3 way tie for conference lead possibility

[ehfeuh57]

What happens if we lose to Cinci and KC  somehow drops a game and we all end up tied at the end of season?

[zow2]

I would think Cincinnati would get the 1 seed because they beat KC and Buffalo?

[Boatdrinks]

Bills are 2 seed I believe 

[Einstein]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I would think Cincinnati would get the 1 seed because they beat KC and Buffalo?

 

Correct.

[BigAl2526]

I affirm what zow and Boatdrinks are saying.  The first tiebreaker is head to head results.  Buffalo has the tiebreaker over KC already.  A win over Buffalo gives Cincinnati the tiebreaker over Buffalo, and they already have it over KC.  Had these three teams not played each other, there are a bunch of other tiebreakers they can go to in order to determine the seeding in the playoffs.

[BringBackFlutie]

Losing to cinci is not an option. 

[KDIGGZ]

The real bummer would be losing to Cinci and KC continues to win which is the most likely scenario. We go from 1 to 3 and our 2nd and 3rd playoff game are likely on the road. In other words, this is a BIG GAME

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

If KC loses a game and we were to lose to Cincy. Cincy gets the 1 seed as they would be 2-0 against the Chiefs and us. We would get the 2 seed as we would be 1-1 against the Chiefs and Bengals and KC would get the 3 because they just......well, they just suck.

 

 

 

[BLeonard]

As others have said, Cincy would get the #1 if all three teams are tied and the Bengals beat the Bills.

 

The easy way to look at it is, if the Bills beat Cincinnati, they clinch no lower than the #2 seed.  The game against New England would then be for the #1 seed, regardless of what KC and Cincinnati do.

 

The good news is, even if the Bills lose to Cincinnati, they can still get the #1 seed with a win over NE and losses by KC (@ LV) and Cin (vs BLT) in Week 18.  Even a loss by either team would give the Bills the #2 seed.

[BigAl2526]

7 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

The real bummer would be losing to Cinci and KC continues to win which is the most likely scenario. We go from 1 to 3 and our 2nd and 3rd playoff game are likely on the road. In other words, this is a BIG GAME

You are correct.  The game against Cincinnati is critical for that reason. 

[Dr.Sack]

Win vs the Bengals so we don’t have to lament the 3 earlier winnable losses. But while we are at it we are one snap and 1 yard push from this game not really mattering. 

[Warcodered]

21 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

The real bummer would be losing to Cinci and KC continues to win which is the most likely scenario. We go from 1 to 3 and our 2nd and 3rd playoff game are likely on the road. In other words, this is a BIG GAME

How ridiculous is that, the Bills could be 13-4 and be the 3 seed, so much for the rest of the AFC West helping us out.

[chongli]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

How ridiculous is that, the Bills could be 13-4 and be the 3 seed, so much for the rest of the AFC West helping us out.

 

And last year Tennessee got the number 1 seed at just 12-5.

[Real McClappy]

Just win out!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

As it stands now Bills get they bye and Miami would play KC and Chargers would play Bengals.  Those could be two upsets which would then set up Bills Miami 3rd game in division round, and Chargers then beat the winner of Baltimore/Jags.  All of this sets up perfectly for my prediction of Bills Chargers in AFC Championship in Buffalo.  To be clear I had Chargers winning the AFC West not a WC team, but I still like my chances.  

 

For the life of me I can't remember who I picked in the NFC.  I'm too lazy to go back and search for it.  Maybe Dallas / Tampa in NFC Championship???  

[Buffalo03]

16 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

As it stands now Bills get they bye and Miami would play KC and Chargers would play Bengals.  Those could be two upsets which would then set up Bills Miami 3rd game in division round, and Chargers then beat the winner of Baltimore/Jags.  All of this sets up perfectly for my prediction of Bills Chargers in AFC Championship in Buffalo.  To be clear I had Chargers winning the AFC West not a WC team, but I still like my chances.  

 

For the life of me I can't remember who I picked in the NFC.  I'm too lazy to go back and search for it.  Maybe Dallas / Tampa in NFC Championship???  

There is no way in hell that Grandpa Bay is making it to the championship game this year. They will be lucky to get past the wild card round

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

I would think Cincinnati would get the 1 seed because they beat KC and Buffalo?

Oh phew the nfl thought of this already… maybe something like this came up before in the 102 years it’s been around 

[John from Riverside]

It goes to head-to-head matchups basically in order to be able to have the number one seed we need to beat Cincy

[chongli]

25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It goes to head-to-head matchups basically in order to be able to have the number one seed we need to beat Cincy

 

Yeah we need to beat Cincy. But if we lost, Cincy could still lose to Baltimore Week 18 and KC would need to lose one of its final two games. Then we would still be the number one seed (assuming we bet New England in the finale).

 

[Typo]

Edited December 26, 2022 by chongli

[BLeonard]

8 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Yeah we need to beat Cincy. But if we lost, Cincy could still lose to Baltimore Week 18 and KC would need to lose of its final two games. Then we would still be the number one seed (assuming we bet New England in the finale).

KC would only need to lose one of its two games, not both.

 

Furthermore, if Denver somehow beats KC on Sunday (don't see it happening, but any given Sunday) the Bills could clinch the #1 seed with a win against Cincy on MNF.

 

Baltimore could still win the AFC North, too, who the Bills have a tiebreaker over, so they could play a factor in final seeding, too.

Edited December 26, 2022 by BLeonard

[chongli]

10 minutes ago, BLeonard said:

KC would only need to lose one of its two games, not both.

 

Furthermore, if Denver somehow beats KC on Sunday (don't see it happening, but any given Sunday) the Bills could clinch the #1 seed with a win against Cincy on MNF.

 

Baltimore could still win the AFC North, too, who the Bills have a tiebreaker over, so they could play a factor in final seeding, too.

 

Yep. [I forgot to include "one" in " "KC would need to lose of its final two games" in my original post].

[What a Tuel]

30 minutes ago, BLeonard said:

KC would only need to lose one of its two games, not both.

 

Furthermore, if Denver somehow beats KC on Sunday (don't see it happening, but any given Sunday) the Bills could clinch the #1 seed with a win against Cincy on MNF.

 

Baltimore could still win the AFC North, too, who the Bills have a tiebreaker over, so they could play a factor in final seeding, too.

 

Yes, if the Ravens beat Steelers and Bengals, then even if we lose to Bengals, Ravens win the AFC North and we have the tie breaker over them so #2 seed (I believe even if we lost both remaining games). We'd need to beat the Pats, and the Broncos or Raiders to beat the Chiefs to get #1 seed in that scenario.

 

Of course, we still want to win out and guarantee the #1 seed by controlling our own destiny though.

 

 

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Real McNasty said:

Just win out!

 

 

    Yea the Bills take care of their business so they got no excuses.  If they want to have the added bonus of the 12th man cheering them on and making it difficult for opponents then they get these two games won and done and prep for playoffs.  Anything else they need the extra game of live practice to prove they are the best team this year.  

 

 

 

 

Edited December 26, 2022 by AuntieEm

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

The real bummer would be losing to Cinci and KC continues to win which is the most likely scenario. We go from 1 to 3 and our 2nd and 3rd playoff game are likely on the road. In other words, this is a BIG GAME

 

The only other thing is which is better in terms of wild card match up? Playing the 6 seed or the 7 seed? I feel like the Chargers are the most dangerous team. They are about to get fully healthy it looks like. While the Bills and Chargers don't have much history, the Chargers always play the Chiefs to a one score game, so they clearly have the talent and ability to knock of the top three teams in the Bills, Chiefs and Bengals. 

 

Chargers are currently the six seed but I think they move up to the 5 seed by seasons end. I see the Ravens losing their last two games against the Steelers and Bengals. Would you rather play the Ravens or the Dolphins in the first round? That's a toss-up for me. Probably slight lean to the Ravens. While it would suck to have to play the Bengals on the road in the divisional round in this scenario, this scenario also most likely sends the Chargers to KC in the divisional round. I'd give the Chargers a 50/50 shot in that one. 

 

This really is a massive game this week though.

[Awwufelloff]

That Vikings game was ours, that's the one that hurts.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

22 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

That Vikings game was ours, that's the one that hurts.

No sense of looking to the past. I’m sure Chiefs fans are saying the same thing about the Colts game. Bills are in control of their destiny w/ only 2 games remaining. I’ll take that any season. 

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

The real bummer would be losing to Cinci and KC continues to win which is the most likely scenario. We go from 1 to 3 and our 2nd and 3rd playoff game are likely on the road. In other words, this is a BIG GAME

Except some the "experts" on the wall say that Josh plays better on the road because he is terrible to bad weather games.

It is interesting that the top 3 seeds in AFC will all be non-dome teams but there are only three teams with domes in AFC with two of them being share croppers with NFC teams.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

57 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

Except some the "experts" on the wall say that Josh plays better on the road because he is terrible to bad weather games.

It is interesting that the top 3 seeds in AFC will all be non-dome teams but there are only three teams with domes in AFC with two of them being share croppers with NFC teams.

I’ve got AFC 4 domes, 1 shared with NFC. 

[Kirby Jackson]

I kind of look at this game as a playoff game. If the Bills lose this week they will likely have to play in Cincy and Arrowhead to get to the Super Bowl. I don’t like those odds. If they win here, a bye is likely and the road to Arizona goes through OP in January!!

[Xwnyer]

6 hours ago, zow2 said:

I would think Cincinnati would get the 1 seed because they beat KC and Buffalo?

We end up 2nd this is why winning Monday night is critical!!!

[Kirby Jackson]

3 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

We end up 2nd this is why winning Monday night is critical!!!

Actually, the Bills would end up 3 in this scenario. They’d fall a game behind KC and a tiebreaker behind Cincy. 

[Charles Romes]

Cinci would be number 1 seed based on head to head sweep having won both games AT HOME while Bills had to play both KC and Cinci ON THE ROAD. I could see head to head result as a valid tie breaker where the win is a road win (Bills take down KC on the road) but it should not be used where the team merely holds serve at home.  Should be scored like plus/minus in hockey. 

[Adam]

I believe this gives us the top seed and eliminates KC and Cincy from the playoffs. That's my story and I'm sticking to it

[djp14150]

11 hours ago, DrDare said:

What happens if we lose to Cinci and KC  somehow drops a game and we all end up tied at the end of season?

tiebreakers are

head tohead

conferrnce revord

common games

 

KC lose to both Cincy and buffalo.

buffalo plays Cincy monday

cincy beats buffalo then they over take them and if kc loses ir becomes Cincy,buffalo, kc.

 

if kc doesn't lose then it’s kc, Cincy, Buffalo is seeding

 

buffalo beats Cincy snd kc lose buffalo secures top seed. If KC loses on Sunday, this game gets elevated to bring for the top seed and bye.

 

had KC lost a game in their last 3, and Cincy lost 1 then buffalo could have come into this monday game possible just resting players then play NE for roosted and not show the playbook to Cincy.

[Big Blitz]

11 hours ago, BLeonard said:

As others have said, Cincy would get the #1 if all three teams are tied and the Bengals beat the Bills.

 

The easy way to look at it is, if the Bills beat Cincinnati, they clinch no lower than the #2 seed.  The game against New England would then be for the #1 seed, regardless of what KC and Cincinnati do.

 

The good news is, even if the Bills lose to Cincinnati, they can still get the #1 seed with a win over NE and losses by KC (@ LV) and Cin (vs BLT) in Week 18.  Even a loss by either team would give the Bills the #2 seed.

 

The Ravens clinched a playoff spot and in this scenario the Ravens have nothing to play for.
 

The 1 seed comes down to this game.  Then of course beating NE.  

 

We’re past the window of getting help.   

[djp14150]

If Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh, then Cincy clinches division with a win

 

bari g falling behind by more than 1 game by Baltimore, week 18 balt- Cincy game is for division title.  Baltimore has all the tiebreakers and bear them earlier.

 

if buffalo loses to Cincy, thry need Cincy lose to balt, snd kc lose 1 of final 2 to regain top seed.

NewEngland beat Miami they control own fate for playoff spot.

if Jets win as well then jets/ Miami werk 18 winner would be in 2nd st 9-8 snd a WC if bills beat cheats in week 18.

 

that scenario could elevate the game toSaturday/ Sunday night

[Big Blitz]

10 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

If Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh, then Cincy clinches division with a win

 

bari g falling behind by more than 1 game by Baltimore, week 18 balt- Cincy game is for division title.  Baltimore has all the tiebreakers and bear them earlier.

 

if buffalo loses to Cincy, thry need Cincy lose to balt, snd kc lose 1 of final 2 to regain top seed.

NewEngland beat Miami they control own fate for playoff spot.

if Jets win as well then jets/ Miami werk 18 winner would be in 2nd st 9-8 snd a WC if bills beat cheats in week 18.

 

that scenario could elevate the game toSaturday/ Sunday night

 

Ok that’s right Baltimore beat them.  

[Big Blitz]

Well regardless.  The Chiefs get the two most hapless coaches the last 2 games.  The Raiders lost Chandler Jones.  
 

Chiefs aren’t losing.  So we need to take care of business.  

[Utah John]

I had a post about this a couple of days ago, where I basically said the Bills must beat Cincinnati in Cincinnati, either on Monday night or deep in the playoffs.  The reward is much greater for doing it Monday.

[YoloinOhio]

If we win this week can we rest starters against the pats or no?