Bills!Win! Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 So what I’m gathering is the Bills are probably trading for Davante Adams because there’s no rumors about it 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Bills!Win! said: So what I’m gathering is the Bills are probably trading for Davante Adams because there’s no rumors about it And Josh Jacob's for Oliver, Basham, Epenesa & a 5th rounder in the 2036 draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 If they allow the chiefs to snake this deal from them, you have to wonder if beane and Sean are the guys 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: So what I’m gathering is the Bills are probably trading for Davante Adams because there’s no rumors about it Makes about as much sense as believing ErieCountyBulls is a legitimate reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jerboski said: If they allow the chiefs to snake this deal from them, you have to wonder if beane and Sean are the guys If the Chiefs take the deal, good for them. It has nothing to do with whether beane and Sean are the guys. It just means the deal wasn't going to work for them. And they moved on. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 So as beane says social media is social media - he curiously denied this report though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: If the Chiefs take the deal, good for them. It has nothing to do with whether beane and Sean are the guys. It just means the deal wasn't going to work for them. And they moved on. Exactly. And if the Chiefs do land him, he'll be added to a WR core currently headlined by Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore, after losing JuJu Smith-Schuster and Mecole Hardman. Addition and Upgrade to WR1, but to a core that has faced substantial reductions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So as beane says social media is social media - he curiously denied this report though This is great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: This is great news. in the end who knows how anything shakes out, I still think Mike Evans might be on the block as well and I'm not sure we are done with WR. I still lead towards a proven commodity at this point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: If the Chiefs take the deal, good for them. It has nothing to do with whether beane and Sean are the guys. It just means the deal wasn't going to work for them. And they moved on. You either make the moves or you don’t running it back as is means another second round exit 18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Exactly. And if the Chiefs do land him, he'll be added to a WR core currently headlined by Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore, after losing JuJu Smith-Schuster and Mecole Hardman. Addition and Upgrade to WR1, but to a core that has faced substantial reductions. We said the exact thing when hill left and how did that play out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jerboski said: You either make the moves or you don’t. Exactly, but if they don't make the move that doesn't determine whether or not they're going to be successful. It just says that they moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: And Josh Jacob's for Oliver, Basham, Epenesa & a 5th rounder in the 2036 draft. 2037 5th and you have a deal... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Jerboski said: We said the exact thing when hill left and how did that play out Right. They lost Hill and replaced him with Schuster. The point is, if they do the trade, they'll be adding Hopkins but will have lost Schuster and Hardman. Adding one maybe elite WR, but also losing two very good WR's that have hurt us. So i'm not buying the idea that the Chiefs will become so much more superpowered than they were last year and adding Hopkins means "we're doomed", can never possibly hope to beat them, and it's a total failure if we don't stop it from happening. Edited March 28, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Right. They lost Hill and replaced him with Schuster. The point is, if they do the trade, they'll be adding Hopkins but will have lost Schuster and Hardman. Adding one maybe elite WR, but also losing two very good WR's that have hurt us. So i'm not buying the idea that the Chiefs will become so much more superpowered than they were last year and adding Hopkins means "we're doomed", can never possibly hope to beat them, and it's a total failure if we don't stop it from happening. At what point is beane and Sean on the hook for closing the gap? Running it back will mean a second round exit again so tell me what we are doing to close the gap this year? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jerboski said: At what point is beane and Sean on the hook for closing the gap? Running it back will mean a second round exit again so tell me what we are doing to close the gap this year? It's March 27th. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's March 27th. I’m aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, Jerboski said: I’m aware That was unclear from your post. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: After listening to Beane's interview, they are laying in the weeds...and not out on Hopkins. It sounded like he entirely brushed the question on hopkins away and then was like until a player signs or is traded we will be in on it. He only ruled out non-culture fits and non-scheme fits.he had a mini tirade about how only 1 out of 100 calls for trades where they actually happen and a bunch of other stuff. That's jmo. Iirc, obj won't count against a comp pick because he was a ufa before the league new year. I imagine we were the $4 mil team though lol Why should we give credence to a dude called "ErieCountyBulls" who is following almost as many people as he has followers? I mean, I know a guy has to start somewhere but for someone who joined Twitter in 2014, 9 years ago, those are miniscule numbers Has this guy ever said anything else that shows credibility? https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/brandon-beane-address-deandre-hopkins-speculation?utm_campaign=sharebutton&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=WGRAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs was also known to be available for trade though? There had been talk the previous fall when Diggs went AWOL and got fined. But the Vikes said "no". When it happened, there was none of this long dragged out schtuff. Diggs tweeted something about a new beginning, Beane's people called Vikes "hey, is he available?" and the next thing we knew he was in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Happy to eat crow if I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if this gets done anytime soon, or even at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: No, it won't. You'll watch every game and then come here to complain and threaten. But unless you're not a true blue Bills fan and just a fair weather fan, you won't stop following the team. I get fans wanting a Super Bowl so bad you can taste it. And yes, it's incredibly frustrating to come so close and not get there. But before Beane got here, we were in purgatory. Laughing stock of the league. It's important to keep that in perspective of where we are now. Maybe Hopkins will happen. Maybe he won't. But there's still a lot of time left in the Offseason. Who knows what this team will look like in the Season Opener. And if it weren't for a myriad of injuries and unfortunate situations derailing the team last season, who knows what we could have been if those things didn't happen. Who knows what we could be with the same team if those things don't happen this season. 👍🏻 18 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Happy to eat crow if I'm wrong, but I would be surprised if this gets done anytime soon, or even at all. It’ll happen. Maybe not to Buffalo, but someone will trade for him. Most likely KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 INTO THE MULTIVERSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Hope he enjoys the SB @ KC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 1 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcg Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Waits for people to say "oh well he was washed up" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Beane says he is happy with his receiving corps? And the replacement MLB is already on the team? Yikes, no wonder Vegas has us at 10.5 wins 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, HappyDays said: And probably straight to Kansas City he goes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 47 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Discouraging, but is TG saying anything surprising here ? The asking price has to come down and / or a Bills player likely needs to be moved. Both would qualify as significant. Does he have any new info here , or just summarizing what we already know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: This was obvious when the price tag came out as a "Christian McCaffrey" level trade a couple days ago. A significant development would be Arizona drastically dropping their price. Short of that, it's never going to happen. Beane is never going to pay a price of 2-3 picks starting with a 2nd this year AND pay 34.5 in cap over two years for a 31 year old WR. I don't care how good they looked as of last season. I don't know that any team is paying that price. I don't believe Jerry Jeudy was ever available to be traded for even though fans clamor for it. Same goes for Mike Evans. https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/16/nfl-news-trade-rumors-mike-evans-tampa-bay-buccaneers-free-agency/ So as of right now, it's pretty much OBJ or a 1st Round Pick as far as a legit WR addition goes. Some of you are just going to have to learn how to deal with it. Edited March 28, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Should I believe this? Lots of people here only want to believe the positive Twitter posts.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 If the Bills really go into the season with these receivers then teams will double team Diggs and he will get frustrated and have a temper tantrum and demand a trade. This is not going to end well. If you want to keep Diggs then you need another receiver 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Should I believe this? Lots of people here only want to believe the positive Twitter posts.. Oh believe me, there's a couple posters in particular that are going to read this and say that Tim Graham doesn't know what he's talking about or that this is more proof than ever it's getting done. But it's... 25 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: If the Bills really go into the season with these receivers then teams will double team Diggs and he will get frustrated and have a temper tantrum and demand a trade. This is not going to end well. If you want to keep Diggs then you need another receiver Back to OBJ watch. Or a 1st Round WR. Hopefully it OBJ doesn't get done, one of Quentin Johnson, Jordan Addison, or Jaxon Smith-Njigba falls to us. Edited March 28, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Should I believe this? Lots of people here only want to believe the positive Twitter posts.. Well, all the positive twitter posts regarding this trade were nothing more than rumors in the first place. So yeah, you can believe Graham’s rumor too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: And probably straight to Kansas City he goes He's not. KC isn't going to trade high draft picks and pick up that contract. I assure you, KC isn't his destination. The only vet WR KC is in on, is OBJ...and that's only if they can wait him out and get him cheap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: He's not. KC isn't going to trade high draft picks and pick up that contract. I assure you, KC isn't his destination. The only vet WR KC is in on, is OBJ...and that's only if they can wait him out and get him cheap. I honestly think Hopkins is going to be a Cardinal this year. The price tag they're asking for says they're not really willing to trade him. If they were motivated to move him, they wouldn't set the price so high. No one is going to give up "Christian McCaffrey" trade compensation for a 31 year old WR on a massive two year cap hit. I don't care how good he's been. That's too much for a guy who could lose a step at any moment. Edited March 28, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: and why is this opinion any more valid than others.....or obvious clearly dhop is available in a trade clearly the bills have a need beane admitted they made a call and anything beyond that he is not allowed to talk about a player under contract with another team arizona has set a value on dhop, nobody has yet been willing to meet it there is no immediate deadline.....so the negotiation dance continues now, where were we.....oh yea, on the way to 200 Edited March 28, 2023 by papazoid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, papazoid said: and why is this opinion any more valid than others.....or obvious clearly dhop is available in a trade clearly the bills have a need beane admitted they made a call and anything beyond that he is not allowed to talk about a player under contract with another team arizona has set a value on dhop, nobody has yet been willing to meet it there is no immediate deadline.....so the negotiation dance continues now, where were we.....oh yea, on the way to 200 It's more valid because it's a BILLS Beat Reporter, who is *actually* seriously connected to the team and has covered them for 15 years, outright saying they won't be trading for him. He wouldn't say it like that unless it was confirmed to him. Not a beat reporter from the Texans. Not some rando on Twitter. It's Tim Graham. If you don't know who Tim Graham is and why his word means more than ErieCountyBulls - I don't even know what to say. As for Beane, he didn't just say he looked into it and they can't talk about him because he's on another team. He made a point to say that Social Media blows things out of proportion. He didn't have to say that and probably wouldn't have if things were serious. That was specifically done to let fans know it wasn't as serious as everyone around here thinks or hopes. Combine all of this with their reported asking price that we were never and will never pay - it's time to face reality. We probably made a call last Wednesday when it was being reported they weren't going to get much and when we found out what the actual price was, that was that. Edited March 28, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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