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3 hours ago, Gugny said:

This reminds me of when we brought Dave Wannestadt in. Sometimes (always), the game evolves and old coaches don’t. 
 

Oh … and f*ck Rex Ryan. 

 

 

Remember how he was going to make our defense vicious, and then he had to bring in new players to do it?

 

They need a guy who can adapt to their already excellent players, not a guy who needs the GM to bring in guys to fit his system.

 

Has the knowledge to be good, IMO, but is he too lazy at this point? And seems like a bad fit for a defense that's already really good.

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4 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

Are they a 3-4 defense? 

 

Yes, and up front one imagines there will be a strong element of continuity. It's on the back end where I see the scheme differences. Rex ran a lot of more man than is typical for the NFL in 2022. Denver primarily play zone behind the their rush packages. Let's see if Rex can adapt. One of his problems here was his impatience IMO. I remember that Thursday Night game where Fitz ripped us and we came out in basically a different coverage package each drive. It's almost impossible to execute when you keep chopping and changing like that. 

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6 hours ago, wppete said:

Love this! Getting exciting! A DC with a pulse. The opposite of Frazier. Hope he gets the job, will be watching the show in Denver next year for sure. 

Amazing how Frazier again escapes,  did anyone offer him a job? No because he sucks and has zero options if the Bills fired him.  This is a major sign of weakness by Sean, he does not have the killer instinct or Frazier would have been toast after 13 secs

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9 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Amazing how Frazier again escapes,  did anyone offer him a job? No because he sucks and has zero options if the Bills fired him.  This is a major sign of weakness by Sean, he does not have the killer instinct or Frazier would have been toast after 13 secs

 

If Leslie Frazier was fired and still wanted to coach he would be hired in next to no time. He got to the 2nd interview stage for two Head Coaching jobs last year (after 13 seconds) and has top 10 defenses in 4 of the last 5 seasons. He would not be short of offers.

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7 hours ago, Gugny said:

This reminds me of when we brought Dave Wannestadt in. Sometimes (always), the game evolves and old coaches don’t. 
 

Oh … and f*ck Rex Ryan. 

This

 

AFter he stole Ralph's money, then arranged to have his brother get some free money too, I hope he never works again.  Anytime, anywhere.

 

And plus, he sucks, is a buffoon, and the game probably passed him by.

 

Consolation:  If he does come back, i desperately hope its in the AFC.

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yes, and up front one imagines there will be a strong element of continuity. It's on the back end where I see the scheme differences. Rex ran a lot of more man than is typical for the NFL in 2022. Denver primarily play zone behind the their rush packages. Let's see if Rex can adapt. One of his problems here was his impatience IMO. I remember that Thursday Night game where Fitz ripped us and we came out in basically a different coverage package each drive. It's almost impossible to execute when you keep chopping and changing like that. 

 

Do you ever see the bills transitioning to a 3-4 with these players? 

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4 hours ago, H2o said:

I guess Payton didn't learn anything from having that crap defense run by the other brother in NO. 

I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. 

 

He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. 

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2 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. 

 

He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. 

His hands were all over ruining the #4 overall defense in the NFL, which we had prior to his arrival in 2015. Our defenses were putrid under Rex and that was supposed to be his forte. 

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37 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. 

 

He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. 

 

He was. But he hasn't been a coordinator since 2008 and his sole coordinating experience in the NFL came with a defense containing three current or future HoFers in Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs. 

 

However you want to badge his input on the defenses in New York and Buffalo in his final years as a Head Coach they made the top 10 only once in his last four seasons. I think the league passed him by somewhat. Having said that... the mid 10s were definitely the era of 4-3 and cover 3... there has been a bit of a pivot back towards the 3-4 but even that is with more Fangio style schemes that are about confusion and coverage rather than the Rex Ryan blitz the hell out of you and leave our corners on an island approach. 

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57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was. But he hasn't been a coordinator since 2008 and his sole coordinating experience in the NFL came with a defense containing three current or future HoFers in Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs. 

 

However you want to badge his input on the defenses in New York and Buffalo in his final years as a Head Coach they made the top 10 only once in his last four seasons. I think the league passed him by somewhat. Having said that... the mid 10s were definitely the era of 4-3 and cover 3... there has been a bit of a pivot back towards the 3-4 but even that is with more Fangio style schemes that are about confusion and coverage rather than the Rex Ryan blitz the hell out of you and leave our corners on an island approach. 

Yeah I don't disagree. I was more or less just defending him as an infinitely better coach than his brother. 

 

Maybe...Rex's scheme of heavy man and blitz will be BETTER? in todays game. It's absolutely a risk for them to take since he hasn't been coaching in 7 years and the game has changed a lot. 

1 hour ago, H2o said:

His hands were all over ruining the #4 overall defense in the NFL, which we had prior to his arrival in 2015. Our defenses were putrid under Rex and that was supposed to be his forte. 

Again, don't disagree. Like I said, being an HC and balancing that with being a coordinator is not easy and MOST fail. He wasn't an exception, unfortunately.

 

If you fast forward to today. We have a top 5 defense but.... what does that even mean? That defense FELT like a bottom 10 defense this year. 

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12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Leslie Frazier haters, remember that Rex Ryan is the antiuniverse Frazier:

- fat white guy; skinny black guy

- loudmouth know it all; calm, quiet tactician

- all blitzes and stunts, forcing the action and gunning for the big play; all bend but don’t break, let ‘em kill their own drive. 
 

 

So what you're saying is we need to find middle sized bi-racial guy, who knows when to speak, knows when to listen, and is adaptable to incorporate all styles of defense depending on the opponent. 

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13 hours ago, wppete said:

Love this! Getting exciting! A DC with a pulse. The opposite of Frazier. Hope he gets the job, will be watching the show in Denver next year for sure. 

What in the actual *****?  Rex's "pulse" is a disaster.  There's no excuse for this ignorant of a comment from a Bills fan, unless you were born in 2017

1 hour ago, warrior9 said:

Yeah I don't disagree. I was more or less just defending him as an infinitely better coach than his brother. 

 

Maybe...Rex's scheme of heavy man and blitz will be BETTER? in todays game. It's absolutely a risk for them to take since he hasn't been coaching in 7 years and the game has changed a lot. 

Again, don't disagree. Like I said, being an HC and balancing that with being a coordinator is not easy and MOST fail. He wasn't an exception, unfortunately.

 

If you fast forward to today. We have a top 5 defense but.... what does that even mean? That defense FELT like a bottom 10 defense this year. 

Talk about asinine comments. It doesn't matter how you felt.  We were top 2. 

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18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

What in the actual *****?  Rex's "pulse" is a disaster.  There's no excuse for this ignorant of a comment from a Bills fan, unless you were born in 2017

Talk about asinine comments. It doesn't matter how you felt.  We were top 2. 


Ohh complete nonsense. I’ll take Rex over Frazier all day. 

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9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Now it sounds like it's not happening with Vance Joseph interviewing...

 

That's a bummer


The notion of him being “a top candidate” for a DC job seemed like nothing more than some PR Rex or his agent had put out there. I’d be floored if any team seriously considered him. 

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