Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: There's gotta be a way you can creatively bracket him better than Vegas did. I just find it difficult to believe such a dominant TE can't be doubled? I mean outside of the TDs they did a good job on him. He had like 7 catches for 25 yards. The Chiefs got down the field without Kelce and then just scored with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I mean outside of the TDs they did a good job on him. He had like 7 catches for 25 yards. The Chiefs got down the field without Kelce and then just scored with him. That’s like saying the Titanic did a good job with the iceberg,, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kelce doesn't run a 4.3 There's gotta be a way to hybrid bracket him. What about Milano with help from Poyer or Taron. Take away Homes' favorite target and you might see some frustration show up in his game. We can't just let him run around wide open. You've got DC's getting paid millions of dollars with jobs on the line. You don't think if there was a way to do it without significantly compromising the rest of their defense that they would have already done it? My best guess is to beat the hell out of him at the line, especially when he is inline...have a DE hammer him every single play to try and wear him down over the course of the game. Edited October 11, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: That’s like saying the Titanic did a good job with the iceberg,, Not really. They didnt cover him in the endzone. That was a breakdown. The entire rest of the field he did nothing. My over all point was the raiders got torched by both the run game and their other receivers. Their problem up and down the field wasnt Kelce. It was they stopped getting pressure on Mahomes. Edited October 11, 2022 by Scott7975 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I mean outside of the TDs they did a good job on him. He had like 7 catches for 25 yards. The Chiefs got down the field without Kelce and then just scored with him. Yeah, 4TD’s aren’t an indicator of his overall performance tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: People still don't understand the most important role in this offense for an RB is pass pro, and Moss is one of the best RB's in pass pro in the NFL. Why not just put an offense tackle back there then ? *sarcasm off* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Bills2022 said: We lost to the Jaguars last year. Teams lose a game like that every year. But it is usually just 1 game. It is going to be almost impossible for either team to make up 2 games on the other and 1 of these teams is going to be the #1 seed. The rest of the AFC is nothing to get excited about. Excellent work. Only took until the 2nd page to get a “Remember The Jags!” reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: You've got DC's getting paid millions of dollars with jobs on the line. You don't think if there was a way to do it without significantly compromising the rest of their defense that they would have already done it? My best guess is to beat the hell out of him at the line, especially when he is inline...have a DE hammer him every single play to try and wear him down over the course of the game. This. And maybe switch to a 3-4 defense. 2 extra LB'S to cover the middle probably wouldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: This. And maybe switch to a 3-4 defense. 2 extra LB'S to cover the middle probably wouldn't hurt. One does not simply "switch to a 3-4 defense" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Jason Witten was like Kelce had average speed but had one really patented move and always was open. Don’t have to be an athletic freak in the NFL 90 percent of the game is technique. Still I like Milano and Edmunds chances against Kelce much better then the crap I saw in Vegas. That team defensively is atrocious to begin with and they still should have won if Adams simply gets another foot down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I went to bed at half time, but I knew the raiders would find a way to blow it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Hmm I just checked Sportrac and there are couple of things I didn't see posted here: CB Ja'Marcus Ingram no longer on the Bills roster (only 52 players there). S Jared Mayden signed on PS. PS is not that relevant but if Ingram was indeed cut I wonder what that means. Edited October 11, 2022 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm I just checked Sportrac and there are couple of things I didn't see posted here: CB Ja'Marcus Ingram no longer on the Bills roster (only 52 players there). S Jared Mayden signed on PS. PS is not that relevant but if Ingram was indeed cut I wonder what that means. Tra?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm I just checked Sportrac and there are couple of things I didn't see posted here: CB Ja'Marcus Ingram no longer on the Bills roster (only 52 players there). S Jared Mayden signed on PS. PS is not that relevant but if Ingram was indeed cut I wonder what that means. Ingram was in fact released. The roster currently stands at 52. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Kansas City is playin on a short week, after a huge comeback. I am hoping that we are their let down game and we take the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: One does not simply "switch to a 3-4 defense" Didn't the Bengals play a 4-3 last season but switched to a 3-4 when they played the Chiefs in the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Kansas City is playin on a short week, after a huge comeback. I am hoping that we are their let down game and we take the conference. I doubt it. If anything I think the Chiefs were having a letdown last night (down 17-0) before realizing we have to win before we get to the Bills. Neither team is having a letdown next weekend. It will be hyped as one of the biggest regular season games this year. Probably the biggest in the AFC with the #1 seed possibly on the line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Didn't the Bengals play a 4-3 last season but switched to a 3-4 when they played the Chiefs in the playoffs? No, they put in 8+ DBs, sometimes taking off a DL and also a LB. I could see the Bills trying that if White and Benford were healthy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: No, they put in 8+ DBs, sometimes taking off a DL and also a LB. I could see the Bills trying that if White and Benford were healthy... Thanks. I new they were only rushing 3 and had a spy. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopelessNJBuffaloFan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This is definitely going to be the hardest test for the Bills. Mahomes is definitely elite. We have seen that we can hang with the Chiefs and actually beat them. The Bills are going to have to play a near perfect game to have a shot here. The things that give me hope on this game: 1. The Chiefs secondary can easily be picked on. If Carr can do it, then Allen can do more damage. 2. The Raiders were all over that offensive line last night. If everyone healthy, we can easily do the same as we have a much better Defensive line. 3. You can run all over the KC defensive line. (Ok, not exactly our strength, but should be easier as KC is going to play to Josh's strength) The rest is just going to be great football. If we win our main competition for tops in AFC is 2 games behind! Hate the wait, but Lets Go Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said: This. And maybe switch to a 3-4 defense. 2 extra LB'S to cover the middle probably wouldn't hurt. That's never happening...no way they would take a DB off the field to put an extra LB out there 27 minutes ago, HopelessNJBuffaloFan said: This is definitely going to be the hardest test for the Bills. Mahomes is definitely elite. We have seen that we can hang with the Chiefs and actually beat them. The Bills are going to have to play a near perfect game to have a shot here. The things that give me hope on this game: 1. The Chiefs secondary can easily be picked on. If Carr can do it, then Allen can do more damage. 2. The Raiders were all over that offensive line last night. If everyone healthy, we can easily do the same as we have a much better Defensive line. 3. You can run all over the KC defensive line. (Ok, not exactly our strength, but should be easier as KC is going to play to Josh's strength) The rest is just going to be great football. If we win our main competition for tops in AFC is 2 games behind! Hate the wait, but Lets Go Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see it the other way. The Bills are a better team. I think KC is the team that needs to play a near perfect game to have a shot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: That's never happening...no way they would take a DB off the field to put an extra LB out there I see it the other way. The Bills are a better team. I think KC is the team that needs to play a near perfect game to have a shot. We need to be healthy for this one. I know we have won some games with our injured lineup. That won't be the case here. Really need to get everyone back for this one if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Chief reserve DE Tershawn Wharton torn ACL last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, HopelessNJBuffaloFan said: This is definitely going to be the hardest test for the Bills. Mahomes is definitely elite. We have seen that we can hang with the Chiefs and actually beat them. The Bills are going to have to play a near perfect game to have a shot here. The things that give me hope on this game: 1. The Chiefs secondary can easily be picked on. If Carr can do it, then Allen can do more damage. 2. The Raiders were all over that offensive line last night. If everyone healthy, we can easily do the same as we have a much better Defensive line. 3. You can run all over the KC defensive line. (Ok, not exactly our strength, but should be easier as KC is going to play to Josh's strength) The rest is just going to be great football. If we win our main competition for tops in AFC is 2 games behind! Hate the wait, but Lets Go Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bills have played some of their very best football at arrowhead last two times they went there and I’ll expect the same especially with a rest advantage. Biggest thing is the offense putting up points early and TDs over FGs. Pressure mahomes with 4. Edited October 11, 2022 by YoloinOhio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Cover Kelce and don't blitz Mahomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Gonna be tough…Chiefs have the edge as their wins are one score games typically…they have grit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Call was legit. Came down with his weight on top of Carr. Now the one on Brady? Clean , textbook QB sack while he’s in the pocket. I hate that I'm defending a chef but he had the ball in one arm and attempted to brace with the other. Flag shouldn't have been thrown. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Negan said: Cover Kelce and don't blitz Mahomes don't blitz mahomes but we need to rush him. with our current DL we have the talent to get pressure on him with 3 or 4 DL. the delayed rush and stunt game can cause him to pop off a throw from the hip and those are getable balls. we are built to beat this team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, TH3 said: Gonna be tough…Chiefs have the edge as their wins are one score games typically…they have grit Bills at Ravens - Bills have grit as well. They usually kick the crap out of the other team so most of their wins are by two scores or more. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, TH3 said: Gonna be tough…Chiefs have the edge as their wins are one score games typically…they have grit Counterpoint, why are they needing grit to squeak by everyone? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Shelby Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Counterpoint, why are they needing grit to squeak by everyone? Because we need to win by one score. C'mon man! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Josh is going to have to feast on their secondary. We cannot run the ball like Oakland. They have a much better run blocking unit and way better RB than us. D needs to clamp down in the redzone and get them to FG or 4th down attempts.. Hopefully Poyer suits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Nextmanup said: That's what Sunday is ALL ABOUT. Mahomes is 9-0 AT HOME in the playoffs. WE HAVE TO GET THOSE BASTARDS IN ORCHARD PARK. Didn’t the Bungles just beat them at home in the playoffs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 All I know is if the playoffs started today, the Jets would be playing the Ravens. Things are crazy 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 hours ago, gobills404 said: It seemed like Kermit has been throwing a lot of easy goal-to-go TDs this season, so I looked into it. Average length of TD throws: Mahomes - 7.6 yards Allen - 26.7 yards As I was watching the game last night, it occurred to me that if you let them inside the 20, they are so creative as to be unstoppable. The play has to be to keep them outside the 20s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Good test for our front4, that’s where we have made the biggest improvement. Sunday should show us if we done enough. Like to have our secondary fully healthy but that ain’t happening. Let’s just hope Po is ready to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This game is come down to Oline and Secondary play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Counterpoint, why are they needing grit to squeak by everyone? Sometimes my deadpan humor is tough to read in a post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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