Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 What a terrible job from start to finish with that guy. Completely overmatched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Rivera will be next, shortly. With an outside chance of Dan Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just throwing this out there - if we trade for McCaffrey we'd only be responsible for about $600K of his salary this year and could cut him in the offseason with zero dead cap. We're in our Super Bowl window. What do we have to lose? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Rivera will be next, shortly. With an outside chance of Dan Campbell.  Zac Taylor going to be a "surprise" fire if he doesnt get things straightened out in Cincy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Matt Rhule will survive with his paid 4 years of fully funded vacation. When he's ready to come back to coaching, he'll have a line of middle to top college programs waiting to hire him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Zac Taylor going to be a "surprise" fire if he doesnt get things straightened out in Cincy.  I can't see that this year. Post SB loss hangover. He gets another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Just throwing this out there - if we trade for McCaffrey we'd only be responsible for about $600K of his salary this year and could cut him in the offseason with zero dead cap. We're in our Super Bowl window. What do we have to lose? Depends on what kind of draft pick Carolina wants back in compensation. If it’s either a 1st or second round pick then the answer would obviously be NO!!! If it’s a 5th-7th round pick then fine. But I doubt the panthers would settle for anything less than an early 2nd or 3rd. 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Matt Rhule will survive with his paid 4 years of fully funded vacation. When he's ready to come back to coaching, he'll have a line of middle to top college programs waiting to hire him. Agreed, he’s a solid college coach. I would use the next 4 years as a vacation and possibly do some commentating before going back into coaching Edited October 10, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just being reported Baker Mayfield has a high ankle sprain so it looks like Sam Darnold will be the defacto starter for the new coach moving forward for a while.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Have there been any recent coaching hires from College that have had success in the NFL? They all seem to be terrible...even the best college coach ever in Nick Saban couldn't hack it. Nick saban wasn’t even in Miami a year lol it doesn’t count  Especially when he told his GM to go sign free agent Drew Brees… Who was perfect for his system  For a washed up Dante Culpepper  You don’t pay a coach that much money and then not listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Doc said:  I can't see that this year. Post SB loss hangover. He gets another year.  Likely, yes. But the fans are already "saving their postage" to put up a billboard.  If he doesnt get the OL and play calling figured out soon, the seat is going to get hotter.  Edited October 10, 2022 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:  Zac Taylor going to be a "surprise" fire if he doesnt get things straightened out in Cincy. I couldn’t believe after the game Burrow said there’s just nothing down the field if teams play defense against us like this..  Uhhhhh welcome to buffalo and KC in 2021… Time to adjust young man. The crazy thing is they have Joe Mixon who carried them through parts of the season last year and he is the key to stopping the two deep safety looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Rivera will be next, shortly. With an outside chance of Dan Campbell. I watched the show on HBO; Dan Campbell seems to have his head in the right place, but he also seems to think that successful programs come about from the right pep talk and "culture", instead of intelligently thought out actions.  He'll be gone eventually.  It's not like he isn't making money trying though.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Southern_Bills said:  I never understood the coaches that could be very comfortable doing well at mid level schools but risk it all for an NFL job.  Its ego. They already have millions they wonder if they are as smart as NFL coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Bozeman or Jordan worth targeting for interior OL? Both on last year of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:  Zac Taylor going to be a "surprise" fire if he doesnt get things straightened out in Cincy. No way. The bengals had Marvin Lewis on their payroll for 15 years. Bengals owners are very patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Surprised it came this early. I was told by someone in the know to expect the Panthers to chase a big name when the inevitable Rhule firing came. Watch Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh. I don't see either wanting to take that on. Harbaugh has said no to better talent than the Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: No way. The bengals had Marvin Lewis on their payroll for 15 years. Bengals owners are very patient  Good point, but I'm not sure they are still so patient. Especially when their Golden Boy is getting crushed like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: The panthers were interested in firing him last year, per folks i know. They did not fire him at the end of the year for many reasons - but from what I understood - they did not have a plan of succession. Rhule wanted to be fired in Dec. last year to go get a college gig.  they moved now to get the guy off their pocketbooks and now have a plan to finish the season. they already have a list and hoping to get a defensive target but i haven't heard a name.  from what i heard Rhule wants to take a year off at this point and eager to get back to college.  So I hear the same story except what I was told is that they are targeting a "big name" hire next and it probably will be someone who has been a HC before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: A lot is made about college coaches not working out, but plenty of hot shot NFL coordinators fail too, not to mention recycled good ole boys club members Here's a thread on a Carolina board: https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/179578-matt-rhule-fired/#comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Considering the Carolina to Buffalo pipeline, I expect him to become our assistant ball boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  So I hear the same story except what I was told is that they are targeting a "big name" hire next and it probably will be someone who has been a HC before. i haven't heard about the "big name," just know that there is a specific target and list of who/what they want. the way i understood it was the target wasn't available in January which doesn't make sense. 2 hours ago, Beck Water said:  What a Surprise.  I'm kinda torn between pity for Baker Mayfield - 5 years in the league, and the only year he got to spend a second season with the same coach and OC he was injured - and the feeling he's been "hoist by his own petard" in lobbying for Kitchens as both OC and head coach his 2nd season.   So what is this plan to finish the season? One would hope a team wouldn't fire a guy in early October without it.  By the way, Rhule is apparently far from "off the books". They'll be paying him for 3+ years, apparently. Shades of Wrecks Ryan.  1 hour ago, Limeaid said:  Off their pocketbooks? Coaching contracts are guarenteed unless something very severe occurs.  I wonder how NFL front office would react if he tried to sign a current DC as head coach. the contract is tied to if he gets another offer or contract which offsets the balance the Panthers owe him. this was written online at a few places, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Just being reported Baker Mayfield has a high ankle sprain so it looks like Sam Darnold will be the defacto starter for the new coach moving forward for a while....  Darnold is expected to miss another few weeks with his own injury (also a high ankle sprain)  The Panthers are going to be starting PJ Walker 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: i haven't heard about the "big name," just know that there is a specific target and list of who/what they want. the way i understood it was the target wasn't available in January which doesn't make sense. Â Â Would only make sense if that guy is a current NFL Head Coach. Big name, defensive, current HC..... Belichick?!? Carroll?!? Tomlin?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:  Would only make sense if that guy is a current NFL Head Coach. Big name, defensive, current HC..... Belichick?!? Carroll?!? Tomlin?!? Why would anybody go there from another situation? That sounds like Bills' fans fantasies of getting Bill Cower to come to Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Surprised it came this early. I was told by someone in the know to expect the Panthers to chase a big name when the inevitable Rhule firing came. Watch Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh.  Harbaugh claimed his interview with Minnesota last year were his last look into the pros. Obviously that could be a bunch of crap, but He claims he is done chasing the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Dang, fired their DC today too. The OC is the only one left in the building, holding the bag 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Just throwing this out there - if we trade for McCaffrey we'd only be responsible for about $600K of his salary this year and could cut him in the offseason with zero dead cap. We're in our Super Bowl window. What do we have to lose? Cap space for a guy who's not going to run well with how our O-line is blocking anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, cle23 said:  Harbaugh claimed his interview with Minnesota last year were his last look into the pros. Obviously that could be a bunch of crap, but He claims he is done chasing the NFL.  I mean I don't believe a word out of Jim Harbaugh's mouth. If he told me today was Monday I'd throw my calendar away and presume it was wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Â Would only make sense if that guy is a current NFL Head Coach. Big name, defensive, current HC..... Belichick?!? Carroll?!? Tomlin?!? the name everyone online linking and the only actual name that is big - though not heard - is Sean Payton. Â I don't see him going there and I don't see them hiring an offensive dude. Â Belichick has no connection to Carolina, nor do the others. Â Raheem Morris, DeMeco Ryans.... not big names but good candidates. Â Oh gosh, please be Rex Ryan!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: i haven't heard about the "big name," just know that there is a specific target and list of who/what they want. the way i understood it was the target wasn't available in January which doesn't make sense. Â the contract is tied to if he gets another offer or contract which offsets the balance the Panthers owe him. this was written online at a few places, as well. Â 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Â Would only make sense if that guy is a current NFL Head Coach. Big name, defensive, current HC..... Belichick?!? Carroll?!? Tomlin?!? Â My money is on Leslie Frazier. Not a current HC, but was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dang, fired their DC today too. The OC is the only one left in the building, holding the bag 🤣  Steve Wilks will call the defense as well as serve as HC I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Â I mean I don't believe a word out of Jim Harbaugh's mouth. If he told me today was Monday I'd throw my calendar away and presume it was wrong. thought the same thing with Harbaugh, he ain't leaving. Â i'd love to see Ryans or Morris geta shot down in Carolina - Carolina always is more fun with a strong D. 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Â Â My money is on Leslie Frazier. Not a current HC, but was one. He's not a "big name" in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Local Charlotte radio reporting DC Snowe in out also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: He's not a "big name" in my books.  We're spoiled 🤣  I get what you're saying, but really, anyone associated with the current Bills is a big name nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Tanoros said: Extremes are never the right answer. Carrol won a SB after coming from the college ranks.  Yes but he was also an NFL coach prior to going to the college ranks.  Just think that in the case of guys like Rhule, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, etc there is a reason why they all failed miserably at the NFL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Why would anybody go there from another situation? That sounds like Bills' fans fantasies of getting Bill Cower to come to Buffalo. They have a really nice core of young players. The division is getting weaker by the day. If a coach felt they could win with any of those quarterbacks it’s a really nice job to step into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Â Yes but he was also an NFL coach prior to going to the college ranks. Â Just think that in the case of guys like Rhule, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, etc there is a reason why they all failed miserably at the NFL level. Â Saban wasnt around long enough to be considered a failure, imo. He just got a better offer and knew College was a better place to be. Â I get that as a Dolphins fan, you may feel differently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 University of Buffalo guy. Â I had no idea. Â Certain many of you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: the contract is tied to if he gets another offer or contract which offsets the balance the Panthers owe him. this was written online at a few places, as well. Â LOL so if your source is correct that Rhule wants to take a year off, they're still paying him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I mean, he did have multiple 1st round draft picks starting for him at QB! 🤷🏼‍♂️🫣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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