NFL WEEK #4 - Bills at Ravens - Post Game Thread

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Harbaugh getting killed for not kicking the FG in the halftime report....like the Bills didn't drive it down to the 1 with 3 downs to get it in at the end of the game.

Supposedly the call was to let singletary into the end zone so those fan takes are insane lol

[RunTheBall]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I've seen the replay plenty of times. It's not a penalty in my eyes. Nor was it for the announcer calling the game. So I think your 10 out of 10 theme is way off. 

Will you give it a rest already? We get it, you think it was a soft call. Fine. Do you have to hijack the entire thread about one soft call? Get on a conference call with FilthyBeast and Gene and you guys can all come up with why we will lose next weeks game to Prickett and the Steelers

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, BigAl2526 said:

How many drops did Buffalo receivers have?  It seems like the wet conditions bothered the Bills receivers a lot more than it did Baltimore receivers.  I think Josh's stats took a major hit from the drops.

Ravens dropped some big ones…but less drops overall 

[Playoffs?]

44 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I've seen the replay plenty of times. It's not a penalty in my eyes. Nor was it for the announcer calling the game. So I think your 10 out of 10 theme is way off. 

Dude. You need to stop talking about this. It’s absolutely ridiculous. You’re talking like this was absolutely the reason they won.
 

Again, for the 100th time, calls are subjective. Maybe this was soft, but get over it (can’t believe I’m saying that to a Bills fan(?)).  The Bills get screwed plenty. Calls go both ways. It’s done. The Bills mounted a great comeback and deserved that win. 
 

For someone who’s ‘elated’ that the Bills won, it’s blowing my mind that you’ve made 20+ posts about a ‘bad’ call that was made against the Ravens. 
 

Kind of pathetic. 

Edited October 2, 2022 by Playoffs?

[HappyDays]

 

[Brandon]

2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

How many drops did Buffalo receivers have?  It seems like the wet conditions bothered the Bills receivers a lot more than it did Baltimore receivers.  I think Josh's stats took a major hit from the drops.

 

Half a dozen, at least.

[Vertig0]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I've seen the replay plenty of times. It's not a penalty in my eyes. Nor was it for the announcer calling the game. So I think your 10 out of 10 theme is way off. 

 

And the Ravens first pressure of the game smacked Allen directly in the helmet. No call. McKenzie hit. No call. Especially when compared to the defenseless receiver call against us last week against Miami. 

 

Calls are made and missed on virtually every play. You're just focusing on this because it fits your narrative of finding something negative to complain about. 

 

Did the penalty matter? Sure. If it wasn't called would we have still won? Maybe. If the 1000 other random missed calls happen do the results of many other games change? Probably. 

 

Enjoy the win. If you're "elated" about the win like you said maybe you should stop focusing on the random bull#### and just enjoy the win. 

[Big C]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Harbaugh getting killed for not kicking the FG in the halftime report....like the Bills didn't drive it down to the 1 with 3 downs to get it in at the end of the game.

Yeah broadcasters just don’t get it and let the outcome of the play/game dictate whether or not it was the right call. So irritating. I should have tried to get into the business of NFL commentary!

 

Harbaugh explained everything right. Worst case was supposed to be the Bills backed up at their own 2. He just has to use the word “analytics” to get these guys all riled up lol.

 

It still looks to me like Lamar had a TD if he looked at Mike Davis but running backwards and throwing off your back foot into the end zone for a pick just can’t happen there. 

[Playoffs?]

3 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

How many drops did Buffalo receivers have?  It seems like the wet conditions bothered the Bills receivers a lot more than it did Baltimore receivers.  I think Josh's stats took a major hit from the drops.

That’s why stats are partly BS, especially if looked at as a small sample size. 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

How many drops did Buffalo receivers have?  It seems like the wet conditions bothered the Bills receivers a lot more than it did Baltimore receivers.  I think Josh's stats took a major hit from the drops.

At least 5 or 6 and probably more. As for Allen's stats - who cares - the only stat that mattered was the W and Allen was a key reason that the Bills gutted this win out.

 

 

[Warcodered]

 

I think we finally got one didn't we?

Edited October 2, 2022 by Warcodered

[CincyBillsFan]

20 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Agree 100%. All I'm saying is that roughing the passer call was a terrible call. So many have been disagreeing with that. 

 

I'm not here saying refs don't make mistakes. 

 

I happen to think that call was a HUGE call. Perhaps a game changer. One will never know for obvious reasons. 2 and 15 at the 41 vs 1st and 10 at the 26. That's HUGE in my book under the circumstances. 

And the refs missed an obvious roughing the passer call on the Bills 2nd drive that ended in a FG.

 

 

 

 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

 

I think we finally got one didn't we?

 

We got two holding calls that I remember when they didnt matter because we made a first down anyways.

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

I think we finally got one didn't we?

Technically, no.

 

They were called but declined because the outcome of the play was better than the penalty. 

[Lagoon Blues]

What was the raven flippin out about at the end tiwards his own team?  Peters maybe, could be wrong.  I was in a loud place w no game sound.

[wjag]

The AfterGlow

 

1. Just got back in from the game.  Bills fans swarmed that Baltimore Stadium, There were lots of empty seats.  Shame on you Baltimore

2. Shut them out in second half!!!!!

3. Poyer with the play of the game

4. What a rough start, but that drive to end the first was huge.

5. Seemed to me as the weather worsened, it was harder on Baltimore than Buffalo

6. Surprised the passing game struggled so much

7. Same old run game.  Just struggles to open up real holes

8. Down two more WRs.  The injuries on this team, sheesh

9. Heard Harbaughs explanation for why they eschewed the FG.  Not sure I agree with the decision.

10. How the f! did NYJ beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh?

11. Big time tie breaker on a likely division winner.

12. 3-1 sure looks better than 2-2

13. Bring on Pickens.

Edited October 2, 2022 by wjag

[The Wiz]

Just now, Lagoon Blues said:

What was the raven flippin out about at the end tiwards his own team?  Peters maybe, could be wrong.  I was in a loud place w no game sound.

They were trying to let the Bills score to get the ball back with time but apparently someone didn't get the message and tackled motor.

[North Buffalo]

Gritty win... as others have said... TD before half and I had a feeling... Balmore is a good team... D came thru in a big way... 

[appoo]

 

[Warcodered]

 

Poyer made sure to get one to make up for that game he missed.

[Scott7975]

3 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

What was the raven flippin out about at the end tiwards his own team?  Peters maybe, could be wrong.  I was in a loud place w no game sound.

 

The consensus is a disagreement.  Some guys wanted to let the Bills score so their offense would have time to try and match it.

[BillsFan130]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

I think we finally got one didn't we?

They got like 2-3 today.

 

2 at the end of the first half but they were declined

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, wjag said:

Just got back in from the game.  Bills fans swarmed that Baltimore Stadium, There were lots of empty seats.  Shame on you Baltimore

2. Shut them out in second half!!!!!

when you had lost 4 straight home games and blew double digit lead 

 

fair weather fans 

[Bob in STL]

58 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He barely hit Allen. The Raven defensive player moved his body sideways to soften the hit. He didn't slam him to the ground nor was it a late hit. It was a bad call and even the announcer on TV acknowledged it. Cone on guys let's except the gift. No need to try to justify the terrible refs call. 

I could have easily not hit him at all.   He took a step, slowed down, then took another step and hit him anyway.  Not only did he hit him, he wrapped him up and tackled him.  Earlier in the game Allen took a head hit and talked to the ref about it, he was in their head.   

 

How many times has this call gone against us?  

 

Get a clue, stop listening to "announcers", you cannot late hit a QB.  If you do you will get called 9 put of 10 times.  

Edited October 2, 2022 by Bob in STL

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

27 minutes ago, LondonBill said:

With such a reckless play as well. If Ricard or Dobbins had taken it up the gut, and failed, our final drive might have started on our own goal line. Instead they surrender the pick and we are on the move right away. 

Yeah, situational football there. Int was the worst thing that could happen. I suspect he didn’t expect Poyer to close like that. Dude is playing lights out. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

10 minutes ago, appoo said:

 

Also prince emili absolutely destroying Ricard was key to that play

[wjag]

10 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

They got like 2-3 today.

 

2 at the end of the first half but they were declined

 

 

I think those were defensive holding calls, not PIs.

[BillsFanNC]

You can try...

 

But you can't ever cheat on the Bills.

[Pete]

16 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

What was the raven flippin out about at the end tiwards his own team?  Peters maybe, could be wrong.  I was in a loud place w no game sound.

That was Peters (whom I always thought was a punk).  I was wondering what he was all pissed off about

[Cheektowaga Chad]

15 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

9. Heard Harbaughs explanation for why they eschewed the FG.  Not sure I agree with the decision.

 

The way he explained it basically threw Lamar Jackson and the coordinator under the bus

 

The pass play call was terrible 

 

The thought behind it was solid, the only things you couldn't do is take a huge loss on a sack or throw an int

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

 

I think those were defensive holding calls, not PIs.

 Yep you're right. The tweet was about  "PIs or defensive holdings".

 

Bills got a few PI calls this year though, can't remember if it was against the Rams or Titans 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

I believe that roughing call was legitimate. The Ravens player broke down and stopped when Allen threw it. He then took A free shot at Allen, regardless of how weak it was. Injuries could have happened for absolutely no reason. The defender KNEW Allen threw it and there was no momentum carrying him forward. He chose to grab Allen and take him to the ground for no reason.

 

The only bad call was the non call for interference.

 

The guy could have let up. I understand about incident contact and in fact I'm often ok with taking the 15 in the right spot because I want a QB off his mark.

 

Defender knew what he was doing. 

1 hour ago, Rc2catch said:

Baltimore milked that clock all game continually snapping inside 5 seconds on the play clock, didn’t work out wasting all that time 

I wonder if they regret that now

[Warcodered]

 

[Boatdrinks]

11 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

I could have easily not hit him at all.   He took a step, slowed down, then took another step and hit him anyway.  Not only did he hit him, he wrapped him up and tackled him.  Earlier in the game Allen took a head hit and talked to the ref about it, he was in their head.   

 

How many times has this call gone against us?  

 

Get clue, stop listening to "announcers", you cannot late hit a QB.  If you do you will get called 9 put of 10 times.  

Yep. It was also like the 3rd or 4th time in the game though none had been flagged. It also was totally unnecessary by the defensive player and I think that’s why they finally threw the hanky. The ball was long gone and he saw it. On the heels of Tua I’m not surprised. Bills have been burned on lots of those so I’ll take it. It was also first down, not a 3rd and 25 or something. 

[wjag]

So Harbaughs explanation was interesting.  He said taking the FG there would expose his defense to 4 down territory all the way down the field.  If they don't make it, they leave Buffalo at the 1 yard line.  That's the beauty of analytics as they don't properly weight turnovers and MOMENTUM.

Edited October 2, 2022 by wjag

[dma0034]

I thought the RtP was a little weak but they missed one on the sack earlier when the player went low and another player hit Allen's helmet. I think this was sloppy from the officals. Some very noticable holding from the Ravens OLine and Bills OLine were not called. 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, wjag said:

So Harbaughs explanation was interesting.  He said taking the FG there would expose his defense to 4 down territory all the way down the field.  If they don't make it, they leave Buffalo at the 1 yard line.  That's the beauty of analytics as they don't properly weight a turnovers and MOMENTUM.

I'd say he'd of rather turned it over on downs than have Lamar throw that pick.

[Bob in STL]

2 minutes ago, wjag said:

So Harbaughs explanation was interesting.  He said taking the FG there would expose his defense to 4 down territory all the way down the field.  If they don't make it, they leave Buffalo at the 1 yard line.  That's the beauty of analytics as they don't properly weight a turnovers and MOMENTUM.

Or the fact he essentially told his defense he didn't trust them to hold the 3 point lead.  

[vincec]

3 minutes ago, wjag said:

So Harbaughs explanation was interesting.  He said taking the FG there would expose his defense to 4 down territory all the way down the field.  If they don't make it, they leave Buffalo at the 1 yard line.  That's the beauty of analytics as they don't properly weight turnovers and MOMENTUM.

I understand what he’s saying, but they were outside the 2 yard line, so it wasn’t 4th and inches. Take the lead in the game with 4 minutes left.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, vincec said:

I understand what he’s saying, but they were outside the 2 yard line, so it wasn’t 4th and inches. Take the lead in the game with 4 minutes left.

I’m happy with his decision  😉