown was better with Lamar than he was in Arizona. Andrews was a 3rd round rookie with Lamar. It’s Lamar’s fault that Bateman is made of glass? this is just blatantly wrong. All that means is Lamar is better at elevating WRs than Kyler Murray, which isnt saying much since both QBs stink. Edited March 20 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) The more I think of it, if you're a star QB in this league isn't your contract basically guaranteed anyway? Let's say the Ravens sign him 5 years, $250 million but only 1/2 is guaranteed. If he plays well and is who he is he will see every penny, because he would have to agree to a restructure of they would have to cut him. Otherwise, he will get the $$. Josh Allen will see every penny of his contract here, and then some, regardless of guarantees. Edited March 20 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 51 minutes ago, SCBills said: They've invested heavier on Offense around Lamar than the Bills have around Allen. Maybe Lamar needs a Diggs.. he has Andrews, but Stefon Diggs type WR's don't want to play with Lamar, so.... Ravens I guess are targeting WR who have to want to win first and foremost. now every NFL receiver will tell the media all they care about is winning and that their own individual production come secondary. which is a lie. Why do we know? Only Patrick Mahomes has a higher Winning Percentage of starting QBs with more than 50 games played (okay and Jimmy G). Lamar … wins. But that isn’t good enough for WRs who “just want to win”. Which they don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: if he sits out he doesn’t get an accrued year and the ravens can just tag him again next season. Thanks. I was thinking he might just show his anger by not reporting until the 12th game. This way, although he would get less of a salary, he would still get an accrued Sesson credit, and the second tag the next year would be more expensive. He probably won't do that, as someone else mentioned, but I am just thinking of the possibilities in this case, since it is so bizarre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I'm thinking Lamar in the end will be a classic example of why "a Bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 11 hours ago, Doc said: Huh? What's that about Belicheat? I think it would be interesting to see which narrative would win out? The current one or the old reliable. Right now the media narrative is that the Watson deal didn’t happen and Lamar is a tyrant diva who accidentally donates his time to kids and money to charity. He fumbles the ball to receivers hands for TDs but he can only run. Most of his injuries are due to butterfly wing pulses because he’s made of tissue paper. But if NE traded for Lamar, the old chestnut narrative of BB being Stephen Hawking of football would probably win out. He’d be lauded for being smarter than everyone else yet again. Because Bellicheat is the goat and outsmarts the waiter at Olive Garden at lunch subconsciously. The waiter gives him money at the end. Bill would be outthinking the entire NFL and locking up his franchise QB for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He's gonna have to do a bit more if he wants to copy the Deshaun Watson model. It's Baltimore, I'm sure he has a nice rub n tug right around the corner somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeaid Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I see the same possibility with Aaron Rodgers. Sportscasters are touting the Jets as super bowl contenders but I can't see it. Rodgers is old (for football), very rich, and seems to have other things on his mind besides football. I for one expect him to get injured and sit out much of the season. Keep in mind I have no factual basis to make this prediction LOL. Call it a strong hunch. I see no desire for Rodgers to get a second ring but have some better weapons might be enough. JEST might decide to go all out this year aka LA Rams to get their 2nd Superbowl career win. Will Joe Namath lend him his coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: The more I think of it, if you're a star QB in this league isn't your contract basically guaranteed anyway? Let's say the Ravens sign him 5 years, $250 million but only 1/2 is guaranteed. If he plays well and is who he is he will see every penny, because he would have to agree to a restructure of they would have to cut him. Otherwise, he will get the $$. Josh Allen will see every penny of his contract here, and then some, regardless of guarantees. Yes, and I have said the same. The only way Josh doesn't get all of the money in his contract would be a career ending injury. Another key point any agent would be stressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Doc said: True but the tag will be higher and tie up more of the cap. Really? I thought if they don’t accrue the season then it doesn’t count. Like when Star sat out Covid year the contract that year didn’t count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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