Buffalo03 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Agree. Beane said he's not against more restructures, but gave the hint he doesn't want to do anymore. By my math: 1. Currently: Maybe we are 9-10m under cap. (Draft likely eats $2m, but this would hypothetically happen after a Hop trade). 2. Tre restructure: saves approx $5.7m 3. Dion restructure: saves approx $6m. But Beane might be more reluctant, given Dion has some potential void years in his deal already. 4. Hopkins: 2023 cap hit is currently $30m, but we'd be on the hook for approx $19m (assuming Cards do NOT retain anything more than required). So in summary: 1. Immediate Cost=$19m 2. Cap status: let's sat $10m under, so we'd need to clear $9-10m 3. Needed savings: we'd HAVE to restructure both Tre and Dion. OR Ed is dealt, OR Cards retain more of the cap hit (likely need them to keep at least $5m more...so we only have to restructure Tre). This is why this deal could be VERY VERY complex to get negotiated, due to cap issues. And would require us to kick alot of cap to future years. They wouldn't have to do that just by adding a couple years onto players contracts. Add a year on Hyde's deal and resign DaQuan Jones to a 2 year extension and those right there would be better than restructuring 28 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: What about the money... honey? Got it for you right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 If the Jets and Chiefs are in this, it’s going to cost a first round pick. I see no way the Jets let this happen. This could be an issue - “we don’t know if we have a 2024 first because we might need to include it for Rodgers.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 They are asking for a 2nd round pick why exactly would I give up my first? Hell no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: If the Jets and Chiefs are in this, it’s going to cost a first round pick. I see no way the Jets let this happen. This could be an issue - “we don’t know if we have a 2024 first because we might need to include it for Rodgers.” Jets have got their own issue front of mind to be worried what the Bills are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, Bills!Win! said: I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages? Some panic, terror, and mass amounts of speculation. Not much else really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Our first round pick last year sat behind a below avg 7th round nobody for most of the year. And the sad part is Elam was probably the best corner we had and the coaches didn’t care. All these recent high picks have been game changers. So much so that we have to use constant rotation to get any production. Also had to go out and get Von Miller to mask all the misses. You think the guy we get at 27 is going to be better than Hopkins? Even throughout the length of their rookie deal? Also I’m not asking to trade a first, I’m just humoring the idea. I’d rather have Greg Rousseau with 3 more years on his rookie deal than Hopkins, yes. It’s such a defeatist mindset to want to trade our picks away for players because Beane missed a couple picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages? You know, the usual. If we let him get traded somewhere else we're doomed and Brandon Beane should be fired. The cap doesn't exist and no one should care about what it costs. Adding him immediately guarantees us a Super Bowl. People with 25 followers are legit sources. Anyone who says anything but we're going to get him aren't legit sources. Tracking flights to Arizona the weekend of the League Meetings in Arizona that couldn't possibly be for anything but picking up Hopkins. We should trade a 1st Round Pick if that's what it takes. Threatening to boycott the team if they don't trade for him. Etc. Edited March 26, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: Agree. Beane said he's not against more restructures, but gave the hint he doesn't want to do anymore. This is why this deal could be VERY VERY complex to get negotiated, due to cap issues. And would require us to kick alot of cap to future years. Just extend DaQuan Jones and Micah Hyde 1 year each and drop their cap for this year, should give us another 8-9M with those two extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 🤷🏼♂️ I’m bored. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Special K said: Don’t hold you breath…😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said: 🤷🏼♂️ I’m bored. The excitement is over because Arizona named their price and it's too much right now and nothing's getting done. Hopefully it drops and we can get it done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages? Not a GOTdamn thing! I’m dummer for having perused it.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanybillsbacker Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Woof. We're talking about a 31 year old WR with a $20 dollar per year deal. He is not worth a 3rd. Roll the dice in the draft. more risk but greater reward if you hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Albanybillsbacker said: Woof. We're talking about a 31 year old WR with a $20 dollar per year deal. He is not worth a 3rd. Roll the dice in the draft. more risk but greater reward if you hit. Yeah, ultimately I think that's probably what Beane is thinking right now. Or circling back to OBJ. Probably still monitoring the situation and telling them to keep in touch if their price drops. But I'm pretty sure what happened was they called and were interested when the word on the street was they'd have to take less than what Houston got for Brandin Cooks. But since then they've heard it's a "Christian McCaffrey" type price tag starting with a 2nd Rounder plus more picks AND the full hit of the contract. That's a non-starter for Brandon Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 hours ago, gordong said: They are asking for a 2nd round pick why exactly would I give up my first? Hell no Bills fall 7 spots, from pick #27(late 1st) to #34 (early 2nd) , which on the Rich Hill trade value chart nets/ is equivalent to a 3rd round pick. we still have our other 2nd round pick #59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Yeah, ultimately I think that's probably what Beane is thinking right now. Or circling back to OBJ. Probably still monitoring the situation and telling them to keep in touch if their price drops. But I'm pretty sure what happened was they called and were interested when the word on the street was they'd have to take less than what Houston got for Brandin Cooks. But since then they've heard it's a "Christian McCaffrey" type price tag starting with a 2nd Rounder plus more picks AND the full hit of the contract. That's a non-starter for Brandon Beane. And we wouldn’t want him to do that either Trust me, Brandon is saving the fans by being patient. I know some don’t wanna hear that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: I think I last opened up this topic when it was 96 pages. What have I missed in the last 43 pages? fellowship, laughs, valuable insight....you know, the usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I’m here for page 140. Someone told me there would be punch and pie?!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Free Beer on page 155....😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Dr. Who said: It's just a joke. Fella was skeptical about the fella with inside information that was offering a hopeful assessment (assuming you want to trade for Hopkins.) If I have to explain it to you, it isn't funny. You apparently didn’t get my joke either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: You apparently didn’t get my joke either. Sorry, did not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, nosejob said: Free Beer on page 155....😏 I see what you did... More like page 255 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, HOUSE said: I see what you did... More like page 255 You're just trying to stall!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: I see what you did... More like page 255 Yeah. Might want to pump the breaks on giving out free beer. We’ll hit 290 by noon today if that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I see what you did... More like page 255 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I see what you did... More like page 255 Genny light 155 Labatt Blue on 255....That should get DHOP here... Edited March 26, 2023 by nosejob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, nosejob said: Genny light 155 Labatt Blue on 255....That should get DHOP here... You should just throw in some Natty ice and we we should not only have Hop, but also Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 "Theres an Olympic size swimming pool on page 275." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: You're just trying to stall!! FREE BEER https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co8MOL5Jsjr/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mrags said: You should just throw in some Natty ice and we we should not only have Hop, but also Henry Add Natty daddy's at page 300 😂 . Make it at page 175 for them. Edited March 26, 2023 by Buffalo Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: Bills fall 7 spots, from pick #27(late 1st) to #34 (early 2nd) , which on the Rich Hill trade value chart nets/ is equivalent to a 3rd round pick. we still have our other 2nd round pick #59 I’d do this in. Heartbeat. Still retain all your picks and drop 8 spots. You’re still getting the same quality of player at 34 as you are at 27. Only issue is you lose the 5th year option. Doesn’t matter though. I’d still do it. They are fools if they had that deal and passed in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: FREE BEER https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co8MOL5Jsjr/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Talk about the ideal neighbor..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I would keep your eyes on the Jets The Jets need to add more talent to attract Aaron Rogers. I could see Jake Kumerow heading that way too. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: In the Cap Jungle, Welcome to the Cap Jungle Gonna guarantee your salaries.. Ries Ries ries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I would keep your eyes on the Jets The Jets need to add more talent to attract Aaron Rogers. I could see Jake Kumerow heading that way too. We shall see... With Jake Kumerow and company itnwilk be something out of a fairytale for Rodgers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, HOUSE said: FREE BEER https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co8MOL5Jsjr/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet I was hoping to be Peter Panned 19 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Add Natty daddy's at page 300 😂 . Make it at 175 for them. OK, everybody delete your comments quickly!!!🤮 Edited March 26, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Seems like this type of trade when done will be announced on a week day, so no news today then maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Not sure what you want me to see from the first game? Elam didn't do anything special and barely lined up against Hill...But if you want to go back 5 years to complain, to say you don't trust them I'm not sure what to tell you. Watch it again then. Elam had a great first start against Miami and he had a big impact on Hill and Waddle in his man to man coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BananaB said: Watch it again then. Elam had a great first start against Miami and he had a big impact on Hill and Waddle in his man to man coverage. I did. He played fine. I wouldn't call it great. He had a lot of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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