Italian Bills Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Phins and KC today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Both 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 If KC lose, winning al the games left, will get us the first seed. 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: If KC lose, winning al the games left, will get us the first seed. And if the fins lose, we regain first place in the division. Hence the reason I said both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I want a KC loss, because I know we will beat the Fins to take the division…👍 9 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I think we’ll handle Miami- give me the 1 seed 13 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: And if the fins lose, we regain first place in the division. Hence the reason I said both. “If you have just one choice….” but you have two 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Both, I have them in a $35 parlay bet to win $465. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: And if the fins lose, we regain first place in the division. Hence the reason I said both. But if go the way i prefer, winning all the games left give us the n.1 seed, not like that if phins lose and kc wins, cuz kc will still be the n.1 seed unless they lose another game and we win all ours. Not very likely looking at their schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 No other choice but a KC loss. We can retake the division on our own by beating Miami 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 No brainer. KC. Buffalo has one more shot at Mia. Plus Mia also must travel to Chargers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus99 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 We win out Miami wins the rest except against Buffalo we take the division KC hopefully lose a couple we get number one seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: And if the fins lose, we regain first place in the division. Hence the reason I said both. But if KC loses, we will control our own destiny. By winning out we would then get both #1 seed and divisional crown because that means Miami loses to us in the next game. If KC wins and Miami loses, yes we are back in first in our division, but we do not control our own destiny anymore for the number 1 seed. We both need to win out and still need KC to lose another game. We do not need Miami to lose this week for us to win our division because we still play them again. But, we 100% need KC to lose at least one more game before end of season and this is probably the best shot at that. So best answer here is KC. Edited December 4, 2022 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 We control our destiny against Miami We don't vs KC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 As mentioned, both, but we control the Miami situation and we needs help to overtake the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Bills!Win! said: How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? By not blinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: But if KC loses, we will control our own destiny. By winning out we would then get both #1 seed and divisional crown because that means Miami loses to us in the next game. If KC wins and Miami loses, yes we are back in first in our division, but we do not control our own destiny anymore for the number 1 seed. We both need to win out and still need KC to lose another game. We do not need Miami to lose this week for us to win our division because we still play them again. But, we 100% need KC to lose at least one more game before end of season and this is probably the best shot at that. So best answer here is KC. I want both to lose. I understand the OP looking for "one" choice but I feel greedy today. I mentioned regaining first place in the division, not winning it knowing they have yet to play them the 18th. I agree the kc loss would be much more beneficial down the stretch while looking to get 1st seed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Obviously… the Sunshine Band!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Dophins this week and next. Tickets against the Phins are starting at $195, and maybe then the price would drop Kind of miss being irrelevant in late December, and $30 tickets. Well, not too much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Dolphins are going to lose a couple more games-would like to see them lose but they don’t concern me, so I’d rather see the Chiefs lose. Also, I don’t know what it is about the 49ers, but I just don’t like them. So while I would like for the dolphins to lose, I’m also fine with it if the 49ers lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chiefs because we have the chance to take care of Miami ourselves. But I think Chiefs win (and handily) and I think Miami loses a close one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 KC, Buffalo and Miami play again so they can handle that themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chiefs Phins have a daunting schedule so will lose other gamesx we WANT the 1 Seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I want the dolphins to lose just because I’m sick of seeing them win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 We need KC to lose otherwise we have to go back to Arrowhead for the 3rd straight year in the playoffs. I could unfortunately envision this team losing there 4 years in a row similar to losing 4 Super Bowls. The Dolphins are last year's Pats team. Given another opportunity we are going to destroy them and if we play them in the playoffs we will completely embarrass them. They are as phony as a $3 bill. All of this only making Tua do what he's good at stuff is a gimmick that will catch up to them and if anything shows that Tua is not very good if they have to tailor the game plan around his strengths. Let's see how he looks today vs a good defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Dolphins are going to lose a couple more games-would like to see them lose but they don’t concern me, so I’d rather see the Chiefs lose. Also, I don’t know what it is about the 49ers, but I just don’t like them. So while I would like for the dolphins to lose, I’m also fine with it if the 49ers lose Good lord I hope you’re right about the Phins losing a couple more. I cannot stand dolphins fans this year. I just can’t be ok with the 9ers losing today.. don’t want Miami playing with that kind of confidence down the stretch, and wouldn’t mind a little cushion in the event the Bills find a way to slip up once in their tough remaining schedule. Never been so on edge on a day that the Bills don’t play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Today we are very involved in the games even if we don’t play. That’s because our first enemy, KC, will may e face the very last obstacle in the schedule, second because we hate the Phins that lately became so cocky and with all the analyst going their way. But beside the two, we know that those dirty fishes will come in Orchard in two weeks and this time no heat to help them, so better a KC loss if we want to have a real shot to be the n.1 seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? 1) Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs) 2) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division 3) Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games 4) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference 5) Strength of victory 6) Strength of schedule There are more tie breakers than that, but if we tie in the division than it goes to common games. Then conference record. We both have losses to New York and Minnesota. They have a loss to Cincy, so that plays into our favor if we beat Cincy. Both teams have a tied conference record right now, but a loss to us would give them a worse conference record, assuming both teams come into the head to head game without losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I am rooting hard for the Bengals, as we drive for home field advantage. Regarding the Fins, revenge is a dish best served cold, and the sushi will be delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? By losing to the Bears. Beating all our NFC teams hurts our tow breakers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chiefs and it is not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chefs. Gotta go for the one seed. And if we can’t take care of the Phins on our own we do t deserve that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I want both to lose. I understand the OP looking for "one" choice but I feel greedy today. I mentioned regaining first place in the division, not winning it knowing they have yet to play them the 18th. I agree the kc loss would be much more beneficial down the stretch while looking to get 1st seed. Well obviously both is better, but if we are picking just one, KC is the only correct choice because that is the only option that 100% gives us complete control over our own destiny was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? If we go 4-2 in the division, that means we beat Miami. To tie them at 4-2 would mean Miami would need to win every other game on their schedule outside the Bills game, and we would need to lose to either Chicago or Bengals. Not likely to be a situation where we have same record and same divisional record. Possible, just not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: How do we win the tie breaker over Miami if we both go 4-2 in the division? Good question. The 3rd tiebreaker after head to head and division record is common games. Buffalo and Miami share 8 common games this year: Miami: Ravens W Bengals L Vikings L Steelers W Lions W Bears W Browns W Packers (home) Buffalo: Ravens W Steelers W Packers W Vikings L Browns W Lions W Bears (away) Bengals (away) Thus far the Bills are 5-1 in common games while Miami is 5-2, so Buffalo has a very slight edge. If the Bills split with Chicago and Cincinnati and Miami beats the Packers, we would then move to the 4th tiebreaker, conference record. Both the Bills and Miami are currently 6-2. Miami has @LAC, @BUF, @NE, and NYJ. Buffalo has NYJ, MIA, @CIN, and NE. Again, a slight edge for the Bills but ALL of our potential advantages are predicated on the Bills beating Miami in Buffalo. Should the Bills lose, they will likely need some serious help to win the division (and I recognize that your question assumes the Bills will win out in their division games). 5th and 6th tiebreakers are strength of victory and strength of schedule. If it got that far, Buffalo would be nearly certain to have the edge based on current numbers (Miami SOV .423, SOS .496, while Buffalo is SOV .475 and SOS .537). Edited December 4, 2022 by buffblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 How the hell did 42 people vote for the dolphins lol there is no debate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Process said: How the hell did 42 people vote for the dolphins lol there is no debate Because we have to secure our division first and that is far from a guarantee at this point. Everyone seems to be assuming that winning out is an easy task. The Chiefs losing makes no difference if we finish 2nd in the East 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chiefs. It’s not even close. We still have a chance at knocking off the Dolphins, at home. Chiefs keep finding ways to win, and their schedule isn’t exactly daunting after today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Chiefs, since we control our own destiny against the Phins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, buffblue said: Because we have to secure our division first and that is far from a guarantee at this point. Everyone seems to be assuming that winning out is an easy task. The Chiefs losing makes no difference if we finish 2nd in the East Ok… well we play the Fins again. If they lose today, but beat us, they have the tiebreaker anyway. We need to beat them, potentially, regardless. Chiefs, we have no control over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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