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Week 5: Steelers at Bills 10/9 1pm


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14 hours ago, HeHateMe said:

These injuries are getting ridiculous.. We are putting an awful lot on Allen's shoulders to carry this team.  Don't like it.

We don't have much of a choice unfortunately. Its a long season. Let's sit some players and get healthy before KC or for GB after the bye. Then we can go on our run. 

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40 minutes ago, EffKCChiefs said:

We don't have much of a choice unfortunately. Its a long season. Let's sit some players and get healthy before KC or for GB after the bye. Then we can go on our run. 

What would be really Helpful right now is if we could find a running game so that Josh doesn’t have to throw it 1 million times to win this game

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Colin Cowherd said it best Sean McDermott has been in Buffalo for 6 years and has absolutely no idea how to build a running game.


We don’t really invest in the oline whether it’s free agency or the draft in relation to other positions which is the backbone of any run game.

 

The run blocking numbers for this version of the Bills is one of the 5 worst in football. Leaving number 17 to once again put on his cape. 
 

It is what it is. 

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11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Colin Cowherd said it best Sean McDermott has been in Buffalo for 6 years and has absolutely no idea how to build a running game.


We don’t really invest in the oline whether it’s free agency or the draft in relation to other positions which is the backbone of any run game.

 

The run blocking numbers for this version of the Bills is one of the 5 worst in football. Leaving number 17 to once again put on his cape. 
 

It is what it is. 

 

Sean McDermott doesn't coach offense.

 

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13 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Colin Cowherd said it best Sean McDermott has been in Buffalo for 6 years and has absolutely no idea how to build a running game.


We don’t really invest in the oline whether it’s free agency or the draft in relation to other positions which is the backbone of any run game.

 

The run blocking numbers for this version of the Bills is one of the 5 worst in football. Leaving number 17 to once again put on his cape. 
 

It is what it is. 


Cowherd has been on-air for years and doesn’t know how to build an objective, reasonable thought. 

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21 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Colin Cowherd said it best Sean McDermott has been in Buffalo for 6 years and has absolutely no idea how to build a running game.


We don’t really invest in the oline whether it’s free agency or the draft in relation to other positions which is the backbone of any run game.

 

The run blocking numbers for this version of the Bills is one of the 5 worst in football. Leaving number 17 to once again put on his cape. 
 

It is what it is. 

They don't put a premium on RBs or guards and they accept the outcome.

 

Teams that win the Super Bowl play great defense and have a high scoring offense, no matter how they do it.

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9 minutes ago, bobobonators said:


Cowherd has been on-air for years and doesn’t know how to build an objective, reasonable thought. 

That’s never his intention though. He gives takes that make people react, he goes to the extremes for a reason-it’s made him a lot of money

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28 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I just got a letter from the Bills informing me that I’ve been placed on IR.

 

I got a letter from the government the other day...

I opened and read it...

It said they were suckers!

They wanted me for their army or whatever...

Picture me giving a damn?!? I said NEVER!

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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

The X-factor of a team that gives us trouble being against the ropes, trying to ignite their offense by turning to a rookie QB, who seems willing to let it rip and give his guys chances to make plays down the field, in his first start, on the road against a TOP (but dinged up, especially in the secondary) defense...

 

This is what has some fans feeling a bit uneasy. And I can't say I'm not wrestling with the same irrational worries. But objectively, come on...the Bills should do damage this week.

The same rookie QB that threw interceptions on 23% of his pass attempts in his only NFL playing time?  

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7 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

The same rookie QB that threw interceptions on 23% of his pass attempts in his only NFL playing time?  

I wouldn't really knock him for 2/3 of the picks. 

 

1 was right to Claypool that he basically dropped into the defenders hands.   Another was a hail Mary.

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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Colin Cowherd said it best Sean McDermott has been in Buffalo for 6 years and has absolutely no idea how to build a running game.


We don’t really invest in the oline whether it’s free agency or the draft in relation to other positions which is the backbone of any run game.

 

The run blocking numbers for this version of the Bills is one of the 5 worst in football. Leaving number 17 to once again put on his cape. 
 

It is what it is. 


You guys actually take Cowherd seriously??

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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

The X-factor of a team that gives us trouble being against the ropes, trying to ignite their offense by turning to a rookie QB, who seems willing to let it rip and give his guys chances to make plays down the field, in his first start, on the road against a TOP (but dinged up, especially in the secondary) defense...

 

This is what has some fans feeling a bit uneasy. And I can't say I'm not wrestling with the same irrational worries. But objectively, come on...the Bills should do damage this week.

 

There is that "noob X factor".  After completing ~55% of his passes, 2 picks, and getting thumped by the Chargers, Allen went into Minnesota with the Bills as HUGE underdogs and fed the Purple People into a chipper (27-6).

 

The thing is, Allen has always had that "don't count me out" "any given Sunday" Underdog Factor about him.   I'm not sure that's Kenny Pickett.  He is that "let it rip" guy, though, which Trubisky was not.

 

I would feel much better if we had Poyer in the backfield.  I think he and Hyde are about equal in field generalship and setting up the rest of the backfield with disguised coverage, and as long as we have one of them, play doesn't seem to fall off much. 

 

I do think we're ahead of where we were in Miami when Dane Jackson was out as well, but while he's ahead of Hamlin and either Johnson or Lewis in the learning curve, he's not the crafty vet and the player coach Dr Poyer is.

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I don’t know why everyone is so worried. I look at it as they are without Big Ben, Smith-Schuster, TJ Watt and Melvin Ingram. Think about how we would’ve won last year if those players weren’t playing on Pittsburg. 
 

Also we have some no name guy called Von Miller this year. Anyone ever heard of him? 

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25 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

There is that "noob X factor".  After completing ~55% of his passes, 2 picks, and getting thumped by the Chargers, Allen went into Minnesota with the Bills as HUGE underdogs and fed the Purple People into a chipper (27-6).

 

The thing is, Allen has always had that "don't count me out" "any given Sunday" Underdog Factor about him.   I'm not sure that's Kenny Pickett.  He is that "let it rip" guy, though, which Trubisky was not.

 

I would feel much better if we had Poyer in the backfield.  I think he and Hyde are about equal in field generalship and setting up the rest of the backfield with disguised coverage, and as long as we have one of them, play doesn't seem to fall off much. 

 

I do think we're ahead of where we were in Miami when Dane Jackson was out as well, but while he's ahead of Hamlin and either Johnson or Lewis in the learning curve, he's not the crafty vet and the player coach Dr Poyer is.

We remember that Vikings game as the Josh Allen coming out party, but looking back at the stats it was as much on the Bills D as on Allen. Milano had a pick and a sack. The Vikings were held scoreless through 3 quarters. If the Steelers are able to do that to the BIlls (doubtful), then they have a really good shot to win the game. 

 

Also, the huge line was because the Bills had been awful through two games and it was only game 3 of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota. There was still hope that Cousins would turn to be elite. Spoiler alert: he didn't.

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16 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Not saying anything that isn’t obvious and I could say Greg Cosell too 

 

JMO, but Greg Cosell and Colin Cowherd don't belong in the same sentence unless that sentence is:

"Cowherd is an entertainer who has a job talking about football, about which he knows a little.  Greg Cosell is a serious football film nerd consulted by coaches and GMs, who has been so well known for it that they pull him out of his film room and make him talk to people.

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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

I wouldn't really knock him for 2/3 of the picks. 

 

1 was right to Claypool that he basically dropped into the defenders hands.   Another was a hail Mary.

Fair enough. If you take those 2 passes away, he is throwing an int with about 10% of his passes. (I know it’s a small sample)

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1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

We remember that Vikings game as the Josh Allen coming out party, but looking back at the stats it was as much on the Bills D as on Allen. Milano had a pick and a sack. The Vikings were held scoreless through 3 quarters. If the Steelers are able to do that to the BIlls (doubtful), then they have a really good shot to win the game. 

 

Also, the huge line was because the Bills had been awful through two games and it was only game 3 of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota. There was still hope that Cousins would turn to be elite. Spoiler alert: he didn't.

 

We are not the Vikings. 

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2 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

The same rookie QB that threw interceptions on 23% of his pass attempts in his only NFL playing time?  

I suggest you take a look at the tape. This is where stats are very deceiving. The 1st int wasn't Pickett's fault. Yes, the 2nd one is on him as he threw inaccurately as he was backing up. The 3rd one was a hail mary. 

 

In short, in the sample of a half Pickett showed a lot of promise. He was willing to " rip it" and " wing it" unlike Mitch. He also ran in 2 tds which was impressive. 

 

This is a very tough ask for Pickett. Making his first NFL start in Buffalo vs a very good defense. Buffalo's track record vs rookie Qbs is very good too. The Steelers oline is very good and Harris is not a game breaker. He's more of a smasher and a grinder. The Bills run D should play well. I think we will see a Steeler offense that will throw it a little bit more downfield. Take chances because truthfully they have nothing to lose. 

 

Conversely, I think the Bills try to establish the run and feed Singletary. Take some shots down field with Diggs. Shakir should have a few more opportunities as well. It's key the Bills offense comes out sharp and doesn't turn over the ball. In the past, Tomlin has had great game plans against Allen. However, with no Watt and a banged up secondary makes the Steelers more vulnerable and beatable. 

 

Steelers will show up, be ready, excited about Pickett. The Bills are at home with the superior team. 

 

Bills 31

Pitt 20

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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I suggest you take a look at the tape. This is where stats are very deceiving. The 1st int wasn't Pickett's fault. Yes, the 2nd one is on him as he threw inaccurately as he was backing up. The 3rd one was a hail mary. 

 

In short, in the sample of a half Pickett showed a lot of promise. He was willing to " rip it" and " wing it" unlike Mitch. He also ran in 2 tds which was impressive. 

 

This is a very tough ask for Pickett. Making His first NFL start in Buffalo vs a very good defense. Buffalo's track record vs rookie Qbs and very good too. The Steelers oline is very good and Harris is not a game breaker. He's more of a smasher and a grinder. I think we will see a Steeler offense that will throw it a little bit more downfield. Take chances because truthfully they have nothing to lose. 

 

Conversely, I thonknthe Bills try to establish the run and feed Singletary. Take some shots down field with Diggs. Shakir should have a few more opportunities as well. It's key the Bills offense cones out sharp and doesn't turn over the ball. In the past, Tomlin has had great game plans against Allen. However, with no Watt and a banged up secondary makes the Steelers more vulnerable. 

 

Steelers will show up, be ready, excited about Pickett. The Bills are at home with the superior team. 

 

Bills 31

Pitt 20

I assume that you meant to say that the Steelers OL is not very good. Because even that is an understatement.

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3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I assume that you meant to say that the Steelers OL is not very good. Because even that is an understatement.

Not saying you're wrong but it will look better with Pickett than it did with Trubisky. Trubisky played with no heart, would bail when he didn't need to and had no feel for stepping forward or laterally in the pocket to extend plays.

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