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9 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No Milano?

No, you have to order it separately.  You get: soup, entree, dessert.
        

8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s unfathomable he got any votes 

seinfeld jackie GIF

 

7 hours ago, vincec said:

My favorite Seinfeld character.

Milano should have put the balm on.

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13 hours ago, The Wiz said:

For your reading pleasure, check the replies.

 

 

It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs?  How do these people actually function in society?  It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers.

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14 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No Milano?

Not enough sexy stats (ints, sacks).  Just brilliant play.  Lazy Pro Bowl voters take the easy way out.

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

How'd the Chiefs get 8 players on the squad? 

(to the tune of Fiddler on the Roof):  TRADITION!

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28 minutes ago, stevewin said:

It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs?  How do these people actually function in society?  It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers.

Wait, what?  The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order.  No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys.  Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is.

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16 hours ago, stevestojan said:

Gilliam over Oliver is special. 

Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position.

 

There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is >  Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there?  That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant.

 

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

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19 minutes ago, IndyMark said:

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

I was with you until this last line.  Anyone who actually watches all of the games could never come away thinking he was a "below average player."  IMO, he's clearly an above average player.  But yes, he doesn't get enough sacks to be considered among the top-3 who were selected.

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2 hours ago, BillsFanSD said:

Wait, what?  The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order.  No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys.  Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is.

Burrow is so underrated.  Additionally, he has weapons. 

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2 hours ago, IndyMark said:

Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position.

 

There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is >  Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there?  That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant.

 

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft

 

its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 

 

1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid

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1 minute ago, balln said:

ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft

 

its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 

 

1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid

It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud

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3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud

its like youre a fan boy with rose colored glasses.

 

66 pff grade. hes ok. he has flashes. but hes not better than simmons (83), dex lawrence, brian burns, or christian wilkins (pff 83). wilkins and simmons 6'4 . miss st and clemson. I just want to know who thought ed oliver would be a better pro on bills scouting

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2 minutes ago, balln said:

close enough. DL. sure you can pick apart my post. id rather have brian burns than oliver. 6 5, 11 sacks pff 63. 

No, it’s really not close enough. There’s a reason why defensive ends have more sacks than interior defense of lineman as a whole.
 

and yes, Brian Burns is a great player. We have Groot and spent a Brinks truck full of money on Von Miller, who unfortunately got hurt.

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its a retrospective who would i rather have chose with the 9th pick. oliver has as many sacks as hamlin. hamlin is a back up safety.

 

oliver was supposed to be a poor mans aaron donald. quick up the field rusher. hes just not lived up to draft status. and certainly shouldnt be anywhere near probowl discussion

 

burns has 11 sacks. while von has 8 obviously hasnt played in a while. groot 7. just gonna need more out of our DL come playoff time

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45 minutes ago, balln said:

ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft

 

its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 

 

1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid

Same with this year. The Bills could've chosen their franchise RB (Hall) in the 1st and Pro Bowl CB (Woolen) in the 2nd. Considering I'm no professional scout, watching videos I projected those two in my mock drafts on this forum. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back. 😂😂

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6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Same with this year. The Bills could've chosen their franchise RB (Hall) in the 1st and Pro Bowl CB (Woolen) in the 2nd. Considering I'm no professional scout, watching videos I projected those two in my mock drafts on this forum. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back. 😂😂

I just think beane or whomever he delegates postion coaches plus scouts - gets enamored w a specific player or player type 

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud

While I will admit, I may be too harsh stating Oliver is below average there is no way anyone whom watches football would come away stating that Oliver is a stud.  There are too many points of evidence that refute that......Oliver is a very average player; he has as many "stud" games as he does "dud" games. And the games in between are "meh".  Again, seems like a good guy, a guy who looks like he tries, but ex-Bill Justin Zimmer outplayed Oliver regularly and they do play the same position.

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1 hour ago, IndyMark said:

While I will admit, I may be too harsh stating Oliver is below average there is no way anyone whom watches football would come away stating that Oliver is a stud.  There are too many points of evidence that refute that......Oliver is a very average player; he has as many "stud" games as he does "dud" games. And the games in between are "meh".  Again, seems like a good guy, a guy who looks like he tries, but ex-Bill Justin Zimmer outplayed Oliver regularly and they do play the same position.

The only thing that refutes that is the sacks that’s it

 

 

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On 12/21/2022 at 5:00 PM, The Wiz said:

 

1st alternate: Dion Dawkins, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano and Tremaine Edmunds

 

2nd alternate: Rodger Saffold and Tyler Bass

 

3rd alternate: Tyler Matakevich, Reid Ferguson and Reggie Gilliam

 

4th alternate: Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver

 

This just proves the probowl is a joke.

 

Saffold is one of the worst guards in the NFL this year and shouldn't even be a 10th alternate if it went that far.

 

Assuming all the 3rd alternative guys are for the ST position which is fine.

 

Also having Rousseau and Oliver as 4th alternatives is a bit questionable but both have missed time this year with injuries or they'd likely be higher. And for that matter how is Von Miller not on the list based on his play before the injury??

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41 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

This just proves the probowl is a joke.

 

Saffold is one of the worst guards in the NFL this year and shouldn't even be a 10th alternate if it went that far.

 

Assuming all the 3rd alternative guys are for the ST position which is fine.

 

Also having Rousseau and Oliver as 4th alternatives is a bit questionable but both have missed time this year with injuries or they'd likely be higher. And for that matter how is Von Miller not on the list based on his play before the injury??

Need to list them as LB and they get in over TJ watt and his 7 games/4 sacks.

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