Week 6: Bills at CHIEFS 10/16 4:25pm

[Einstein's Dog]

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

It's not a 2 game lead for either team, because - most likely - if the team with the 2 game lead loses the two game lead, it means the other team is ahead of them.

 

It's 1.5 games... which means 1 game plus the tie-breaker. 

Not really a half game though, because if one has a tie on their record they would be ahead.  IE 13-3-1 record would be ahead of 12-4.  So more like a quarter of a game.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

This game is truly a toss up for me. So many factors and variables are in play many known and unknown. I think it comes down to poise, execution, and which QB is more spectacular. We can analyse the players, critique the lines, secondary, pass rush, etc... Of course you have to. It's about who executes better. I think on paper the Bills match up well and have the more talented players. This is a great test for both teams. No doubt every NFL fan will be watching the game. I'm pumped just thinking about it. A loss will ruin my Sunday and I will have a hard time sleeping. A victory and I'll be sleeping like a baby. Either way the Bills are in good shape at 5-1 or 4-2. I just dread having to go to KC in Jan. for a playoff game in KC. I hate the fan noise the Bills have to deal with! Let's go Buffalo!!!

 

The Chiefs have a good to great team.  The Bills have a potentially historic team and are rightly favored. If the Chiefs win it will be a close game.  If the Bills win I see equal odds on it being close versus us winning by more than 2 scores. There is almost no scenario where I see the Chiefs being able to win by 2 scores.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Big Turk

[wjag]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

The Chiefs have a good to great team.  The Bills have a potentially historic team and are rightly favored. If the Chiefs win it will be a close game.  If the Bills win I see equal odds on it being close versus us winning by more than 2 scores. There is almost no scenario where I see the Chiefs being able to win by 2 scores.

 

I think all outcomes are possible.  What I think is least likely is a blow out by either team.  What I hope doesn't happen is the Bills fall behind early and have to fight their way back in like last year's playoff game.  Put your punters on the shelf.  They won't be necessary for either team.

[The Wiz]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Pro football reference (4th Qtr comebacks):

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

 

Doesn't include this year but believe both have 1 4th qtr comeback.

 

Edited October 11, 2022 by The Wiz

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Plano said:

Bills by 30.

 

book it 

I have a big smile on my face just thinking about the ass-kicking the Bills are going to give these Chumps.

[eball]

10 minutes ago, wjag said:

What I think is least likely is a blow out by either team

 

Given the Bills' recent history, a Bills' blowout victory is hardly "least likely."  Hell, they did it against KC on the road just last year...and our team is better now.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2022 by eball

[Dukestreetking]

Great quote from ChiefsPlanet:*

 

...But man I am very worried that Von Miller is going to rape Orlando Brown Jr.

 

*Despite their reputation, their fan perceptions roughly mirror this board: respect to the opposing team (esp JA &VM) but with cautious optimism for a win.

[Scott7975]

Rank 1 Buffalo Bills 4-1

Previous rank: No. 2

 

The Steelers showed up to Western New York with a rookie quarterback making his first start and a defense playing without T.J. Watt. The results were as one-sided as you might expect: a 38-3 Bills victory that put Buffalo back in sole possession of first place in the AFC East. Josh Allen cut through 20 mph winds with ease, connecting on a pair of long TD passes to Gabriel Davis in a first half that included an absurd 348 passing yards for the star QB. Buffalo coasted from there, but Allen still managed to set a franchise record for passing yardage in a game that ended in regulation (424). When the Bills start cooking, there's not another team in the league that can handle the heat emanating from their kitchen.

[TheWeatherMan]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Given the Bills' recent history, a Bills' blowout victory is hardly "least likely."  Hell, they did it against KC on the road just last year...and our team is better now.

 

 

And they don’t have Tyreek.  Limit Kelsay’s production, don’t lose the turnover battle and don’t kick FG’s in the RZ and this game will be a Bills blowout.  

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Great quote from ChiefsPlanet:*

 

...But man I am very worried that Von Miller is going to rape Orlando Brown Jr.

 

*Despite their reputation, their fan perceptions roughly mirror this board: respect to the opposing team (esp JA &VM) but with cautious optimism for a win.

Seems like you found the one reasonable person on their board.

[wjag]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Given the Bills' recent history, a Bills' blowout victory is hardly "least likely."  Hell, they did it against KC on the road just last year...and our team is better now.

 

 

 

Different year..  Different teams.  The secondary Buffalo faced early in the season last year was getting roasted by folks.  Those guys are playing elsewhere.  I stand by my statement that I think the least likely (read not impossible, but a long shot) is a blow out by either team.  All the world will be watching this one hoping it lives up to its hype and billing.  I expect the best from both teams.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

Just now, Dukestreetking said:

Great quote from ChiefsPlanet:*

 

...But man I am very worried that Von Miller is going to rape Orlando Brown Jr.

 

*Despite their reputation, their fan perceptions roughly mirror this board: respect to the opposing team (esp JA &VM) but with cautious optimism for a win.

KC fans were awesome when I went there. Coming up to me in bars to welcome me, tell me about places to go, tell me how great Josh is and how they're worried about the game and we're so good. They're nice people who love their football. It's a perfect place to see a football game. Don't let Twitter throw you off.

[Dukestreetking]

3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Seems like you found the one reasonable person on their board.

Really? I read the entire thread. Another typical example, outside the few crazies:

 

The Bills are #1 in the league in yards per play on offense and #2 in the league in yards per play allowed on defense. The Bills are the best team in the league, and were last year, but we beat them. At home, with Mahomes, a toss-up.

 

Is that reasonable enough?

[BillsFanSD]

Spread is up to Bills (-3).  I know some of this is probably BBDS, but it's mind-blowing to see the betting public like our team so much.

[Stank_Nasty]

20 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Great quote from ChiefsPlanet:*

 

...But man I am very worried that Von Miller is going to rape Orlando Brown Jr.

 

*Despite their reputation, their fan perceptions roughly mirror this board: respect to the opposing team (esp JA &VM) but with cautious optimism for a win.

i lurked a bit over there earlier today. theres a slight bit of a "this is the bills superbowl" narrative floating around and its honestly sorta dumb. this isnt 2020. This is an early regular season game that MIGHT help or hurt seeding in january. nothing more....

 

if the bills win i'll be stoked and say "Well this doesnt really mean a ton. We'll see them again in buffalo come january". if we lose i'll be annoyed and say "Well this doesnt really mean a ton. we'll be seeing them in arrowhead come january"...

 

I'll say one thing. that places tone about the bills has done a 180 since this time last year. I think Allen going into their stadium and man handling them TWICE since then may have a bit to do with that.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Stank_Nasty

[wjag]

19 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

KC fans were awesome when I went there. Coming up to me in bars to welcome me, tell me about places to go, tell me how great Josh is and how they're worried about the game and we're so good. They're nice people who love their football. It's a perfect place to see a football game. Don't let Twitter throw you off.

 

I haven't been there, but I have no doubt about this.  

9 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Spread is up to Bills (-3).  I know some of this is probably BBDS, but it's mind-blowing to see the betting public like our team so much.

 

 

I'm very surprised by this.  Nick Wright must be apoplectic over it.  He was railing against Buffalo -14.  This has to be the ultimate insult.  🙂  

 

 

Edited October 11, 2022 by wjag

[Greg S]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Spread is up to Bills (-3).  I know some of this is probably BBDS, but it's mind-blowing to see the betting public like our team so much.

 

The NFL is a week to week league. The Bills just destroyed the Steelers and had the game won by halftime. KC struggled with the Raiders so I am not surprised that money is coming in on Buffalo.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

4 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

I haven't been there, but I have no doubt about this.  

Man I wish I's was going back out this week, the energy was electric and I have adrenaline thinking about it.

 

They do this thing at the end of the national anthem as the singer says "and the home, of the..." the stadium roars "CHIEFS!" I got such a kick out of that, I looked at the redshirts around me and said Okay KC! and we had a laugh. I did the tomahawk chop along with them, that ***** is great, co-opting that energy for our boys of course like Renegade in Pittsburgh. The banging of the drum before the game is really cool too, they bring out a "legend" to do it. Think noise, intensity, vibrating energy. All game.

 

All game because they do not quit. Reid and Mahomes have conditioned those people to expect comebacks. They can be down multiple scores with 6-7 minutes left and they're still BANG into it, as the Brits say. I love that! And not just on third down. This is part of what our Bills are up against. No matter what, they expect to win. They don't go all sad and gloomy. Some other fanbases might learn a thing or two I might say!

[Stank_Nasty]

12 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

I haven't been there, but I have no doubt about this.  

 

 

I'm very surprised by this.  Nick Wright must be apoplectic over it.  He was railing against Buffalo -14.  This has to be the ultimate insult.  🙂  

he just threw a toddler tantrum on tv about it. Then went on to say a Bills win means nothing because it meant nothing in the long run last year, but a bills loss would be devastating. 

 

Same dude that last week said Allen wasnt even in his top 4 for MVP...... All this after saying all offseason he feared and respected Allen. The dude just cant help himself. I said last week, and i still believe this, he must have realized he's much more marketable when he's railing on the Bills because he's been beating that drum louder and louder with each coming week.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

he just threw a toddler tantrum on tv about it. Then went on to say a Bills win means nothing because it meant nothing in the long run last year, but a bills loss would be devastating. 

 

Same dude that last week said Allen wasnt even in his top 4 for MVP...... All this after saying all offseason he feared and respected Allen. The dude just cant help himself. I said last week, and i still believe this, he must have realized he's much more marketable when he's railing on the Bills because he's been beating that drum louder and louder with each coming week.

Is he secretly @FilthyBeast?

[Process]

33 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Great quote from ChiefsPlanet:*

 

...But man I am very worried that Von Miller is going to rape Orlando Brown Jr.

 

*Despite their reputation, their fan perceptions roughly mirror this board: respect to the opposing team (esp JA &VM) but with cautious optimism for a win.

Dumbest group of people on the internet 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

What a huge game early in the season. Why do we always play them at their place?

[eball]

31 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

KC fans were awesome when I went there. Coming up to me in bars to welcome me, tell me about places to go, tell me how great Josh is and how they're worried about the game and we're so good. They're nice people who love their football. It's a perfect place to see a football game. Don't let Twitter throw you off.

 

Those same individuals apparently do not frequent their message board.  Cretans.

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

We take this one, and take care of business the rest of the season for the most part....the #1 seed is ours. This is easily the biggest game of the year, and I can't wait to get revenge of these fools. Bills by 13. 

[eball]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Is he secretly @FilthyBeast?

 

I don't know about that, but he's filthy.  I mean, he just looks dirty.  Like he hasn't showered.

 

[The Wiz]

31 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Really? I read the entire thread. Another typical example, outside the few crazies:

 

The Bills are #1 in the league in yards per play on offense and #2 in the league in yards per play allowed on defense. The Bills are the best team in the league, and were last year, but we beat them. At home, with Mahomes, a toss-up.

 

Is that reasonable enough?

Well I haven't read their site yet about this game but last year was a different story. 

 

Granted, the Bills were kind of up and down in the middle of the year so I suppose it was warranted. 

 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Those same individuals apparently do not frequent their message board.  Cretans.

 

i saw last week, while i was skulking around there in anticipation for this game, they had a 50 page "Are the bills overhyped" thread going on.... shoulda seen a couple of comments when the Hyde news came out. Dudes flat out rooting for it with comments like "good. stay down" and .... "stay down b****"... real classy. 

 

..... also i got a kick out of a season long 50 page bills thread on their front page.... can you say "rent free"????... also i understand theres irony in this comment as i admitted to checking out their board. 😂

Edited October 11, 2022 by Stank_Nasty

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

2 hours ago, NickelCity said:

I think the performance of our offensive line against their defensive line is going to be pivotal in this game.

Correct x100. It’s the key to the game. It’s not getting stops against Mahomes. That’s not happening. It’s all about keeping up with him and that’s both (a) keeping josh upright to hit the big plays and (b) running the ball some at least to keep it away from Mahomes. 

[Sestak4ever]

15 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

he just threw a toddler tantrum on tv about it. Then went on to say a Bills win means nothing because it meant nothing in the long run last year, but a bills loss would be devastating. 

 

Same dude that last week said Allen wasnt even in his top 4 for MVP...... All this after saying all offseason he feared and respected Allen. The dude just cant help himself. I said last week, and i still believe this, he must have realized he's much more marketable when he's railing on the Bills because he's been beating that drum louder and louder with each coming week.

What do you expect from a guy with an 11 year old girl’s voice.😆

[Scott7975]

18 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

he just threw a toddler tantrum on tv about it. Then went on to say a Bills win means nothing because it meant nothing in the long run last year, but a bills loss would be devastating. 

 

Same dude that last week said Allen wasnt even in his top 4 for MVP...... All this after saying all offseason he feared and respected Allen. The dude just cant help himself. I said last week, and i still believe this, he must have realized he's much more marketable when he's railing on the Bills because he's been beating that drum louder and louder with each coming week.

 

How would a Bills loss be devastating? If the win meant nothing than a loss would also mean nothing.

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

How would a Bills loss be devastating? If the win meant nothing than a loss would also mean nothing.

Because he overexaggerates everything. Just like 99% of talking heads.

[Sestak4ever]

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

How would a Bills loss be devastating? If the win meant nothing than a loss would also mean nothing.

He’s playing both sides of the fence. Prepping himself so he can’t lose.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

The Chiefs have a good to great team.  The Bills have a potentially historic team and are rightly favored. If the Chiefs win it will be a close game.  If the Bills win I see equal odds on it being close versus us winning by more than 2 scores. There is almost no scenario where I see the Chiefs being able to win by 2 scores.

Does it really matter? A win is a win no matter the margin. Just ask the Raiders. Your point is really kind of strange. Where do you get the Bills have "potentially an historic team?" What does that even mean? I'm pumped about the game and think the Bills are slightly the better team. However, KC gets a huge home field edge too. 

[newcam2012]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

The injury status of the Bills roster is the defining factor of this game, in my mind.

I am confident that if Buffalo has Poyer, Edmunds, Knox, and McKenzie on the field, they can win this game. 

If they are missing any or all of those guys, my confidence in a victory goes down significantly.

At the end of the day, I have the gnawing feeling that last year's script will be reversed: We'll drop this game to KC in the regular season (largely due to injury depletion and missing guys like Tre White), but then beat them in the playoffs. I'd take that trade-off.

One thing's for sure: This game very well may decide the #1 seed in the AFC playoffs. Big, big game.

I think this is the game that the Bills injuries will really rear it's ugly head. The KC offense with Mahomes and Kelce are so dangerous. Reid will haveca great game plan to attack the Bills holes. Bill's should be able to stop the KC run. Phillips health is a big deal too. The Bills need to force KC to throw. The pass rush has to be relentless, disruptive, and (contain as much ad possible) Mahomes from running. I'd go back and look at the Tampa tape and the Cinci tape. If Fraizer sits in a bend but don't break defense the Bills will get shredded. Conversely, the same can be said for the Chiefs. Strange...

 

[Warcodered]

All this talk about Bills vs. Chiefs, Josh Allen vs. Patrick Mahomes, Bills twitter knows the important questions.

 

 

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

All this talk about Bills vs. Chiefs, Josh Allen vs. Patrick Mahomes, Bills twitter knows the important questions.

 

 

I'm taking blastoise.

 

 

[Bills2022]

1 hour ago, BillsFanSD said:

Spread is up to Bills (-3).  I know some of this is probably BBDS, but it's mind-blowing to see the betting public like our team so much.

 

Bills are just a better team than the Chiefs.  There really is no excuse for the Bills to lose this game.  If the Bills play their A game this game could get ugly. The Chiefs are not an elite team any longer.  I think the same could be said for the Bucs.  Many of us probably though the Chiefs win over the Bucs was much more impressive than it really was. Both teams are clearly a step below the Bills.

 

 The Bills are now a heavy favorite to win the Super Bowl.  MGM has them as low as 3.25-1.  They should be too.  This is the best team in the NFL by quite a bit.

 

Edited October 11, 2022 by Bills2022

[YoloinOhio]

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[NewEra]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I too like Cowheard and he's right. He's a huge Allen fan but he rightfully identifies the Bills biggest flaw in closing out close games. Our run game has yet to be established and we ask JA to do 95% of the heavy lifting. It's just not sustainable. Especially in the playoffs. 

No..it’s especially sustainable in the playoffs.  Josh will be our running game in the playoffs. He should be.  He’s a monster and is better than running backs.  In the regular season, it may not be sustainable because it’s 17.  Over the course of 3-4 playoff games….. it’s likely sustainable imo.  We just have to get him to the playoffs healthy.  

[97bills]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No..it’s especially sustainable in the playoffs.  Josh will be our running game in the playoffs. He should be.  He’s a monster and is better than running backs.  In the regular season, it may not be sustainable because it’s 17.  Over the course of 3-4 playoff games….. it’s likely sustainable imo.  We just have to get him to the playoffs healthy.  

Your right do whatever it takes to win in the playoffs but I still rather have a running game. I want Allen around for 15 more years and the older he gets those hits will hurt a lot more.