Fix The Bills - You're the GM and HC

[kkim0904]

Coaching:  Deeper route for TE (middle of the field, not side) and design screen pass to RB.  Against Jets, 90% of the throws are to side.  For less than 1-2 short yardage play (3rd down), more QB in center with two backs/fullback which will give more leverage than RPO.  Bills RPO is now too predictable.

 

GM: Bring LB and do rotation (65% snap for Tremaine)a.  Bring back John Brown / Emmanuel Sanders (vertical attack).

[PrimeTime101]

Sign OBJ, Get through the tough times we new our rookie OC would get through. Get healthy on defense.

 

 

Drops the mic.

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

The OL is mostly horrible.  Josh is mainly in the shotgun and on many plays he has like a second to look downfield before a defender is closing in.  If he wasn’t mobile and more Bledsoe-like, he could be leading the league in times sacked.

I agree this is the case most of the time. The games we dominate on offense and it looks easy is when Josh has time. Has not ben the case much lately. 

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, kkim0904 said:

Coaching:  Deeper route for TE (middle of the field, not side) and design screen pass to RB.  Against Jets, 90% of the throws are to side.  For less than 1-2 short yardage play (3rd down), more QB in center with two backs/fullback which will give more leverage than RPO.  Bills RPO is now too predictable.

 

GM: Bring LB and do rotation (65% snap for Tremaine)a.  Bring back John Brown / Emmanuel Sanders (vertical attack).

So your plan as GM is to take a LB off the field even though they are getting run on (and replace him with who exactly?) and then to bring back 2 guys who are well past their prime and would not bring anything to the offense 

[kkim0904]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

So your plan as GM is to take a LB off the field even though they are getting run on (and replace him with who exactly?) and then to bring back 2 guys who are well past their prime and would not bring anything to the offense 

With current roster, utilize more Dodson, but we need better run stopper like Klein.

[Augie]

Has a bionic elbow been mentioned yet? Terry can afford it! 

 

Other than that, we seriously upgrade at least two OL spots before next year, and work on a real run game. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 hours ago, mjt328 said:

Have Ken Dorsey, Josh Allen and the offense go watch some film on the Kansas City Chiefs.

When teams take away the deeper shots, they seemingly have no pivot.  It's just the QB running for his life and throwing into coverage, usually forcing it to Stefon Diggs.

 

The Chiefs lost their best deep threat in the offseason (Tyreek Hill), and have continued to roll on offense this season by simply being patient and attacking underneath.  They haven't been perfect either, but the shorter elements I see in their passing attack could definitely be a helpful adjustment for us.

• As many pointed out, we absolutely MUST get Dawson Knox involved in the passing game.  Hitting him with some quick releases would help tremendously when teams are playing back in coverage.  
• Slot receiver is a big problem.  Losing Jameson Crowder hurt way more than anyone expected, and Isaiah McKenzie is not the answer there.  I know he's a rookie, but I don't understand why Khalil Shakir is not getting more snaps.
• Nyheim Hines needs to be heavily involved, starting this week.  I want to see this team incorporate some more swing passes and screens.

 

The lack of adjustments (on both sides of the ball) are infuriating with this team.  

 

I think Nyheim Hines is going to disappoint. 

 

I don't think he's very good. 

 

I think the Bills should run the ball more in conventional sets and settle this offense some. 

 

Allen is taking 1-2 hard shots every game. 

 

They also need to phase in Kumerow and Shakir. 

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

●Go 50-50 Cook & Singletary 

●Give Shakir all of McKenzie's slot targets

Only use McK on gadget plays and release after season.

●Ramp up Hines' touches

● Bench Gabe and sign OBJ

● Tell Knox it's time to start earning that bag.

● Tell the OL to step it up before you get JA killed.

● Start drafting early round Olineman and stop wasting high picks on failed DE's (AJ/Boogie)

●Take the $ you save on 49 and continue to build the OL.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I think WR is by far the most pressing need this offseason. 

 

Safety - Sure

 

Linebacker - Sure

 

Right Tackle - Absolutely

 

Interior Offensive Line - Yes 

 

But this team needs another apex playmaker to pair with Diggs. We've run the Davis, McKenzie experiment and they're not reliable enough. Too inconsistent. 

[Alphadawg7]

10 hours ago, SCBills said:

We all know the weaknesses, worries, strengths and reasons for optimism with this team.

 

At 6-2, with a history of going into a lull around this time of year, what would YOU do?

 

Option 1 - Sign OBJ, obviously.  Lack of a true WR2 is clearly a massive issue this year.  Let's take that out of the equation for now.

 

If it's me:

 

-Bench McKenzie from the slot role.  He's killing the offense.  Some of it is on him, some of it is due to Allen clearly not trusting him.  Develop a package for him with jet sweeps, motion and goal line opportunities.  That should have been his role all along.

 

-Give Shakir extended run at slot and see if he can take ownership of the role and develop chemistry with Allen.  We have Kumerow back as outside depth.

 

-Use Hines heavy in the slot and as an Ekeler-type safety valve

 

-Settle on two backs and allow them to find a rhythm.  As much as I like Cook, this likely becomes Singletary and Hines.  Rotating 3 just gets too jumbled and I don't think it works for a guy who needs touches to get into the game and another guy who we're trying to integrate mid-season. 

 

-Force Allen to throw designed check downs to loosen two deep shells.  I don't care if he doesn't want to do it.. he has to.  Run designed plays that go to the RB in the flat or in shallow routes.  If they don't want to run the ball more, fine.. but if Knox is needed to block, we need a reliable short passing game.  Give Allen easy reads and nickel/dime teams to death 5-10 yards at a time until they react. 

 

On Defense, I'm sure they'll figure out the run game issues... They always do, let's just hope it's sooner rather than later. 

 

This pretty much sums up what I have been saying in all the other threads.  So you got an agree from me.  

 

One thing you left off though...Dorsey needs to figure out how to adjust.  He needs to find ways to involve a more spread out offense where we are getting the ball into other hands in the passing game like Knox, Shakir, and the RB's.  You covered some of that, just didn't mention Dorsey's role in that and him needed to show he can watch the film on how the Packers and Jets made halftime adjustments to stall our offense, and show he can adjust.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Did they attempt any screens vs jets? 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Did they attempt any screens vs jets? 

Not one. But the Jets blitzed only twice. All the pressure came from their front 4.  Clearly Sauce and Co. shut down Gabe, Dawson & McKenzie. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This pretty much sums up what I have been saying in all the other threads.  So you got an agree from me.  

 

One thing you left off though...Dorsey needs to figure out how to adjust.  He needs to find ways to involve a more spread out offense where we are getting the ball into other hands in the passing game like Knox, Shakir, and the RB's.  You covered some of that, just didn't mention Dorsey's role in that and him needed to show he can watch the film on how the Packers and Jets made halftime adjustments to stall our offense, and show he can adjust.  

it just seems like the threat of a QB that can hit every inch of the field with a rocket arm and mobility should force a defense to be soft against the run. 
 

also nobody has replaced what Beasley did well in 2020

[balln]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Not one. But the Jets blitzed only twice. All the pressure came from their front 4.  Clearly Sauce and Co. shut down Gabe, Dawson & McKenzie. 

They absolutely ran 1. Dawkins or saffold whiffed and tackler got DS for no gain 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Not one. But the Jets blitzed only twice. All the pressure came from their front 4.  Clearly Sauce and Co. shut down Gabe, Dawson & McKenzie. 

That’s still ok. Screen still takes the front out of the play and you get linemen on lbs and safeties. 

[frostbitmic]

I'd get rid of the ping pong table.

[Big Blitz]

Put Bates at LG and tell Saffold to F off if he can’t handle it. 
 

Sign OBJ

 

Get healthy. 
 

 

That’s it.  Other then doing what I said to do at the draft and pre trade deadline but I won’t look back in anger.  We have draft capital!

[Pirate Angel]

Start giving Cook more reps, Singletary is bad. B word Slap Josh every time he turns the ball over by being dumb

[Ralonzo]

Two words: Bobby Hart. Preseason convinced me he's born again Hart. When he was the 2021 whipping boy he wasn't as bad as Queasyberry was yesterday. Get him into the top-5, and instapressure Dan out.

47 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Not one. But the Jets blitzed only twice. All the pressure came from their front 4.  Clearly Sauce and Co. shut down Gabe, Dawson & McKenzie. 

 

Gabe shut down Gabe. Or perhaps it was sabotage with Slick-50 applied to his gloves.

[Dr.Sack]

Play more aggressively on defense against inferior offenses, play the standard way against better offenses. Play more conservatively against teams with good front 4s or secondaries. Take 8 max protect deep shots to Davis by the end of the 3rd quarter preferably on earlier downs by end of the 3rd quarter. This will loosen up defenses for the underneath stuff, and Davis is good for 30% success and will rebuild his confidence and give him opportunity to break out of slump. 

[TampaBillsJunkie]

11 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

People …. Really? We’ve lost two one score games.

 To division opponents that we should have beat.  The last few weeks this team has been off and showing signs of being figured out.  It's not panic time, it's adjustment time. Injuries have been a problem, but every team is dealing with that.  The league is morphing back into run and stop the run and as it gets colder, the Bills are going to have to figure out how to deal with that since it is our weak spot.  There's lots of good teams in the AFC and getting home field advantage is not a given, the division is not a given. We've got to earn it and that starts again this week. 

[LABILLBACKER]

37 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

Two words: Bobby Hart. Preseason convinced me he's born again Hart. When he was the 2021 whipping boy he wasn't as bad as Queasyberry was yesterday. Get him into the top-5, and instapressure Dan out.

 

Gabe shut down Gabe. Or perhaps it was sabotage with Slick-50 applied to his gloves.

Which is why I want Gabe benched. Let OBJ slide in and take over wr2 duties. Gabes 4 td KC was amazing but he's got zero consistency. He couldn't put 2 good games together to save his life. And I think Josh knows this.

[biggerdaddynj]

Lots of good well thought out ideas—simple one here (not taking away the other good ideas)—I’d love to have a real three down back who can do it.  Extra dimension but we added Cook and Hines so I guess mine is a dream

for the future.  

[SoCal Deek]

This is going to be a bit Captain Obvious but the best way to ‘fix’ the Bills is to get healthy. Yes, I realize that all teams have injuries but being 6-2 with as many as the Bills have had is pretty amazing.  It shows how good this team really is. It also shows that injuries (which are out of anyone’s control) may sadly be the biggest single variable in the modern NFL. If the Bills aren’t healthy going into the playoffs, or their opponents aren’t, then Xs and Os don’t  matter all that much. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by SoCal Deek

[Big Blitz]

Start trading these picks for the CMCs of the league or trade up for Breece Hall but hey maybe Boogie will work out

 

 

 

 

[T master]

20 hours ago, SCBills said:

We all know the weaknesses, worries, strengths and reasons for optimism with this team.

 

At 6-2, with a history of going into a lull around this time of year, what would YOU do?

 

Option 1 - Sign OBJ, obviously.  Lack of a true WR2 is clearly a massive issue this year.  Let's take that out of the equation for now.

 

If it's me:

 

-Bench McKenzie from the slot role.  He's killing the offense.  Some of it is on him, some of it is due to Allen clearly not trusting him.  Develop a package for him with jet sweeps, motion and goal line opportunities.  That should have been his role all along.

 

-Give Shakir extended run at slot and see if he can take ownership of the role and develop chemistry with Allen.  We have Kumerow back as outside depth.

 

-Use Hines heavy in the slot and as an Ekeler-type safety valve

 

-Settle on two backs and allow them to find a rhythm.  As much as I like Cook, this likely becomes Singletary and Hines.  Rotating 3 just gets too jumbled and I don't think it works for a guy who needs touches to get into the game and another guy who we're trying to integrate mid-season. 

 

-Force Allen to throw designed check downs to loosen two deep shells.  I don't care if he doesn't want to do it.. he has to.  Run designed plays that go to the RB in the flat or in shallow routes.  If they don't want to run the ball more, fine.. but if Knox is needed to block, we need a reliable short passing game.  Give Allen easy reads and nickel/dime teams to death 5-10 yards at a time until they react. 

 

On Defense, I'm sure they'll figure out the run game issues... They always do, let's just hope it's sooner rather than later. 

 

Also Utilize Morris & Gilliam more when the lined up with Gilliam as the old style blocking back to help the run game it did a lot better which took some of the pressure off of Josh & set up the pass better keep ing the opponents D in check .

 

Plus use some 2 tight end sets for the short game Morris & Knox on either side to either chip then open up for a short pass as you said come on use all of what you got or they will be watching the SB once again form the couch ...

[T master]

15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Start trading these picks for the CMCs of the league or trade up for Breece Hall but hey maybe Boogie will work out

 

 

 

 

 

Hodgins wasn't a bad piece i feel he was just hit by the injury bug then the covid thing which you can't blame him for that but you can bet Dabol snagged him for good reason when he was available because every time he was on the field he usually contributed .

 

If they weren't so stuck on the speed thing with McKkenzie & maybe gave Hodgins the chance while he was here to play the slot like he did in college where he made most of his production that would give Josh a much bigger target there but to this point McKenzie almost single handedly has given away 2 or 3 TD's .

 

I think they have had the personal to be a really good team a SB contender but they lay it all on Josh when Cook dropped the ball in the beginning of the season they benched him when McKenzie drops it they keep him in they need to use other like Gilliam, Morris, now Hynes, & others in some different packages each week but it seems to be the Josh & Diggs show shut them down game over ...

[Wsam4031]

i think they seriously need to think about resigning poyer. tackling in the box has been a huge problem in the 2 losses, which poyer didnt play. Let oliver wlak and pay poyer. I for one completely under estimated how important him and hyde are to this d. 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said:

i think they seriously need to think about resigning poyer. tackling in the box has been a huge problem in the 2 losses, which poyer didnt play. Let oliver wlak and pay poyer. I for one completely under estimated how important him and hyde are to this d. 

 

The safety angles they are taking on outside runs mostly range from meh to atrocious...

 

Ja'quan Johnson should not see the field again except for teams. Marlowe needs to come in for him in his place. 

 

Handling I haven't noticed since a few games ago on run angles and noticed a few TFLs he got so perhaps he has gotten better in that regard...

 

IMO, Ja'quan Johnson is the weak link in this defense 

[DCofNC]

20 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Chris Brown is spelling it out right now on GR. Diggs has triple the catches of the next receiver on the roster!! Unbelievable!! Turnovers and tackling are problems too

If I was that guy, I’d go back and find all the people that wouldn’t hear it when I said, we have one WR who’s done anything in the NFL and they all told me Davis was amazing, would have 1k+ this year, yadda yadda yadda.  They relied on Davis to step up, he hasn’t, he continues to drop big passes and doesn’t deserve the unquestioned #2 role.  The rest of the WRs are guys we got off the waiver wire or a 5th round rookie, why is anybody surprised?

[Eastport bills]

The team is good enough as constructed to compete for a championship. I think the problem that surfaced in the Jets game is that our offense has become too reliant on Josh’s ability to avoid free rushers and either run or find off schedule targets. Ths is not sustainable without getting Josh injured or having him facing a crisis of confidence because there’s too many in coverage.  We have to become multidimensional using Hines and Cook on short screens and underneath crossing patterns along with a better running approach using Gilliam more as lead blocker. Let’s see if our lineman can be better at opening some running lanes. If we can do this , our incredibly talented QB can be even more effective throwing to receivers downfield.

[Beck Water]

On 11/7/2022 at 11:27 AM, BuffaloBill said:

Cut the entire roster and start over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People …. Really? We’ve lost two one score games.

 

 

 

Not just two 1 score games - 2 games by a total of 5 points cumulative.  2 points, and 3 points, and both contending for a chance to tie/win in the final moments.

 

 

But yeah, don't continue to adjust or tweek, BLOW ***** UP.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Beck Water

[LyndonvilleBill]

I wouldn't do any major changes. I would be on the phone with Darryl Williams and Ereck Flowers agents though. I'd also force the quick passing game on Dorsey and Josh. Shorter routes like against the Rams. Take some pressure off the line. I wasn't really on-board with OBJ, but with the way Davis and Knox have been and limited use of Shakir, I'm definitely coming around to trying to bring him on.

 

Defense I think we are fine. Just need to get a couple guys back healthy and on the field. No changes other than maybe a little less nickel at times.

[Slack_in_MA]

Commit to more short pass, ball control offense. They really miss Beasley in this regard. Hopefully Hines can provide an option here.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Slack_in_MA

[machine gun kelly]

Some of you are some serious negative bandies.  We’re 6-2 and blew out in most of the wins minus the Ravens.

 

If you want to change it up by adding more Shakir than McKenzie, get Hines involved while Cook is developing and have more 21 personnel, that’s fine, but this team isn’t broken.  Are some of you so spoiled on the wins that unless we destroy our opponent we are a failure.

 

I wonder sometimes if some people have ever played highly competitive sports.  A win is a win, and we’ve not had a Colts like trampling last year where we looked horrible.  Even then we can back and in the end stood toe to toe with the Chiefs and almost won.

 

Lastly, pay OBJ a sound contract and everything changes if he’s healthy.  We’ve been fortunate since 2018 only a four game loss for Allen.  Yesterday on WGR the morning guys stated Spotrac has a two year contract market value of $13 mil. Per.  That’s a deal for his talent.

[SoCal Deek]

The Bills need to fix the Right Tackle position. Everyone can debate the holding call on Dawkins, but if you go back and look at that final series, the Bills overcame that penalty in one play and we’re sitting at 2nd and 2…when Josh is sacked, fumbles, and they’re left way behind the sticks. Total failure at Right Tackle.  Not sure if Spencer is the answer but his absence was obvious on that play and it might have seriously injured our franchise QB.