Chris Simms says whoever Tre is covering will be open

[Einstein]

I really respect Chris Simms as he is the anti-average-talking-head-that-vomits-words-out-of-his-mouth type of analyst, so i’m a little concerned. Has Tre been that bad!?

 

 

[Seoulofstone]

Personally I’m shocked that he isn’t dominating in his first couple of weeks back from an ACL. Nah not really. This should provide Tre some excellent motivation. That’s good for the Bills.

[RiotAct]

he hasn’t been the absolute shutdown corner that he was from 2019 - Thanksgiving of 2021.

 

 The Bears’ one long completion on Saturday was at his expense.  He turned around and found the ball nicely while it was in the air, then for some reason turned his head back towards the WR and became a spectator.   Not good.

 

I think he’s still rounding into form, but it’s good to see hin back out there despite some struggles.

[97bills]

Yea I saw this last night , and simms rarely talks down about Buffalo. But it is different from what we’re used to hearing about white. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say go after 27. Maybe he isn’t 💯 yet, or he never will be. I don’t no !!! But I do no one thing every CB will be tested in this game. This is we’re we need von , if our young guys can’t get there it might be a long game. I would love to see Ed destroy the middle. GO Bills 

[34-78-83]

Tre's technique out there looks excellent. He's a half step slow right now but beyond that , no issues. Baldies breakdowns from 2 weeks ago confirms some of his very good play. Simms has gone full Burrow of late and everything that comes with that. (Maybe Josh broke up with him)

[dorquemada]

So give Tre a little help over the top, play a 4-2-5 alignment and force Burrow to take the short stuff, or more likely, let him go bombs away.  They'll get their passing yards but even a single turnover could well make the difference in this game

[HOUSE]

Not buying any of that Tre  Bull sh**

He also said there is no chance of running on the Bengals.....thats just plain stupid

The guy is a Cincinnati Bengals  freaking homer

Annoying Askhole 😬

 

 

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Edited December 29, 2022 by HOUSE

[34-78-83]

2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

So give Tre a little help over the top, play a 4-2-5 alignment and force Burrow to take the short stuff, or more likely, let him go bombs away.  They'll get their passing yards but even a single turnover could well make the difference in this game

We literally always play in a 4-2-5 alignment (well ok, 99% of the time)

[The Wiz]

 

 

[dave mcbride]

Tre is s-l-o-w right now, and it’s visible. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s running a 4.7 40 at the moment. He definitely makes up for some of it with instinct and strong knowledge, but it’s a problem. 

[HOUSE]

4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Tre is s-l-o-w right now, and it’s visible. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s running a 4.7 40 at the moment. He definitely makes up for some of it with instinct and strong knowledge, but it’s a problem. 

Tre nearly intercepted 2 passes last week.

[Scott7975]

Tre isnt up to full form of his all pro self but he has still done a good job.  Yeah, he has allowed some plays but so has every corner in the league.

[John from Riverside]

13 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Not buying any of that Tre  Bull sh**

He also said there is no chance of running on the Bengals.....thats just plain stupid

The guy is a Cincinnati Bengals  freaking homer

Annoying Askhole 😬

 

 

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He sure sounded like it although he has been pretty high on the bills this year to

Just now, Scott7975 said:

Tre isnt up to full form of his all pro self but he has still done a good job.  Yeah, he has allowed some plays but so has every corner in the league.

So far it has been a combination of giving up some players, and making plays what white has not done is give up touchdowns

[dave mcbride]

8 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Tre nearly intercepted 2 passes last week.

In a windstorm game against a bad throwing qb with no receivers. Watch his actual play: he is a step slower and it is OBVIOUS. 

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He sure sounded like it although he has been pretty high on the bills this year to

So far it has been a combination of giving up some players, and making plays what white has not done is give up touchdowns

He gave up a TD to Tyreek Hill!

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

In a windstorm game against a bad throwing qb with no receivers. Watch his actual play: he is a step slower and it is OBVIOUS. 

He gave up a TD to Tyreek Hill!

Yep, you’re right he did give up that one to Tyreek Hill

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Tre isnt up to full form of his all pro self but he has still done a good job.  Yeah, he has allowed some plays but so has every corner in the league.

It’s less about him being a starting-caliber player than about him being currently too slow to play man against the Jamar Chases of the world. He is not 100 percent. He has said so himself. 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

It’s less about him being a starting-caliber player than about him being currently too slow to play man against the Jamar Chases of the world. He is not 100 percent. He has said so himself. 

Why would we play man against chase any way whenever we are a zone team if we need somebody to play man coverage we have Elam

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Why would we play man against chase any way whenever we are a zone team if we need somebody to play man coverage we have Elam

We are a matchup zone team (where zone morphs into man) that occasionally plays man. Elam showed vs George Pickens that he’s not ready to play man against top-end receivers (yet). The Bengals have very, very good receivers. The Bears currently have the worst receiving corps the league given the injuries.

 

Keep in mind that zone results in a lot of easy completions, especially for highly accurate qbs with multiple good options. That’s Burrow for you. Lael Collins going down is huge given that it gives Rousseau an advantage. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by dave mcbride

[Ramza86]

52 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I really respect Chris Simms as he is the anti-average-talking-head-that-vomits-words-out-of-his-mouth type of analyst, so i’m a little concerned. Has Tre been that bad!?

 

 

 

 

Tre is running below his usual speed. Hes not 100% yet. He still makes good decisions, but his feet arent moving like he wants them to.

 

Thats why I was glad he came back when he did, he needs to keep running on that knee to get back to 100% before the playoffs

[BillsBy50]

11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

In a windstorm game against a bad throwing qb with no receivers. Watch his actual play: he is a step slower and it is OBVIOUS. 

He gave up a TD to Tyreek Hill!

LOL serious? If we are gauging CB talent off facing Cheetah then everybody in the fn league is bad and a step slow. Come on now!

[Donuts and Doritos]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

I really respect Chris Simms as he is the anti-average-talking-head-that-vomits-words-out-of-his-mouth type of analyst, so i’m a little concerned. Has Tre been that bad!?

 

 

 

Joe Bascaglia w/ the Athletic has been saying the same thing since Tre came back. Said the All-22 shows he's slow, has trouble staying w/ receivers and is holding a lot, but not getting called. He said it jumps out on the coaches film & predicted coaches are going to start attacking him & he's going to get burned & called more for the holding. Hope he gets back to form before Monday. 🤞

[Big Blitz]

Love the low key bulletin board motivational material he’s given us.  

[Charles Romes]

Bengals passing O is more dink and dunk than you think. Tre can hold up in that scenario. 

[dma0034]

Simms also said that it isn't Tre's fault and that he is coming back from an injury. That said: he's still really good imo.

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, BillsBy50 said:

LOL serious? If we are gauging CB talent off facing Cheetah then everybody in the fn league is bad and a step slow. Come on now!

Are you watching the games? He was a step slow on virtually every pass directed his way vs the Jets. He was slow on the deep completion in the Bears game, not getting into good double coverage position because he was chugging down the field at a 4.8 clip. He still anticipates well and has great instincts, but in man against better receivers — and Chase is as good as Hill — he is a liability. They have to mask him right now through zone coverage. They used to let him be their one man guy, but he’s not up to it at the moment. But don’t take it from me — White essentially said so himself.

3 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

Joe Bascaglia w/ the Athletic has been saying the same thing since Tre came back. Said the All-22 shows he's slow, has trouble staying w/ receivers and is holding a lot, but not getting called. He said it jumps out on the coaches film & predicted coaches are going to start attacking him & he's going to get burned & called more for the holding. Hope he gets back to form before Monday. 🤞

Yes. He held all game vs Miami and got away with it.

[bouds]

Forget about his straight line speed, he never had much of that to begin with, but where Tre excelled was short area quickness and changing of direction.  You can't run past someone if you don't get by them, and Tre's short are quickness and ability to stay in phase with the receiver helped any deep speed deficiencies.  That's his real issue right now, changing direction on cuts.  

[78thealltimegreat]

This isn’t a surprise ACL tears always take 2 years to fully recover. After 1 you can play but it takes another year to be where you where at prior to the injury he’ll be fine. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

35 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Tre nearly intercepted 2 passes last week.

Slow players with good instincts intercept passes too. Interceptions aren't a sign of speed. 

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, 97bills said:

Yea I saw this last night , and simms rarely talks down about Buffalo. But it is different from what we’re used to hearing about white. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say go after 27. Maybe he isn’t 💯 yet, or he never will be. I don’t no !!! But I do no one thing every CB will be tested in this game. This is we’re we need von , if our young guys can’t get there it might be a long game. I would love to see Ed destroy the middle. GO Bills 

What you don't no is that know is spelled like this 😂

[TBBills]

I only listen to him AFTER the games are over, not before they are played. 

[MJS]

And why would the Bills not be able to run the ball against the Bengals?

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

And why would the Bills not be able to run the ball against the Bengals?

2 good DT's and stout LB's.

 

It's really the secondary that we should be able to exploit.  Especially since their pass rush is banged up too.

[78thealltimegreat]

7 minutes ago, MJS said:

And why would the Bills not be able to run the ball against the Bengals?

Yeh listening to him he doesn’t seem to think the Bills have much of a chance in this game. Almost like it was the Bills who almost blew a 22 point lead to the Pats and not the Bengals. 

[fasteddie]

47 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

In a windstorm game against a bad throwing qb with no receivers. Watch his actual play: he is a step slower and it is OBVIOUS. 

He gave up a TD to Tyreek Hill!

Who hasn't? 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

Although hoping I was wrong, I didn't expect Tre to be back to close to his old self until late next season. It seems to me that most ACL injuries, even though players come back in one year, it takes two years to be back to close to their old level.

[djp14150]

It takes time to recover from such an injury.  This comment is crap.

[MJS]

14 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

2 good DT's and stout LB's.

 

It's really the secondary that we should be able to exploit.  Especially since their pass rush is banged up too.

Sure, but it's not like they have the best run defense of all time. They are ranked in the top 10, but of course the Bills will be able to run it some of the time.

 

Their defensive ends are banged up too. Try to get Cook going on the outside runs.

56 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He gave up a TD to Tyreek Hill!

Oh, it's the end of the world! The fastest player in the league scored a TD on Tre White!

 

Hill does that to everyone.

[Nitro]

Simms has a good point  White has not bounced back.  Ha has made a few mental errors but physically he is still on the mend.  Cincinnati will see if he is up to the task.  Chase is a load.  

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

He sure sounded like it although he has been pretty high on the bills this year to

So far it has been a combination of giving up some players, and making plays what white has not done is give up touchdowns

So, the Bills can't run, the best CB can't cover, Josh is off  and Diggs is the only offensive target.

The betting line is Buffalo by one and a half

None this makes any sense too me , get a real job...

Edited December 29, 2022 by HOUSE

[balln]

20 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Yeh listening to him he doesn’t seem to think the Bills have much of a chance in this game. Almost like it was the Bills who almost blew a 22 point lead to the Pats and not the Bengals. 

Yet simms picked bills on PfT