Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

[BeastMode54]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

you do realize Nuk missed 6 games right?

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Don't be logical, that's not allowed around here 😁.

 

100% agree on everything you said, slot and YAC should be what we're trying to find in this draft

[Real McClappy]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Pay no mind to having 4 different starting QBs in 2022 and still popping up 64 rec for 717yds in 9 games.  

 

 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Real McNasty

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

 

Hopkins is a top 10 WR right now. 

[GETTOTHE50]

Id be surprised if it happened at this point, esepcially since beane normally gets what he wants.

[Milanos Milano]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Hopkins is a top 10 WR right now. 

Especially with Allen throwing him the ball and Diggs taking away teams from doubling Hopkins. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

Especially with Allen throwing him the ball and Diggs taking away teams from doubling Hopkins. 

 

Great point! 

[Fan in Chicago]

46 minutes ago, JDubya76 said:

#3 is always Profit

Brad Pitt was fantastic in the movie (Burn after Reading)

[Heitz]

13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Hopkins is a top 10 WR right now. 

Yeah, but eventually he won't be and on TBD it's never too early to put the kibosh on things! 🤣

[Buffalo03]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Davis had 93 targets in a full season. Dhop had 96 targets in 9 games. Huge difference 

[Fan in Chicago]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Dude, you are to post that negative stuff if the Ravens or Chiefs get Hopkins. If we get him, he is the missing piece to a Superbowl 

[FluffHead]

23 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Dhop in a pick swap then Josh Downs at 34

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, FluffHead said:

Dhop in a pick swap then Josh Downs at 34

 

If they somehow do pull off a trade for DHop, I don't see where there's any possibility they then turn around and draft a WR high right after that..

[TBBills Fan]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/27/when-will-deandre-hopkins-be-traded/

[section122]

21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

 

 

I want to address these 3 points specifically

 

1. The only way to produce is by getting a high volume of targets.  However Hopkins will draw attention and force defenses to not focus solely on stopping Diggs.  If they double Diggs, Hopkins can feast and vice versa.

 

2. Can't argue the fact but can add context.  He missed the first 6 games from a PED suspension (non-injury) and the last 2 he likely would have played if there was anything worth playing for.  The season was lost no reason to risk further injury.

 

3. The beauty of this move is that it would allow the Bills to move players around.  Gabe, Hopkins, and Diggs can all be on the field with Diggs operating out of the slot.  So this move would give them a legitimate slot guy.

[BillsVet]

43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

What is the NFL story for the next 3 months if DHop gets traded tonight?   The only story left then is WHEN Lamar signs with Baltimore.   No other likely big name trade candidates........no QB's pondering retirement.   The NFL kinda' needs DHop to not get traded until June at least. 

 

Does this mean that you don't expect Marshawn to drive into someone on Chippewa then? 

 

That was a busy June 2008. 

[Codyny13]

21 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

Pay no mind to having 4 different starting QBs in 2022 and still popping up 64 rec for 717yds in 9 games.  

 

 

The guy hadn’t missed a game in any season either I don’t believe until he tore his mcl in 2021. Now he’s injury prone 🤷🏼‍♂️. The guy is still a stud. Most likely took peds or some banned substance in hopes of recovering sooner. Gets popped, then comes back and has over 700 yards in 9 games with backup bums.

[Gregg]

Just now, section122 said:

 

I want to address these 3 points specifically

 

1. The only way to produce is by getting a high volume of targets.  However Hopkins will draw attention and force defenses to not focus solely on stopping Diggs.  If they double Diggs, Hopkins can feast and vice versa.

 

2. Can't argue the fact but can add context.  He missed the first 6 games from a PED suspension (non-injury) and the last 2 he likely would have played if there was anything worth playing for.  The season was lost no reason to risk further injury.

 

3. The beauty of this move is that it would allow the Bills to move players around.  Gabe, Hopkins, and Diggs can all be on the field with Diggs operating out of the slot.  So this move would give them a legitimate slot guy.

 

I think Davis would benefit the most. He would then be WR-3 and would probably have a monster year with Diggs and Hopkins getting the opposing teams top corners.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, FluffHead said:

Dhop in a pick swap then Josh Downs at 34

 

I'm not sure I see them drafting a pure slot if they trade for Hopkins.  

 

This coming year, with Diggs - Davis - Hopkins, along with Shakir and Harty both being inside/outside guys, Diggs would likely be featured a ton in the slot.  

 

And while Diggs game should age well, as he gets older, he likely becomes more and more of a slot option.  

 

[TBBills Fan]

Dhop and Davis outside, Diggs in the slot and Knox at TE.....

 

 

That sounds like a lot of firepower......

 

LFG

[Heitz]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Davis had 93 targets in a full season. Dhop had 96 targets in 9 games. Huge difference 

 

He also caught 67% of 'em as opposed to 51% of 'em...

[Beast]

The Bills can either figure out a way to bring Hopkins in and compete for a championship or don’t and hope to win our division and not take 3rd.

 

I could see it being that much of a difference.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Beast

[julian]

31 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Just say no.

 

 

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

He will be 31 when the season starts. Was busted for PEDs and has started getting injured. Big no thank you.

 

19 games combined over the past two seasons.

 

IMO Buffalo needed to get a legitimate slot guy to replace the Bease, not an outside guy to replace Davis.

 

Last year Davis had 93 targets, DHOP had 96.

 

Davis had 100+ more yards, more than double the TDs, a much higher YPC average and the same number of first downs generated compared to DHOP.

 

 

 

Davis also had Allen at QB and Hopkins had a midget with a gaming addiction.

[mrags]

[gobills404]

59 minutes ago, B-Man said:

DHop only has any production at this point in his career because of his high volume of targets.

 

 

So getting open all the time is a bad thing now?

[Nineforty]

watch the entire Cardinals highlight video they put out for Hopkins for this past season.  I saw a receiver with elite ball skills/hands, one who knows where to sit in zones, and one that would make this team better.

 

I also was unimpressed with his lack of explosiveness/speed, but he makes up for it with his elite ability to make contested catches. But I wasn't blown away or thinking he is a huge upgrade over what we have.

 

All in all, I'm in if they decide he is worth the draft capital, but I don't view him in the same way I thought I would. And all this based on one highlight video, so a huge caveat there. 

[BillsGuyInMalta]

 

[Milanos Milano]

5 minutes ago, BillsGuyInMalta said:

 

Hopkins is basically a Bill at this point. He’s already alluded to as much with his glowing responses, provoked or randomly. He is not picking Lamar over Allen. 

[mikemac2001]

9 minutes ago, BillsGuyInMalta said:

 

Funny how the article on his twitter goes to his website 

 

https://t.co/7wakkoSLB0

Edited April 27, 2023 by mikemac2001

[Radar]

10 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Hopkins is basically a Bill at this point. He’s already alluded to as much with his glowing responses, provoked or randomly. He is not picking Lamar over Allen. 

Except he lost the right to pick. PED' suspension stripped that. They can trade him anywhere they want.

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Radar said:

Except he lost the right to pick. PED' suspension stripped that. They can trade him anywhere they want.

And the rejoinder to this objection has also been talked about. He still has to agree to any restructure on the contract that might be necessary for teams to fit him under the cap. He does have some say in where he ends up.

[KingBoots8]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

 

Does this mean that you don't expect Marshawn to drive into someone on Chippewa then? 

 

That was a busy June 2008. 

Ahhhhhh the good old days. I definitely bought a shirt in the parking lot that year that said “Marshawn can hit whoever the **** he wants.”

[Radar]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

And the rejoinder to this objection has also been talked about. He still has to agree to any restructure on the contract that might be necessary for teams to fit him under the cap. He does have some say in where he ends up.

Good point.

[TBBills Fan]

we have 15 pages to go or Big Baller Beane is not going to make this deal

 

LFG

[Special K]

1 hour ago, FluffHead said:

Dhop in a pick swap then Josh Downs at 34

 

I'm thinking Darnell Washington at pick 34 if the "D-Hop pick swap" happens.

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

I'm thinking Darnell Washington at pick 34 if the "D-Hop pick swap" happens.

I'd love it, but I suspect he might go late first and somehow I doubt Beane takes TE over D if they make the trade.

[KDIGGZ]

4 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

I'm thinking Darnell Washington at pick 34 if the "D-Hop pick swap" happens.

Jack Campbell. We have a glaring need at MLB

[Special K]

4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Jack Campbell. We have a glaring need at MLB

I could be wrong, but I think at least one of the three MLB's(Campbell, Sanders, Simpson) will still be available at pick 59, plus there are some mid-round MLB's that could be selected with pick 91.

[JohnNord]

Just now, Special K said:

I could be wrong, but I think at least one of the three MLB's(Campbell, Sanders, Simpson) will still be available at pick 59, plus there are some mid-round MLB's that could be selected with pick 91.

Yeah I think would really like to draft a MLB but they know it’s bad value at #27.

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:

Jack Campbell. We have a glaring need at MLB

Trenton Simpson is a better choice, imo. His ceiling is higher and I think he's a closer replacement for Edmunds' role. Campbell is very easy to root for and I'll hope he is better than I suppose if selected, but just now I'm irritated by the large consensus in his favor. I'm not seeing the player many of you do and I suspect the intangibles are overriding what is actually on tape.