NFL Week #15 - Fish at Buffalo - Post Game Thread

[Beck Water]

20 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

Few things/thoughts:

 

1. Refs - absolutely terrible. They missed PI multiple times in the first half (should have gone against the Bills) and missed obvious clipping against the Dolphins. Both teams got away with holds (whatever let them play). They missed a fairly obvious Off PI on the Dolphins WR on Tre White. Also Josh Allen should have had Intentional Grounding called. That said: the PI on MacKenzie was the correct call

 

I kind of wondered if the Josh Allen no intentional grounding were a bit of a "make up call" for the missed push off on Tre White.

 

Ref kibbutzing with McDaniel on the sideline for a long time coming back from halftime and when asked what the convo was about, saying smugly to the reporter "just maintaining a cordial professiona relationship" yeah, Right.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by Beck Water

[Andy1]

My after game thoughts: Tua is total class. I hope he has a long career but no success against the Bills. The Bills Miami rivalry is full on as hot as it has ever been. They are a real good team. We will be lucky to split wins with them in the coming years. 

[Warcodered]

 

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

This is rich

 

 

 

 

 

Because the defender is playing the ball. DPI as clear as day and right in front of a ref.

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by WideNine

[DapperCam]

6 minutes ago, BlazinBill said:

Agree with most honestly -regardi g the intentional grounding - I feel like I heard the announcer say the ball was tipped although I didn't see it get yipped and thought they moved on too quickly 

The ref thought the ball hit Chubb's helmet, but it missed by like a millimeter. Definitely should have been intentional grounding, but I understand why they missed the call in realtime.

[SCBills]

Did Elam’s performance earn him another start?

 

From what was shown on the broadcast, he looked pretty good.  
 

Gave up a contested catch to Hill.. more of a great catch by Tyreek than anything, but otherwise pretty good?

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

Can’t wait for the Bills to go into the playoffs with this struggle bus defense they are running.  
 

Should be a total disaster. 
 

Thought Elam played well though.  

[Amaru523]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don't think that's correct, because it was challenged by McDermott and the refs spent a LOOOOONG time reviewing it.  Why would that happen if it was gonna come back due to a penalty on the offense?

I think he's talking about the ball that Josh threw a little too high and it bounced off McKenzie's hands.

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Because the defender is playing the ball. DPI as clear as day and right in front of a ref.

 

 

 

 

Not just that but prior to that, and well before the ball got there, defender shoved McKenzie back

[WideNine]

36 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 It's not, really. It's just that the Bills won't do what is required to defend. They roll out their same defense that they do for anyone else and expect it to be enough.

 

True.

 

We were getting gashed by runs all game long and Hamlin was just brutal out there at S.

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Amaru523 said:

I think he's talking about the ball that Josh threw a little too high and it bounced off McKenzie's hands.

 

I realized that afterwards, you're right.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, dma0034 said:

Few things/thoughts:

 

1. Refs - absolutely terrible. They missed PI multiple times in the first half (should have gone against the Bills) and missed obvious clipping against the Dolphins. Both teams got away with holds (whatever let them play). They missed a fairly obvious Off PI on the Dolphins WR on Tre White. Also Josh Allen should have had Intentional Grounding called. That said: the PI on MacKenzie was the correct call

 

2. Bills need OLine help ASAP. It may be the single most important postional need. 1st half: Allen looks unstoppable and has all day to throw; 2nd half: Morse goes out and the Dolphins are in the backfield immediately

 

3.The NFL has to love the Bills and Vikings. Their games are highly entertaining. 

 

4. The bye week for the 1 seed is going to be extremely important. Will the Bills be able to stop the Bengals in a few weeks?

 

5. Once the snow hit the Dolphins looked lost. Allen (Bills) look impressive in cold weather games.

 

6. I hope the Chiefs and Bengals finish 2 and 3

If bates was ready to go it would not have been nearly as bad when morse went down. Boettger will be coming back too so we hopefully won’t get stuck in a van roten/Bobby hart clusterf**** again lol 

[Nelius]

1 minute ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Can’t wait for the Bills to go into the playoffs with this struggle bus defense they are running.  
 

Should be a total disaster.

Can't wait? lol dude. did you let the Pats troll veil down? C'mon, you can't wait for them to have a total disaster in the playoffs? Can we get a little more context on what exactly you think this team should do and why you think this season is a lost cause?

[Bermuda Triangle]

3 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

I think he's talking about the ball that Josh threw a little too high and it bounced off McKenzie's hands.

Correct.

[Locomark]

8 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Those fancy gloves aren’t helping any of our receivers. It’s not just McKenzie. Can we bring stickum back?

Yep Knox dropped 2 that would have combined for 35 yards. McKenzie got ripped off on that 30 yarder that was truly a Catch and Beasley, oh that’s right Beasley barely played because he was tired from his 7 snaps.

[BlazinBill]

4 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

The ref thought the ball hit Chubb's helmet, but it missed by like a millimeter. Definitely should have been intentional grounding, but I understand why they missed the call in realtime.

Gotcha - thank you - I mean it worked out for us and I'll take it - I think the bad calls kinda evened out- but I'm sure Dolphins and apparently Chief fans wouldn't agree

[muppy]

4 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Because the defender is playing the ball. DPI as clear as day and right in front of a ref.

 

 

 

I always thought that was a penalty due to face guarding text book defensive PI never looked back and significant contact.  total sour grapes on That specific call

[WideNine]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

If bates was ready to go it would not have been nearly as bad when morse went down. Boettger will be coming back too so we hopefully won’t get stuck in a van roten/Bobby hart clusterf**** again lol 

 

We've been banging the drum for Beane to address that C/G role in the draft.

 

We have passed on some good ones... hoping Mitch is OK, but losing count of his concussions.

 

Some strong candidates in this years draft too... we will probably draft a smallish 3 tech DT or DE.... time to invest in that OL. Hoping we get Boettger and Bates back soon they are pretty solid.

[Nelius]

As a nearly 20 year out of region online listener - WGR sounds like its in quite a sad place right now. I remember hearing far more excitement and better content years ago during the drought. These dudes are just slogging through things and trying to get off air ASAP it seems. And that's after the 1 hour CBS block most weekends.

[Reks Ryan]

57 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

That’s funny. But he is a good coach

[Big Turk]

Julian Edelman complaining about the refs deciding games on Twitter is the most ironic thing ever...

 

This coming from a dude that played on a team where the refs were caught on a hot mic saying "Just give it to them" on a disputed late game TD against the Pats that gave them the win.

 

Tuck rule anyone??

3 minutes ago, Nelius said:

As a nearly 20 year out of region online listener - WGR sounds like its in quite a sad place right now. I remember hearing far more excitement and better content years ago during the drought. These dudes are just slogging through things and trying to get off air ASAP it seems. And that's after the 1 hour CBS block most weekends.

 

To be fair, most of the callers now are enough to make you want to jump off a bridge.

Edited December 18, 2022 by Big Turk

[Process]

Shaq is the best

 

 

[Nelius]

Julian Edelman just mad that he'll be in the Dancing With The Stars Hall of Fame before the actual HOF. He's not even very good at the post-game life. Kind of twitchy and creepy on camera.

[BlazinBill]

5 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

That’s funny. But he is a good coach

Is he? Jury is still out on that- he does have a good game plan at times but three game loosing streak against against better teams doesn't have me sold yet. He had his team ball out today I won't deny it but I need to see him get his team adjusted and over this hump before i make that statement. Going away from the run game with a lead also really doesn't help him

Edited December 18, 2022 by BlazinBill

[hondo in seattle]

24 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

To the completely idiotic Fish fans saying Tua outplayed Josh.......

 

In the 2 games this year.....

Josh Allen - 704 pass yards, 124 rushing yards, 828 yards total, 6 TD's, 0 INT.

 

Tua - 420 pass yards, 7 rushing yards,  427 yards total, 3 TD's, 0 INT.

 

Tua isn't in Josh's universe.

Why post here.   We already know.   You should post on a Fins board.

[Process]

God ***** don't make me like you

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

11 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

We've been banging the drum for Beane to address that C/G role in the draft.

 

We have passed on some good ones... hoping Mitch is OK, but losing count of his concussions.

 

Some strong candidates in this years draft too... we will probably draft a smallish 3 tech DT or DE.... time to invest in that OL. Hoping we get Boettger and Bates back soon they are pretty solid.

There is absolutely no way Beane ignores the OL this April. Even if he has to hurt Sean's feelings. Too much rides on surrounding Josh with better players. They'll probably shut down Morse for these last 3 games. Hopefully he can go in the playoffs and maybe retire after a championship?  Bates to C and Boettger to RG. Upgrades at LG & RT will have to wait until April. Gotta draft a WR early also.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Some people don’t understand just how good Miami is. Josh said it best in the presser “we know them and they know us.” This was a quality win against a division rival firing on all cylinders. Tua played surprisingly well. This absolutely felt like a playoff game w/ all the implications. McDermott haters need to shut it. 5 playoff appearances in 6 years. Guess some of yall were too young to suffer through the likes of JP Losman and Drew Bledsoe. I have no doubt in my mind this team is going balls deep into the post-season. I will say sometimes I have my doubts about this defense. 

[Special K]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Upgrades at LG 

 

Agree. Don’t think they will be bringing back Rodger Saff-hold!

[JimmyNoodles]

8 minutes ago, Process said:

God ***** don't make me like you

 

 

That’s the truth. What a good dude. If he wasn’t made of glass,I’d be worried about Miami. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

11 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Can't wait? lol dude. did you let the Pats troll veil down? C'mon, you can't wait for them to have a total disaster in the playoffs? Can we get a little more context on what exactly you think this team should do and why you think this season is a lost cause?

This game didn’t worry me at all…that Miami offense has been great with armstead in the lineup and our offensive line is ravaged by injury but I’d assume bates/boettger will be back soon. 
 

winnning a game with van roten/hart in the lineup together is impressive however it happens 

[JDubya76]

59 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Are you east of the Mississippi? Then that's the problem. Buffalo Trace is at Costco in Nevada. And it's cheap.

I have a dozen bottles of Buffalo Trace at $30 a bottle but Blanton’s in Fl is $120 a bottle.

1 hour ago, Trock said:

If Sabres had half the heart Josh does they would be .500

Swing and a miss

[Beck Water]

McDermott's presser is worth a listen.

 

He was asked about the offensive series at the end of the 2nd half.  He's like "yeah, throw a touchdown with 0 left on the clock"

Deadpanned that Josh was lucky he threw a touchdown or "he and I would have had a talk".  Joked he might have let the air out of his tires.

 

 

[Warcodered]

 

[Process]

4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

McDermott's presser is worth a listen.

 

He was asked about the offensive series at the end of the 2nd half.  He's like "yeah, throw a touchdown with 0 left on the clock"

Deadpanned that Josh was lucky he threw a touchdown or "he and I would have had a talk".  Joked he might have let the air out of his tires.

 

 

I was so pissed when he started running to the right. And then of course he throws a TD. 

[BobbyC81]

That was a very entertaining, exciting, stressful and exhausting game!   Whew! 
 

Playoffs!  I will admit there were points earlier in the season, with everybody in the AFC East winning, all the Bills injuries and the way they played at times, that the thought of the Bills not even making the playoffs crossed my mind once or twice.

 

All Hail Josh Allen!
All hail Tyler Bass!

[Warcodered]

 

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

McDermott's presser is worth a listen.

 

He was asked about the offensive series at the end of the 2nd half.  He's like "yeah, throw a touchdown with 0 left on the clock"

Deadpanned that Josh was lucky he threw a touchdown or "he and I would have had a talk".  Joked he might have let the air out of his tires.

 

 

 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

51 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Can't wait? lol dude. did you let the Pats troll veil down? C'mon, you can't wait for them to have a total disaster in the playoffs? Can we get a little more context on what exactly you think this team should do and why you think this season is a lost cause?

Pats troll? Not sure about that but whatever….

 

Based on the Bills play. That’s all. Don’t look like a SB team. IMO

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Pats troll? Not sure about that but whatever….

 

Based on the Bills play. That’s all. Don’t look like a SB team. IMO

Didn’t think the Rams or Bengals looked like a Super Bowl team in last seasons big game . One of them won it though. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Reks Ryan said:

That’s funny. But he is a good coach

Made some suspect decisions today though.  They were killing it in the run game and went away from it in far too many short yardages situations. That defense has regressed a ton since flores was head coach too…I think he’s holding back a stacked roster a bit honestly. 
pretty inexcusable to cough up an 8 point lead to a team with Greg van roten and Bobby hart on the offensive line..if we had boettger or bates healthy for this game we would’ve blown them out even without morse 

Edited December 18, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan