Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 From a pure football standpoint, if Pittsburgh makes the playoffs I would vote for Tomlin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Forget coach of the year, he should be NFL man of the year. Not sure if this was posted earlier or in another thread but per Zac Taylor: "When I got over there, the first thing he said was, 'I need to be at the hospital for Damar, and I shouldn't be coaching this game,'" Taylor recalled to reporters on Wednesday. Wow! I am blown away by how much clarity he has on the big picture and his love for his players. Proud he is our coach. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35379644/bengals-zac-taylor-praises-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-actions 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 McDermott has done a fantastic job navigating turmoil this season. But there are more deserving coaches already mentioned in this thread based on on-field product/success/improvement. Not everything hinges on feel good sentiments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Kyle Shanahan is a lock for coach of the year. He's down to his 3rd QB, Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy, a rookie 7th round pick and all the 49ers do is win. McDermott is OUR coach of the year but in the NFL it's Shanahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 That just emotions speaking. That's ok. Professionally, you don't get COY for a singular event. Coaches like Brian Daboll and Doug Pederson are more deserving for the body of work they've done this NFL season. Kyle Shanahan is also going to get votes for the miracle performances at the QB spot. Losing Lance, and then getting Jimmy G in there with success despite the troubled relationship with the team, and then when that failed, coaching up a 7th round draft pick and that player also being successful. I don't think McDermott would win COY even if the Bills advance to the SB, dominate it and win it. He coaches a loaded squad. He's battling expectations that the Bills are supposed to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Part of me loves it, part of me feels like it would feel like a pity award, but you know what, it can both be deserved and receiver some pity. Its both traumatic, and has been a nightmare of a coaching year. I really think the usual way would go to Siriani, but Seams 100% deserving. i think he'd take a ton of pride in winning it too. Im sold How would it be a pity award?? He has the Bills at 12-3 amidst all the turmoil this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I believe I've read the NFL as some point each year gives out awards for Trainer of the year, hot dog vendor of the year, etc. I'll be very surprised if Denny Kellington doesn't win that award for athletic trainer based on what is being stated in his role Monday night. I do wonder too how much help the Bengals athletic staff provided Monday night on the field. With normal injuries the opposing team staff stays away, if it's NE Belichick will come after them and chase them away. But this was different, I've read they assisted, but didn't see any details or recall seeing them on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills19 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: As some of you know I’ve been pretty critical of McD. I’ve called him a turnaround specialist but not a championship coach, have criticized his approach to roster construction, and have been displeased (to say the least) with some of the coaching strategy (X’s and O’s) and gameday decision-making. I thought he was a bit of a phony; I may have even referred to him as a gym teacher. And while prior to this weekend there certainly were some challenges to navigate this season like a slew of injuries, a blizzard relocation, and some funky scheduling quirks, those things didn’t strike me as too far beyond the norm for an NFL team and its head coach. That all changed for me this week. First it was watching him pace the sideline when Damar was on the ground - you could see him muttering to himself (“okay, okay, okay”), as he tried to figure out how to lead a group of men through an unprecedented situation on the national stage. He collected himself and took his team off of the field. Since then, the stories that have come out - McD telling Taylor he needed to be at the hospital instead of coaching the rest of the game, and just generally staying calm and putting his players first - have just floored me. Sean McDermott is the embodiment of leadership. And great leadership - the good kind (the reluctant kind IMO) - is both rare and difficult. He is the ultimate leader of men and there is no one more deserving of NFL Coach of the Year than him. Not that I have a vote, but if I did, it would be a no-brainer choice. No matter how the season ends up. If Nick Siriani wins Coach of the Year over Sean McDermott, the whole thing is a joke. That is all. Off my soapbox. so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton 1 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 No offense to Daboll or Sirianni, but no NFC coach deserves COY for putting up wins in that sorry conference. We all know that you can only play the teams on your schedule, but we don't have to hand out awards for it either. 21 minutes ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton It's never too early to be drunk, but it's too early to be this drunk. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Think about his leadership and perspective when he had to handle the Matt Ariza situation, and how he put human feelings over football through every step. I kinda forgot about that, but I was super proud of having him as our head coach because of how he handled that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think hes a really good leader of men...but as an actual coach....hes just solid for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Because of the adversity overcome, how well it was overcome, coupled with the Bill's excellent record, I agree: Sean McDermott should be Coach of the Year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 IMO, Daboll deserves this award, HANDS DOWN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nedboy7 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton A terrible coach who is leading one of the best teams in the NFL. Just pure garbage take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton Take a break and have your mom nuke you a hot pocket. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 17 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Only if he wins the Super Bowl. As of now it is Sirianni. I think they vote before the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Greg S said: If we keep it football related, then Daboll should win. To get 9 wins and a WC with that team is remarkable. They do have some talent on defense, but they suffered injuries on that side of the ball. On offense it's basically Barkley and nothing else. I agree with this. Daboll and his staff has done a hell of a job for being a first year head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I think they vote before the playoffs. You're right, they'll be to be in the mix, even so i don't see it with what happened in Philadelphia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 And it's not like McDermott only overcame incredible adversity - his team also kicked a bunch of arse all season long, which to me says he's doubly qualified for COY. I also would be perfectly happy to see him share it with Taylor, because you could say all the same things about him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 The Bills will win the Super Bowl and McDermott is the coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills19 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Take a break and have your mom nuke you a hot pocket. Ohhhh ok. So because I don’t like his coaching and want a championship that means I live in my moms basement? What a great take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 He already is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Philly has 3 losses just like us. We have a better point differential and we played a much harder schedule. McD had to overcome a lot with injuries, scheduling and weather issues, and this situation with Hamlin - which tested his leadership beyond a normal football season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I think two factors help voters in choosing coach of the year. One is overachieving and the other is the team looking to be ready for a deep playoff run at the end of the season. I think it goes to Shanahan in San Francisco. He's got his team poised to make a deep playoff run with a third string 7the round draft pick at QB. Pederson and Daboll have made a strong case, but I don't think they go too far in the playoffs if they make it there at all. I like McDermott and think he should get consideration, but the Bills were widely expected to contend for a Super Bowl, and aside from the psychological challenges of dealing with Damar Hamlin having cardiac arrest have not suffered more than the expected injury issues. It's tough to overachieve when you start out with those expectations, and as I said, I think overachieving weighs heavily in the minds of voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) On 1/4/2023 at 6:49 PM, Coach Tuesday said: As some of you know I’ve been pretty critical of McD. I’ve called him a turnaround specialist but not a championship coach, have criticized his approach to roster construction, and have been displeased (to say the least) with some of the coaching strategy (X’s and O’s) and gameday decision-making. I thought he was a bit of a phony; I may have even referred to him as a gym teacher. And while prior to this weekend there certainly were some challenges to navigate this season like a slew of injuries, a blizzard relocation, and some funky scheduling quirks, those things didn’t strike me as too far beyond the norm for an NFL team and its head coach. That all changed for me this week. First it was watching him pace the sideline when Damar was on the ground - you could see him muttering to himself (“okay, okay, okay”), as he tried to figure out how to lead a group of men through an unprecedented situation on the national stage. He collected himself and took his team off of the field. Since then, the stories that have come out - McD telling Taylor he needed to be at the hospital instead of coaching the rest of the game, and just generally staying calm and putting his players first - have just floored me. Sean McDermott is the embodiment of leadership. And great leadership - the good kind (the reluctant kind IMO) - is both rare and difficult. He is the ultimate leader of men and there is no one more deserving of NFL Coach of the Year than him. Not that I have a vote, but if I did, it would be a no-brainer choice. No matter how the season ends up. If Nick Siriani wins Coach of the Year over Sean McDermott, the whole thing is a joke. That is all. Off my soapbox. HOLY S**T YOU DON"T WANT TO FIRE HIM ??? SIR PLEASE STAY AS CLOSE TO THAT PIPE AS YOU CAN IT SEEMS TO HAVE CALMED YOU DOWN . I can't for the life of me understand how people like you can follow this team as long as you have to go through the SEVENTEEN YR drought with all the different coaches & losing & finally get a guy like McD & Beane and still B**CH about them it baffles me !! I would imagine you were one that also wanted Beane fired too . Every season they have had this team in the play offs and and your still not happy i just don't get it at all !!!!!!!!!!! Well let's hope that you stay with the mind set because i for one hope Beane & McD both retire as employees of the Buffalo Bills ... Edited January 6, 2023 by T master 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Sean should have received COY years ago for fixing a perennially broken organization and maintaining the turn around, the guy has been by passed by others, some who were not as worthy, jmo. GO BILLS!!! 🙏 for DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 hours ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton Sean Payton (60%) has a worse playoff appearance record than Sean McDermott (80%) and he had a Drew Brees with at least 6 to 19 years experience his entire tenure. McDermotts single season missing the post season was Allen's rookie year. There is no reason to believe Payton would do better outside of grass is always greener on the other side. What we don't have will always be attractive to you guys for some reason, but sorry, the grass is pretty green over here so i think we will just stay put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 11 hours ago, GoBills19 said: Ohhhh ok. So because I don’t like his coaching and want a championship that means I live in my moms basement? What a great take Well then…, So in your mind, all coaches like Andy Reid etc suck except for the one time they won? asking for a friend, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 20 hours ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton Would you care to further extrapolate your stance that “he’s been a terrible coach” with some evidence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Would you care to further extrapolate your stance that “he’s been a terrible coach” with some evidence? We should all get the popcorn out for this one. Gonna be a doozy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: We should all get the popcorn out for this one. Gonna be a doozy. Unfortunately I feel like we won’t get a response 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 20 hours ago, GoBills19 said: so he should get coach of the year just because he was concerned about an injured player? that makes no sense. he's been a terrible coach and i hope he's fired the minute the season ends and we hire sean peyton You can't really believe this. There is 0% chance of this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, T master said: HOLY S**T YOU DON"T WANT TO FIRE HIM ??? SIR PLEASE STAY AS CLOSE TO THAT PIPE AS YOU CAN IT SEEMS TO HAVE CALMED YOU DOWN . I can't for the life of me understand how people like you can follow this team as long as you have to go through the SEVENTEEN YR drought with all the different coaches & losing & finally get a guy like McD & Beane and still B**CH about them it baffles me !! I would imagine you were one that also wanted Beane fired too . Every season they have had this team in the play offs and and your still not happy i just don't get it at all !!!!!!!!!!! Well let's hope that you stay with the mind set because i for one hope Beane & McD both retire as employees of the Buffalo Bills ... I know reading comprehension isn’t isn’t your thing but this is a new low point for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 hours ago, Chaos said: The Bills will win the Super Bowl and McDermott is the coach of the year. Pretty sure it gets voted on before the SB. Could be wrong? and he definitely is in the running. Lot of really good candidates though. Harbaugh deserves to be up there with their injuries. Peterson could be if the Jags make the playoffs. Tomlin does too. Campbell and O’Connell (frauds but still) also are in the running. I think what will “hurt” McDermott is the Bills were the SB favorites before the season and have been relatively healthy. That said, he deserves so much credit for being a great leader and sounds like the perfect guy for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Sean should have received COY years ago for fixing a perennially broken organization and maintaining the turn around, the guy has been by passed by others, some who were not as worthy, jmo. GO BILLS!!! 🙏 for DH Don, I agree he was snubbed in 2020, and even 2021. They vote on these things before the playoffs and the hand McD has made it through this year is admirable. I too don’t have a vote, but sgree he deserves it. If we win Sunday, and we will he’ll have another 13-3 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Well then…, So in your mind, all coaches like Andy Reid etc suck except for the one time they won? asking for a friend, The ring culture is so stupid. It’s why nba players join stacked teams so they can win a ring. But as crazy as it is, Reid used to get destroyed for not winning a SB. McDermott is a very good coach and we are lucky to have him. However, you weirdly get punished for being a good coach/ player if you don’t win a championship. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: I think two factors help voters in choosing coach of the year. One is overachieving and the other is the team looking to be ready for a deep playoff run at the end of the season. I think it goes to Shanahan in San Francisco. He's got his team poised to make a deep playoff run with a third string 7the round draft pick at QB. Pederson and Daboll have made a strong case, but I don't think they go too far in the playoffs if they make it there at all. I like McDermott and think he should get consideration, but the Bills were widely expected to contend for a Super Bowl, and aside from the psychological challenges of dealing with Damar Hamlin having cardiac arrest have not suffered more than the expected injury issues. It's tough to overachieve when you start out with those expectations, and as I said, I think overachieving weighs heavily in the minds of voters. True, it often goes to a coach that turns around a bad or mediocre team. It does not have to, and if you look at it many of those winners did not sustain the high performance. Vrabel won it last year, Stafanski the year prior. Both are struggling with mediocre teams - one turn around season is nice but it should not be the sole criteria. McD also turned around a team that is still in the elite class of the league, climbing up without regression. He overcame huge obstacles this year. McD should win in a landslide. Edited January 6, 2023 by Bob in STL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The ring culture is so stupid. It’s why nba players join stacked teams so they can win a ring. But as crazy as it is, Reid used to get destroyed for not winning a SB. McDermott is a very good coach and we are lucky to have him. However, you weirdly get punished for being a good coach/ player if you don’t win a championship. Very strange. Yet some are awarded with lesser accomplishments, sadly, it’s more of a fashion show / popularity contest than an award based on the nitty gritty and merit, as it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 10 hours ago, Bob in STL said: True, it often goes to a coach that turns around a bad or mediocre team. It does not have to, and if you look at it many of those winners did not sustain the high performance. Vrabel won it last year, Stafanski the year prior. Both are struggling with mediocre teams - one turn around season is nice but it should not be the sole criteria. McD also turned around a team that is still in the elite class of the league, climbing up without regression. He overcame huge obstacles this year. McD should win in a landslide. If voters consider team performance over a multi-year period, I agree. Is there a precedent for them doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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