It Just FEELS as Though Buffalo Lost A Lot more Than the Game Yesterday

[Jay_Fixit]

1 hour ago, rockpile said:

The Bills apparently lost a lot of fans yesterday. 🙄

“Fans.”

[Eastport bills]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Not since the Super Bowl year vs the Giants did have the feeling that Buffalo was the best team in the league, and it wasn't even close. Besides losing to an also injury depleted Jets team, most likely the #1 seed, as well a nice cushion in the division, the aura of this team since to have slipped away as well. I am not saying the attitudes of the players have changed, I am talking about people I know. Yes, Bills fans can overreact a ton after a loss, but this one feels different.

 

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

Josh has carried this team through 8 games. Now it’s time for Sean, Dorsey and Frazier, if they’re any good, to build this guy’s confidence by doing what they can to take the pressure off by getting the O-line to protect and run block. They must force feed running the ball in the play calling to slow the rush and finally, improve this run defense and tackling. That game should have been a W with the Jets starting that last drive at their own 5 yard line.

[BuffaloRebound]

When you’re favored to win every game and the other team is coming for you and making off-season personnel moves specifically to beat you, you gotta bring it every week.  

We leave so many points on the field every week.  It’s like we have to be at least 10 points better than the other team to win.  So frustrating to watch.  

[Big Blitz]

It’s not Allen

 

If you’re questioning anything you’re beginning to think there are 3-5 offenses in the AFC better, more balanced, and talented then the Bills - some were more active at the deadline then us and maybe that was a tad deflating.  
 

 

Chiefs (nothing to be said)

Dolphins (Hill, Waddle, their RBs are functional)

Bengals (Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon)

 

 

Bills (Diggs, Davis aaaaaaaand ????) 

 

But here is the good news.  We torch defenses that are average to good.  Great defenses and secondaries can slow us some - Green Bay and the Jets have the defenses to do that.  There are only 2 good defenses I see in the AFC.
 

Not having a slot guy worth a dam is really hurting us.  Not having a RB to make the D at least consider accounting for him is hurting us.  
 

 

More importantly, we need to start learning to play like every team is treating us like their SB.  We have to be able to match and exceed their intensity.  
 

 

I fully expect to pummel the Vikings this week.  No conditions with injury either.  Pummel them.  

[bobobonators]

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

[zow2]

Didn't really see any intensity yesterday, except for the Allen long TD run.  It was all reactionary, especially on D.  The Jets dictated everything....including being much more physical in both trenches.  The Bills looked like the team with the target on their backs.  They are the measuring stick for everyone and like Miami, the Bills game was like a NY Jets home playoff game.  I have to say, it seemed like the O and D were going through the motions for long stretches, which is disappointing on the players and on McDermott.

I think it will get corrected and Allen will find his groove again.  It might be best that the AFC #1 seed pressure turns to KC, Cinci, Miami, etc... and away from Buffalo.  

[Big Blitz]

We’re going 14-3

 

Exactly what we thought was best case

 

The Bengals D is a mess - not worried about them.  
 

The Patriots - no.  Just no.  
 

Jets and Miami at home.  Bring them on already.  
 

 

14-3

[HappyDays]

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I feel like I am stuck on repeat but the offensive line IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 

 

I don't think any fanbase in the league is happy with their OL right now. Chiefs fans are saying their highly paid OL is the main reason they almost lost to the Titans last night, they've been complaining about it all year. It is just something most offenses have to gameplan around.

 

I think we just need to get back to what we are good at - pin and pull run game, Allen under center, play action, quick passes on routes that he likes to throw with a few deep shots thrown in at timely moments. And it would help if we had some weapons. The OL wasn't responsible for Davis dropping a perfect throw on 4th and 21. They were responsible for one negative play on the final drive (excluding the awful holding call on Dawkins).

[LABILLBACKER]

I think this little game and a half lull is a product of 6 defensive injuries more than anything else. We're not getting Micah back, but one by one the others starting with Milano have to return. 

    We have to let Josh reset. We need to light a fire under Gabe and this OL. Hines will help as will OBJ when we acquire him. Frazier & McD have to be less stubborn and willing to adjust their base nickel from time to time. A 12-13 win season is still very attainable. 

[smuvtalker]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Not since the Super Bowl year vs the Giants did have the feeling that Buffalo was the best team in the league, and it wasn't even close. Besides losing to an also injury depleted Jets team, most likely the #1 seed, as well a nice cushion in the division, the aura of this team since to have slipped away as well. I am not saying the attitudes of the players have changed, I am talking about people I know. Yes, Bills fans can overreact a ton after a loss, but this one feels different.

 

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

I share your sentiments completely.

 

I too have been a Bills fan for over four decades, and have (emotionally) lived and died with this team.  I was in high school at the beginning of their four super bowl runs, and in college the year of homerun throwback.  I remember getting so upset at my roommate because he laughed as Tennessee ran the ball in for the TD that I literally didn't speak to him for a week.  I used to get so excited after a win, and when we'd lose, I would avoid watching ANY sports shows or reading any articles the entire week.  

As I've gotten older, got married, had children, my priorities changed, and the Bills went on their 17 year drought, I began to care less and less, the pain and emotional stress I endured seemed to just numb with time.  

Then we hired Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane.   Then we drafted one Josh Allen.  I'll be the first to admit, I was as upset with the pick as anyone on this message board.  How wrong I was.  This franchise did a complete 180, and we went from laughing stock to NFL elite, culminating in prior to this current season, a great majority of the country picking the Bills to win it all this year.  

As this team has grown, developed improved, and blossomed, so has my passion for our beloved Bills.  Wins are satisfying once again.  I actually ENJOY watching sportscenter, and reading all the articles.  Not only are the Bills winning, they are DOMINATING.  We've quickly become so spoiled that even when win, if it isn't in what's become customary blowout fashion, we come on here and vent and discuss what needs to happen or where we need to be better.  Last week, even with the double digit victory, we found plenty to find fault with, including JA17, who I'll admit, in my biased eyes, can do no wrong.  But yesterday.....I don't really have the words to accurately describe what I felt.  It wasn't anger.  It wasn't disbelief.  It certainly wasn't denial.  I may not post often, but if you look at my posts, you'll see I'm an eternal optimist.  A sunshine, lolipops and rainbows type of guy. I still remain optimistic, I'm still confident we WILL make the playoffs, and will be contending for that number one seed come January.  But yesterday's loss did something to me.  It filled me with an all-too-familiar feeling, one that I hadn't felt in decades.  I haven't turned the TV back on since the game ended.  I can honestly say, I DO NOT like this feeling.  

I don't know what needs to happen.  I have my opinions just like the rest of us.  We can say Allen needs to be better, our run D has to stiffen up, we need a legitimate WR2, we need to finally establish a consistent run game, we need more reliable slot play, we need guys to get healthier and fast, etc....But what I DO know, and it's the only thing I can say for certain, is that I need Sunday to get here, like right now.  Like yesterday as a matter of fact.  I need something to wash this nasty, nasty a$$ taste out of my mouth and out of my head.

I've heard people say winning cures everything. 

 

I really hope they're right.  

 

Please forgive the lengthy post, but I really needed to get that off my chest, and I pray it was okay to share amongst my fellow Bills fans.  

 

Let's go Buffalo!

[BuffaloBaumer]

12 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

I actually find these comments as the most annoying and refusing to see what problems Lay ahead for this team if things are not fixed. If you don’t agree with the sentiment in this thread, go jump in one that you can relate to.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think any fanbase in the league is happy with their OL right now. Chiefs fans are saying their highly paid OL is the main reason they almost lost to the Titans last night, they've been complaining about it all year. It is just something most offenses have to gameplan around.

 

I think we just need to get back to what we are good at - pin and pull run game, Allen under center, play action, quick passes on routes that he likes to throw with a few deep shots thrown in at timely moments. And it would help if we had some weapons. The OL wasn't responsible for Davis dropping a perfect throw on 4th and 21. They were responsible for one negative play on the final drive (excluding the awful holding call on Dawkins).

 

Davis could have made the play on 4th and 21 it was a makeable play but that isn't a gimme play either. The fact is our oline failing in game on the line situations is now a pattern that you can simply not ignore. They didn't do enough last offseason. I said it then, I repeat it now. However this season ultimately ends I want the offensive line to be the absolute priority area for upgrades next offseason. Not borderline starters like Quess and Bates or total has beens like Saffold. 

[Greg S]

10 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Didn't really see any intensity yesterday, except for the Allen long TD run.  It was all reactionary, especially on D.  The Jets dictated everything....including being much more physical in both trenches.  The Bills looked like the team with the target on their backs.  They are the measuring stick for everyone and like Miami, the Bills game was like a NY Jets home playoff game.  I have to say, it seemed like the O and D were going through the motions for long stretches, which is disappointing on the players and on McDermott.

I think it will get corrected and Allen will find his groove again.  It might be best that the AFC #1 seed pressure turns to KC, Cinci, Miami, etc... and away from Buffalo.  

 

You should see the media here in the NY/NJ area with TV, newspapers, WFAN. You would think the Jets won the Super Bowl. All week leading up to this game you could tell this wasn't another game to the Jets. All of our divisional rivals are getting fired up to play the Bills since they have been the top team for a couple of years now.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Everyone needs to calm the hell down.  The Jets are an improving team.  The Bills are banged up.  If the Bills get healthy and play up to potential they are still the team to beat in the AFC.  If the injuries continue to mount it will be a lost season due to injury not talent.  

[Airseven]

2 hours ago, rockpile said:

The Bills apparently lost a lot of fans yesterday. 🙄

Less bandwagoners, less mustaches, less hand shakes, less podcasts, less fluff. 👍

[Bruffalo]

Receiver depth has really quickly become a real issue.  

Gabe Davis can't be our #2 if he's going to disappear for games in a row.  When he goes off it's a sight to behold, but we need consistency in that position.

 

We have no slot receiver.  I like Shakir, I think he might be the answer, but it seems obvious right now he isn't in that guy yet in the coaching staff's eyes. McKenzie drops everything when a man is within 2 yards of him.  We needed to attack the middle of the field against the Jets and we couldn't do it.  I don't know why we don't use Knox in the middle of the field more either. 

 

The lack of offensive investment is really starting to rear its end.  We live and die on Allen/Diggs.  The defense should be so much better with how much has been invested in it.  Wilson had the first read throw every time Sunday, that's unacceptable. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Bruffalo

[thenorthremembers]

The thing that worries me is our lack of offensive weapons.  When I look around the league, especially at the other tops teams, I see rosters stocked with offensive talent.   Outside of Diggs, the Bills are a bit bereft.    I still think Knox can help in this instance, but Dorsey needs to start scheming things up to get him involved.   

 

Thats my main worry right now.   Last year when the Bills were slumping it felt different, Knox was catching TDs, Beasley despite looking older was still great on 3rd downs, and Davis was doing a much better job of catching the ball.  Right now I feel like the Bills have no identity on offense outside of throwing to Diggs and Josh running.   They are missing Daboll's creativity right now.   If Knox and McKenzie are non-existent, Dorsey has to scheme things up to get them involved.

 

 

[zow2]

3 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

You should see the media here in the NY/NJ area with TV, newspapers, WFAN. You would think the Jets won the Super Bowl. All week leading up to this game you could tell this wasn't another game to the Jets. All of our divisional rivals are getting fired up to play the Bills since they have been the top team for a couple of years now.

 

I get it.. And if it weren't for the pain of being 0-2 in the division maybe this isn't a terrible thing.  The Bills had long winning streaks against Miami and NYJ snapped.  It's not normal to be defeating your division foes that often in a row.  It was inevitable... and now the revenge factor will be on Buffalo's side in the rematches and possibly playoffs.  Doesn't mean an automatic W, but it will ramp up the Bills intensity against these teams big time.

[BuffaloRebound]

16 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

I don’t see many posts lamenting that we stink.  It’s just hard to deny the 2 year trend of being 2-7 in games decided by less than 10 points.  Was hoping we turned the corner after the Ravens and Chiefs games.  Everyone (players, coaches, fans) seems to panic when we don’t blow out the teams we should beat.  
When do we pull out games at end like Chiefs and Bucs yesterday where we play like crap for 55 minutes but are confident we’re still gonna pull it out on the end?  Gotta learn to be comfortable playing in tight games.  

[Nuncha]

The last 6 quarters of play have been as GROSS as this J E T S fan picking his nose for millions to see on live TV. 

 

 

However, we still beat a bad Packers team and were a few plays away from a W against the Jets.  This is the point of the season where the best teams will rise to the top.  Will the Bills learn from their mistakes of the past 6 quarters and be one of them?  You have to believe!

Edited November 7, 2022 by Azucho98

[zow2]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

The thing that worries me is our lack of offensive weapons.  When I look around the league, especially at the other tops teams, I see rosters stocked with offensive talent.   Outside of Diggs, the Bills are a bit bereft.    I still think Knox can help in this instance, but Dorsey needs to start scheming things up to get him involved.   

 

Thats my main worry right now.   Last year when the Bills were slumping it felt different, Knox was catching TDs, Beasley despite looking older was still great on 3rd downs, and Davis was doing a much better job of catching the ball.  Right now I feel like the Bills have no identity on offense outside of throwing to Diggs and Josh running.   They are missing Daboll's creativity right now.   If Knox and McKenzie are non-existent, Dorsey has to scheme things up to get them involved.

 

 

 

Our main offensive weapon is and always has been Allen,,,and Diggs.  That's it.  We go how Allen goes, and Diggs performs well when Allen is cooking.  Otherwise, Gabe is lightning in a bottle once in a while and no one else scares the opponents.  

[Greg S]

Just now, zow2 said:

 

I get it.. And if it weren't for the pain of being 0-2 in the division maybe this isn't a terrible thing.  The Bills had long winning streaks against Miami and NYJ snapped.  It's not normal to be defeating your division foes that often in a row.  It was inevitable... and now the revenge factor will be on Buffalo's side in the rematches and possibly playoffs.  Doesn't mean an automatic W, but it will ramp up the Bills intensity against these teams big time.

 

I would hope so. If the Bills can't bring the intensity against their main rivals, then that falls on McDermott. Especially now since the AFCE is a pretty tough division. There are no cupcakes in the AFCE. NE is in last place with a winning record.

[jahnyc]

Losing to two division rivals (Jets and Dolphins) is really awful, but what is worse is the hope and confidence that we have provided to both of these teams. They know they can beat us now, and all of the pressure will be on the Bills to beat them when we see them in Buffalo.  The way that we lost yesterday also hurts.  There is nothing more demoralizing as a fan than having your team battered by long rushes by average running backs and seeing huge holes opened up on your defense on a constant basis.  Even worse, the Jets were playing back up players on their o-line because of injuries.

Edited November 7, 2022 by jahnyc

[teef]

52 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I think people are just tired of having the Bills do Billsy things and pulling the rug out. Mostly just disappointment from a good team underwhelming when they shouldn’t be. Gabe Davis and particularly McKenzie have been soul crushers lately and it sucks. 

it's a lousy loss.  the bills weren't going to dominate every game this season.  it just depends how they work through this.  

[Bill from NYC]

I think that fans get conditioned to winning OR losing rather quickly. For example:

 

1) After decades of the Bills losing, I was expecting to lose almost every game. When Stevie Johnson dropped the game winning pass, who here was shocked? I didn't say angry LOL! I said "shocked."  Be honest folks, when the Chiefs came back in the playoffs, how many of you we just so surprised? Now, we have a team with considerable talent and a QB who (imo) is a first ballot HOFer if he stays healthy. He might stay healthy too if we draft more blockers and less secondary but I digress.

Now that the Bills are a winning team, losing a game (even on the road to a hot divisional rival) is shocking.

 

2) I am, and have been a lifelong Crimson Tide Fan. They are just another good team this season. Their main weaknesses? You guessed it.....wide receiver and of course the Offensive Line! Does this sound familiar? The Tide already has 2 losses this year and it is unsettling because of their history of greatness. 

 

My point? With Josh Allen, and the fact that pro football is of course a passing oriented sport, it was easy to start thinking about the Bills as "winners." The good news? We ARE now winners as long as Josh stays healthy, and he probably will if he runs less and is given more support in terms of blocking and receiving weapons.

 

I made a small bet in Vegas on the Bills to win the Super Bowl and I expect to cash it after we do in fact win it all.

 

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[teef]

2 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

Losing to two division rivals (Jets and Dolphins) is really awful, but what is worse is the hope and confidence that we have provided to both of these teams. They know they can beat us now, and all of the pressure will be on the Bills to beat them when we see them in Buffalo.  The way that we lost yesterday also hurts.  There is nothing more demoralizing as a fan than having your team battered by long rushes by average running backs and seeing huge holes opened up on your defense on a constant basis.  Even worse, the Jets were playing back up players on their o-line because of injuries.

i don't think this has much to do with anything.  the pats beat the bills in the first meeting last year and we all knew what happened after that.  the bills didn't help themselves out in these two losses.  

[BADOLBILZ]

 

 

Some of you have no memory whatsoever.

 

This happens every season under McDermott.........starting with the epic mid-season collapse in 2017............whatever it is,  he fails to push the right buttons and they play bad football for about a month or so.

 

Doesn't feel different in the least.

 

Past two weeks have been lousy, unfocused efforts.    Lucky to come out of it 1-1 given that neither opponent was 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars bad.  

 

If they were a road warrior playoff team it wouldn't matter.........because he usually has them tuned back up for the finish...........but he's 0-4 on the road in the playoffs so it would behoove the McBeane regime to figure out how to bypass the mid-season vacation this team takes every year.    

 

You could hear his understanding of this ongoing issue in his postgame last night.   All 5 years that they've been competitive(save 2018 when they were terrible at the outset and never in contention) under McDermott the same thing has happened at the same point of each season.

[Rigotz]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

 

Week 3 of this year: Chiefs lose to Colts 17-20. 

Pat Mahomes: 20/35 262 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

 

It happens to him and every other QB.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

21 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Everyone needs to calm the hell down.  The Jets are an improving team.  The Bills are banged up.  If the Bills get healthy and play up to potential they are still the team to beat in the AFC.  If the injuries continue to mount it will be a lost season due to injury not talent.  

It’s much less about what the loss means about the bills and a lot more about having to play on the road in the playoffs. 
 

two division losses now. One more and they may need to go through arrowhead AGAIN 

[WideNine]

I have not seen Allen that pissed at a post-game presser since maybe that NE game where he fed their DBs quite the feast.

 

Disappointed yes, but steaming mad and just wanting to shred something, not in a while.

 

I do not give Allen a pass but do lay a good portion of this fail on Dorsey and Frazier for poor game plans. Sure, there was poor execution, but Dorsey went into the game as if our OL could hold up for a long count against the Jets DL. Cannot count how many times Allen got hit or OL players were forklifted into his lap. Even Morse who is a pretty good center was getting bull rushed into his lap.

Dorsey needed to scheme the ball coming out faster, and we needed to keep pounding the rock. You cannot always just play "your game" you have to adjust enough to create better matchups against different opponents. The net result of "the plan" yesterday was Allen "feeling the rush" and being out of sync with his receivers and timing and making mistakes with the ball.

 

I think we are coming into a true test of Dorsey as an OC vs Dorsey as a mentor in the QB room... hopefully just growing pains and he will figure things out, game plan better, and make better adjustments to what the defense is doing on game day.

 

McD knows that the defense is now getting shredded with runs outside the tackles and knows that needs to change. It needed to change after the GB game. A lot still comes back to players taking bad angles and missing tackles, but those things need to be corrected. Our defense cannot allow teams to run the ball with a green QB who is prone to mistakes or chew up the clock and move the chains while keeping our offense on the bench.

 

There is a lot of hurt pride, but we will see if this team is able to bounce back.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by WideNine

[Greg S]

12 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

Losing to two division rivals (Jets and Dolphins) is really awful, but what is worse is the hope and confidence that we have provided to both of these teams. They know they can beat us now, and all of the pressure will be on the Bills to beat them when we see them in Buffalo.  The way that we lost yesterday also hurts.  There is nothing more demoralizing as a fan than having your team battered by long rushes by average running backs and seeing huge holes opened up on your defense on a constant basis.  Even worse, the Jets were playing back up players on their o-line because of injuries.

 

No Breece Hall either. No matter how the season plays out Beane has some work to do. OL, another playmaker on offense to help Diggs, DL as they need to get bigger and tougher at the LOS. Still, this is a 6-2 football team. We have a good team, but they rely on Josh to do more than he should. Beane needs to get him some more help.

[corta765]

17 minutes ago, teef said:

it's a lousy loss.  the bills weren't going to dominate every game this season.  it just depends how they work through this.  

 

If they cant win every week 70-3 why are we even watching

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Some of you have no memory whatsoever.

 

This happens every season under McDermott.........starting with the epic mid-season collapse in 2017............whatever it is,  he fails to push the right buttons and they play bad football for about a month or so.

 

Doesn't feel different in the least.

 

Past two weeks have been lousy, unfocused efforts.    Lucky to come out of it 1-1 given that neither opponent was 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars bad.  

 

If they were a road warrior playoff team it wouldn't matter.........because he usually has them tuned back up for the finish...........but he's 0-4 on the road in the playoffs so it would behoove the McBeane regime to figure out how to bypass the mid-season vacation this team takes every year.    

 

You could hear his understanding of this ongoing issue in his postgame last night.   All 5 years that they've been competitive(save 2018 when they were terrible at the outset and never in contention) under McDermott the same thing has happened at the same point of each season.

 

Which is a major red flag with McD. Most teams come out of the bye better yet virtually every season minus 2020 the Bills come out going through the motions. It is to the point it has cost them for years now and if he cannot clean this up maybe the time comes in a year or two to replace him.

[muppy]

1 hour ago, teef said:

i get it, but that's not necessarily how these long seasons work.  we've seen teams struggle for periods only to right the ship and gain steam.  we just have to hope it all lines up with the start of the playoffs.  we'll see.

it is early in the season. I agree with you. It's all about peaking at the perfect time. To me that means as healthy as possible and all cylinders running smoothly when it truly matters. The playoff run. To borrow a phrase I used earlier today: No way do our Bills fold like a cheap suit this season. They are made with much finer material than that.

 

.

[Greg S]

The thing that sucks here is 0-2 in the division. We were always going to lose games and 6-2 really is a nice record. At worst they need to beat the Fish and Jets at home and split with NE. Of course, I hope they sweep NE but 4-2 will be a challenge now

[Airseven]

17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Some of you have no memory whatsoever.

 

This happens every season under McDermott.........starting with the epic mid-season collapse in 2017............whatever it is,  he fails to push the right buttons and they play bad football for about a month or so.

 

Doesn't feel different in the least.

 

Past two weeks have been lousy, unfocused efforts.    Lucky to come out of it 1-1 given that neither opponent was 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars bad.  

 

If they were a road warrior playoff team it wouldn't matter.........because he usually has them tuned back up for the finish...........but he's 0-4 on the road in the playoffs so it would behoove the McBeane regime to figure out how to bypass the mid-season vacation this team takes every year.    

 

You could hear his understanding of this ongoing issue in his postgame last night.   All 5 years that they've been competitive(save 2018 when they were terrible at the outset and never in contention) under McDermott the same thing has happened at the same point of each season.

The difference being this season everyone said they’re a shoe-in for the Super Bowl. They’re not. They’re the same team that slumped last year and the same team that gaffed their season away in 13 seconds. It was always going to be an uphill climb.

[HappyDays]

42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Davis could have made the play on 4th and 21 it was a makeable play but that isn't a gimme play either. The fact is our oline failing in game on the line situations is now a pattern that you can simply not ignore. They didn't do enough last offseason. I said it then, I repeat it now. However this season ultimately ends I want the offensive line to be the absolute priority area for upgrades next offseason. Not borderline starters like Quess and Bates or total has beens like Saffold. 

 

If they make OL a heavy focus this offseason, obviously I'm fine with that. But we have examples like the Chiefs where they spent heavily on the OL and still aren't satisfied. And like every team we will have a bunch of other needs this offseason - possibly safety, WR, RB, LB. It's not as simple as pouring most of our available resources into the OL. If we do that we'll leave vulnerabilities elsewhere. I'd rather focus on adding more weapons and running a passable scheme around the players we have.

[corta765]

10 minutes ago, WideNine said:

I think we are coming into a true test of Dorsey as an OC vs Dorsey as a mentor in the QB room... hopefully just growing pains and he will figure things out, game plan better, and make better adjustments to what the defense is doing on game day

 

I agree, this is Dorseys first true test as an OC. Up until the 2nd half against GB Buffalo was having their way with teams and the only thing stopping them was self inflicted mistakes. The last 6 quarters have not only had mistakes but they have had true issues moving the ball as teams have sat with 7 in coverage while pass rushers have gotten home. Dorsey should've realized calling some plays like screens, quick slants.. etc. easy stuff would help take some of the pressure away. But when you were humming as well as the offense has for the first 6 and 1/12 games you sometimes get caught that you need to adjust faster. The Phins game they outgained and dominated the Phins in yards they just didn't close which happens. Yesterday was concerning for the lack of production. We shall see how long it takes for some answers to rise and fix these issues.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

This ^^^^.  Almost 50 years of die hard fandom and all I feel now is total stress.  I worry about losing every game, watching them physically gives my body bad reactions.  I don’t enjoy my Sundays anymore, even when they win. Sports is suppose to be a fun outlet, the NFL and the Bills are not.  It’s not the team or players fault, they haven’t felt or lived through what so many of us have.  So many of current fans, including my boys, haven’t felt or lived through almost any of it.  I’m grateful they don’t feel this sh*t like I do.
 

I JUST WANT 1.  Then I can and will move on.

I don't think that is healthy or normal. If football affects you so deeply, it might be best to take a break. Football is a game. It is supposed to entertain you.

[BillyBilliams]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Not since the Super Bowl year vs the Giants did have the feeling that Buffalo was the best team in the league, and it wasn't even close. Besides losing to an also injury depleted Jets team, most likely the #1 seed, as well a nice cushion in the division, the aura of this team since to have slipped away as well. I am not saying the attitudes of the players have changed, I am talking about people I know. Yes, Bills fans can overreact a ton after a loss, but this one feels different.

 

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

 

Mahomes definitely was the reason they lost to the Colts.  2 crucial INT's.

[Bobby Hooks]

9 minutes ago, MJS said:

I don't think that is healthy or normal. If football affects you so deeply, it might be best to take a break. Football is a game. It is supposed to entertain you.

Right. The worst part is that he said after one SB he’ll be free to move on. What? That sounds like a very unhealthy relationship. Like you said, this is supposed to be fun and entertainment. If it’s not that for him, he needs to move on. 
 

Does it suck sometimes, sure. But that’s the price you pay for the good. If the good isn’t even good, I don’t see the point. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Bobby Hooks