SCBills Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, purple haze said: You all are wild. Why should he consider that? This is basic business. Watson signed a deal for 230 million guaranteed. Jackson is no less accomplished and his contract talks were coming up. Of course he’ll want what Watson received plus more. That’s usually how it works. Lamar doesn’t have the issue. The Haslem’s bad decision making is the issue. if I’m Lamar Jackson I won’t take less from Baltimore. If I have to take less it will be in another uniform and I would not play on the tag either. Sit out. In that scenario they will trade him eventually. The one team that took a chance on him, you want him to do them like that? He’s, at best, the 4th QB in the AFC and I can bet more GM’s than not would rather have Herbert or Lawrence, which drops him to 6th in a fight with 40 year old Rodgers. He has zero self awareness and now comes off like a complete sideshow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: He won't get what he's looking for from anyone. And in the meantime he'll cost himself $50M+. He already did. His stubbornness has already cost him tens of millions of dollars. There's no telling how much this will end up costing him by the time he gets his new deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: He already did. His stubbornness has already cost him tens of millions of dollars. There's no telling how much this will end up costing him by the time he gets his new deal New deal from who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, purple haze said: You all are wild. Why should he consider that? This is basic business. Watson signed a deal for 230 million guaranteed. Jackson is no less accomplished and his contract talks were coming up. Of course he’ll want what Watson received plus more. That’s usually how it works. Lamar doesn’t have the issue. The Haslem’s bad decision making is the issue. if I’m Lamar Jackson I won’t take less from Baltimore. If I have to take less it will be in another uniform and I would not play on the tag either. Sit out. In that scenario they will trade him eventually. Seems to be working out well for Lamar.. well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, Governor said: I think the Ravens are praying someone trades for him but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. At that point they’re basically screwed and he will probably sit or the Ravens could make an example out of him and just bench him. It could get ugly. I said 2 years ago that the Jackson experiment in Baltimore was coming to a close and I still believe that. That first Bills game made their decision for them. That was his ceiling. It’s time to move on before they all get fired. The Ravens are a well respected franchise. I don’t happen to like them but they have been for years. They will outlast Lamar and imho they have handled this respectfully. Newsome is a front office legend and it’s a top 10 NFL organization. Oh it’s already ugly! RGlll trying to make his name 💯 support of players against the “man”. Lamar is over his head and yes the NFL is a machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 14 hours ago, stevestojan said: Just googled a bit and apparently 10 is the border of literacy. So I don’t think Lamar is regularly arguing over the proper use of the Oxford comma. I just think about the complexities of an NFL playbook… In his defense, Roman is said to have the most complicated running playbook in the NFL and he seemed to grasp the offense. Unless it was dumbed down for him but I dont ever remember reading that. Maybe he is just one of those people that are really smart at some things and not so smart at other things. I know there are things I am absolutely dumb at that I dont even try to understand anymore but I am pretty smart at a few things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: In his defense, Roman is said to have the most complicated running playbook in the NFL and he seemed to grasp the offense. Unless it was dumbed down for him but I dont ever remember reading that. Maybe he is just one of those people that are really smart at some things and not so smart at other things. I know there are things I am absolutely dumb at that I dont even try to understand anymore but I am pretty smart at a few things. Lamar is a great football player - he scares me more then any other player bc he can produce a TD any play of the game he’s just that dangerous but he has not played this correctly and he should have had someone guiding him but now he has burned bridges with his current team and shown some negative traits which is affecting this contract negotiations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: Lamar is a great football player - he scares me more then any other player bc he can produce a TD any play of the game he’s just that dangerous but he has not played this correctly and he should have had someone guiding him but now he has burned bridges with his current team and shown some negative traits which is affecting this contract negotiations Im not as high on Lamar as some. I do think he is a great football player but I dont think he is a great passer. I agree on the rest. He misplayed this and should have had an agent. He is never going to get the contract he wants and he is just costing himself money. If he continues to play this wrong it could cost him his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 RGIII is proof that the talking heads on ESPN are worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, BeastMaster said: He already did. His stubbornness has already cost him tens of millions of dollars. There's no telling how much this will end up costing him by the time he gets his new deal Oh, I know. I figure he's cost himself at least $42M by not signing an extension after Josh got one. Now he's under the franchise tage of $32M, which is about $13M under what he could have been averaging at least. And Richard Sherman is blaming Mahomes and Josh for not signing fully-guaranteed deals after Cousins did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 hours ago, purple haze said: You all are wild. Why should he consider that? This is basic business. Watson signed a deal for 230 million guaranteed. Jackson is no less accomplished and his contract talks were coming up. Of course he’ll want what Watson received plus more. That’s usually how it works. Lamar doesn’t have the issue. The Haslem’s bad decision making is the issue. if I’m Lamar Jacks on I won’t take less from Baltimore. If I have to take less it will be in another uniform and I would not play on the tag either. Sit out. In that scenario they will trade him eventually. So he would take a non fully guaranteed contract from another team? He's just trying to screw over the Ravens with this specific demand? To what end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: RACISM!!!! Obviously that’s why Mahomes, Watson, Kyler etc have the contracts they have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 9 hours ago, mikemac2001 said: Lamar is a great football player - he scares me more then any other player bc he can produce a TD any play of the game he’s just that dangerous but he has not played this correctly and he should have had someone guiding him but now he has burned bridges with his current team and shown some negative traits which is affecting this contract negotiations 9 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Im not as high on Lamar as some. I do think he is a great football player but I dont think he is a great passer. I agree on the rest. He misplayed this and should have had an agent. He is never going to get the contract he wants and he is just costing himself money. If he continues to play this wrong it could cost him his career. Lemar can be neutralized by good disciplined defenses as shown in Bills Ravens playoff game. Bills game plan was to keep him in pocket and Trent Murphy himself took away half of the field allowing others on defense to harass him mercifulness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: RGIII is proof that the talking heads on ESPN are worthless. The talked heads at ESPN are employed by Disney so that’s the kind of dialogue they want.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: AM should give back the $ he stole from Ralph Wilson. The only thibg currently going on in sports is that of black athlete privilege. AM is unaware that the NFL has caught up to the cred and rev talent that is Lamar. He’s somewhere between the 12-16 best QB in the league with a downward trajectory. Sorry that’s the facts. And he’s made completely avoidable poor decisions that have impacted his value and reputation. MM doesn’t have the courage to speak to the current black athlete privilege that is overwhelmingly negatively impacting sports. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 hours ago, BeastMaster said: He already did. His stubbornness has already cost him tens of millions of dollars. There's no telling how much this will end up costing him by the time he gets his new deal the best guaranteed dollars would’ve been the ones he would’ve already been paid, right? he’s essentially passed on tens of millions to try to guarantee tens of millions in 5 years that he’s very likely to be paid either way. It’s terrible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So he would take a non fully guaranteed contract from another team? He's just trying to screw over the Ravens with this specific demand? To what end? He’s trying to get what he wants and feels he deserves based on his accomplishments and what the market set. Had the Ravens paid him earlier on this situation wouldn’t exist. The Ravens have themselves to blame. With what Jackson has meant to the Ravens, no, I would not take less from them. If I had to settle it would be somewhere else where I have no history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 21 hours ago, SCBills said: The one team that took a chance on him, you want him to do them like that? He’s, at best, the 4th QB in the AFC and I can bet more GM’s than not would rather have Herbert or Lawrence, which drops him to 6th in a fight with 40 year old Rodgers. He has zero self awareness and now comes off like a complete sideshow. This is business. The best QB the Ravens’ organization has ever had, who puts asses in seats weekly, and is big on helping the community as well, is the man they don’t want to pay a market value contract? Why do the Ravens want to do him like that? if they don’t think he’s worth what he’s asking for, trade him. Go find a QB who is worth it then. Good luck to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Wait till Burrow demands a fully guaranteed deal. It's coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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