Bad Things Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Congrats to all. Matt Milano, you should have started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The AFC is QB rich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: No Milano? No, you have to order it separately. You get: soup, entree, dessert. 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s unfathomable he got any votes 7 hours ago, vincec said: My favorite Seinfeld character. Milano should have put the balm on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Milano got screwed Morse is good but he is not first team ProBowl center Bass is having a great year but Tucker has the name recognition and the nasty stare 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Granted I don’t follow as closely as I used to, but I don’t even know who Tyler Matakevich and Reid Ferguson are, so I’m shocked my made 3rd alternate. In fact I didn’t even know they had third alternate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Wiz said: For your reading pleasure, check the replies. It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs? How do these people actually function in society? It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers. Edited December 22, 2022 by stevewin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Too bad Tua didn’t make it. It would have greatly increased the price of his 5th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 14 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: No Milano? Not enough sexy stats (ints, sacks). Just brilliant play. Lazy Pro Bowl voters take the easy way out. 11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: How'd the Chiefs get 8 players on the squad? (to the tune of Fiddler on the Roof): TRADITION! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, stevewin said: It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs? How do these people actually function in society? It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers. Wait, what? The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order. No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys. Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I don't have any complaints about Mitch Morse's play, but is he really the 2nd best center in the AFC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 TJ Watt misses 9 games and get in....not surprised but its just a popularity thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 16 hours ago, stevestojan said: Gilliam over Oliver is special. Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position. There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is > Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there? That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant. Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous. He is not sniffing pro-bowl play. Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, IndyMark said: Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous. He is not sniffing pro-bowl play. Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player. I was with you until this last line. Anyone who actually watches all of the games could never come away thinking he was a "below average player." IMO, he's clearly an above average player. But yes, he doesn't get enough sacks to be considered among the top-3 who were selected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsFanSD said: Wait, what? The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order. No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys. Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is. Burrow is so underrated. Additionally, he has weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, IndyMark said: Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position. There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is > Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there? That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant. Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous. He is not sniffing pro-bowl play. Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player. ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, balln said: ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud its like youre a fan boy with rose colored glasses. 66 pff grade. hes ok. he has flashes. but hes not better than simmons (83), dex lawrence, brian burns, or christian wilkins (pff 83). wilkins and simmons 6'4 . miss st and clemson. I just want to know who thought ed oliver would be a better pro on bills scouting Edited December 22, 2022 by balln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, balln said: its like youre a fan boy with rose colored glasses. 66 pff grade. hes ok. he has flashes. but hes not better than simmons, dex lawrence, brian burns, or christian wilkins (pff 83). Brian Burns doesn’t even play the same position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Brian Burns doesn’t even play the same position close enough. DL. sure you can pick apart my post. id rather have brian burns than oliver. 6 5, 11 sacks pff 63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, balln said: close enough. DL. sure you can pick apart my post. id rather have brian burns than oliver. 6 5, 11 sacks pff 63. No, it’s really not close enough. There’s a reason why defensive ends have more sacks than interior defense of lineman as a whole. and yes, Brian Burns is a great player. We have Groot and spent a Brinks truck full of money on Von Miller, who unfortunately got hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) its a retrospective who would i rather have chose with the 9th pick. oliver has as many sacks as hamlin. hamlin is a back up safety. oliver was supposed to be a poor mans aaron donald. quick up the field rusher. hes just not lived up to draft status. and certainly shouldnt be anywhere near probowl discussion burns has 11 sacks. while von has 8 obviously hasnt played in a while. groot 7. just gonna need more out of our DL come playoff time Edited December 22, 2022 by balln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ganesh said: Burrow is so underrated. Additionally, he has weapons. I’m most worried about the Bengals in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, balln said: ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid Same with this year. The Bills could've chosen their franchise RB (Hall) in the 1st and Pro Bowl CB (Woolen) in the 2nd. Considering I'm no professional scout, watching videos I projected those two in my mock drafts on this forum. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Same with this year. The Bills could've chosen their franchise RB (Hall) in the 1st and Pro Bowl CB (Woolen) in the 2nd. Considering I'm no professional scout, watching videos I projected those two in my mock drafts on this forum. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back. 😂😂 I just think beane or whomever he delegates postion coaches plus scouts - gets enamored w a specific player or player type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 19 hours ago, NewEra said: No milano- this is ridiculous. That's flat out embarrassing...oh well if he doesn't drop a couple of those pic6's he's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud While I will admit, I may be too harsh stating Oliver is below average there is no way anyone whom watches football would come away stating that Oliver is a stud. There are too many points of evidence that refute that......Oliver is a very average player; he has as many "stud" games as he does "dud" games. And the games in between are "meh". Again, seems like a good guy, a guy who looks like he tries, but ex-Bill Justin Zimmer outplayed Oliver regularly and they do play the same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, IndyMark said: While I will admit, I may be too harsh stating Oliver is below average there is no way anyone whom watches football would come away stating that Oliver is a stud. There are too many points of evidence that refute that......Oliver is a very average player; he has as many "stud" games as he does "dud" games. And the games in between are "meh". Again, seems like a good guy, a guy who looks like he tries, but ex-Bill Justin Zimmer outplayed Oliver regularly and they do play the same position. The only thing that refutes that is the sacks that’s it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 5:00 PM, The Wiz said: 1st alternate: Dion Dawkins, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano and Tremaine Edmunds 2nd alternate: Rodger Saffold and Tyler Bass 3rd alternate: Tyler Matakevich, Reid Ferguson and Reggie Gilliam 4th alternate: Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver This just proves the probowl is a joke. Saffold is one of the worst guards in the NFL this year and shouldn't even be a 10th alternate if it went that far. Assuming all the 3rd alternative guys are for the ST position which is fine. Also having Rousseau and Oliver as 4th alternatives is a bit questionable but both have missed time this year with injuries or they'd likely be higher. And for that matter how is Von Miller not on the list based on his play before the injury?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: This just proves the probowl is a joke. Saffold is one of the worst guards in the NFL this year and shouldn't even be a 10th alternate if it went that far. Assuming all the 3rd alternative guys are for the ST position which is fine. Also having Rousseau and Oliver as 4th alternatives is a bit questionable but both have missed time this year with injuries or they'd likely be higher. And for that matter how is Von Miller not on the list based on his play before the injury?? Need to list them as LB and they get in over TJ watt and his 7 games/4 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 8:26 PM, HOUSE said: Reggie Gilliam must have friends in high places or a bunch of friends who are very high!! 🚬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Definitely an antiBills bias. Milano is the most impactful defensive player in the league on a team that statistically is top 3.. This is a popularity contest like the silly Oscars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 If we have only 1 defensive player in the pro bowl but the 3rd best defence (currently) in the AFC ... does that mean that Frazier is actually the one guy holding it all together and should get more credit? Don't answer, I'm just baiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) Right now I see many people posting on various threads on the message board. How can that be? I can't believe people have time to post right now and not riveted to the TV watching the Pro Bowl!! Edited February 5, 2023 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Speaking of the Pro Bowl game(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 How heavy and out of shape does Dawkins looks even compared to the other O-linemen there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blank Stare Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Who the F is this halftime act? Wow. I’d be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Stef missed a pretty easy catch in the best catch competition. And then kicked the ball away in frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Stef missed a pretty easy catch in the best catch competition. And then kicked the ball away in frustration. I’m embarrassed for Diggs. This is so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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