NFL Week #3 - Bills at the Dolphins - Post game thread

[WideNine]

15 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

One play by Phins that was significant. Clearly that doesn’t happen with 21 and 24 but thought 3 and 4 overall did good job. Feel free to get some pressure on qb. According to some the two S’s were going to be the issue. D gave up 21, this is in the O, injuries, and refs picking and choosing calls. 

 

I think they did pretty good job on the backend too with tall task.

 

Been concerned with how this team transitions from 2 standout safeties when age and contracts have to be factored.

 

The youth waiting in the wings seem to be on the right track... and could not help the image with those jersey numbers.

 

 

[Billz4ever]

1 hour ago, bills6969 said:

This may explain the bad throw on 4th and G

 

 

Hopefully just precautionary.  I was thinking he was just having hand cramping on the sideline while they were looking at him.  There was no indication Keenum was warming up to possibly have to go in.

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

Hopefully just precautionary.  I was thinking he was just having hand cramping on the sideline while they were looking at him.  There was no indication Keenum was warming up to possibly have to go in.

Josh and McD both said Josh was OK in their postgames.

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

3 minutes ago, noacls said:

Premium pick will be used on safety next year. 

Cool, we can ignore the O-line again for the 10th straight year. 

[Solomon Grundy]

22 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Didn't see. It was only a 3-man rush. 

Unbelievable!!

[st pete gogolak]

A pretty hidden significant play was there punter hitting a 70+ yard freed kick.  Crowder didn't anticipate that long a kick and was backing up when he caught it.  We barely made it past the 20.  Typically, offense usually gets the ball out to around the 40.  If that's the case, we end up kicking a winning FG.  Reminding me of Super Bowl XXV after the Bruce Smith safety.  Giant's punter hit a tremendous free kick and we started at the 20.

[noacls]

3 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Cool, we can ignore the O-line again for the 10th straight year. 

I agree with that also. Depth is a problem. Brown regressed. 

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

They may not be trash, but I don't think they are a great team either. 

 

212 yards of offense.  That's it.  Against a defense decimated by injuries.  I think the mistakes by the Bills were a much bigger factor in this game than anything MIami did.

Miami didn’t do much go win the game while we did just about everything we could to lose it. Reminds me of the occasional early season losses to Miami back in the glory days. People overreacted to those losses as well. Miami should be concerned that their all world QB and receivers couldn’t do more than a couple plays against a decimated defense. 

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said:

A pretty hidden significant play was there punter hitting a 70+ yard freed kick.  Crowder didn't anticipate that long a kick and was backing up when he caught it.  We barely made it past the 20.  Typically, offense usually gets the ball out to around the 40.  If that's the case, we end up kicking a winning FG.  Reminding me of Super Bowl XXV after the Bruce Smith safety.  Giant's punter hit a tremendous free kick and we started at the 20.

For reasons only the Maker knows, the Bills seem to be the easiest team to kick field goals and punts against in the NFL, like every year.  It’s insane.

[zow2]

Some Bills fans on Twitter complaining about the weather, lol. Bills were cooking in the Sun and Miami was chillin in shade all game.  That’s such a lame excuse by Bills fans.  Teams freeze when they come to Buffalo and we as a fan base shouldn’t be whining about weather conditions as an excuse.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said:

Anyone have video yet of the late Quisenberry hold?

 

 

 

 

As it happened in real time I knew he was about to get flagged...the Dolphins player beat him cleanly and Quisenberry basically reached around him and pulled him so he ended up falling down to one knee

Just now, zow2 said:

Some Bills fans on Twitter complaining about the weather, lol. Bills were cooking in the Sun and Miami was chillin in shade all game.  That’s such a lame excuse by Bills fans.  Teams freeze when they come to Buffalo and we as a fan base shouldn’t be whining about weather conditions as an excuse.

 

Not really an excuse just what happened. That was extreme weather even for down there.

[Steptide]

Ironically enough, we beat the Pats on this day in 2011

[boater]

Someone posted Dorsey's post game fit of rage on a politics board I frequent. They rarely post sports material, so this was highly unusual. They said it owned the internet Sunday. In his defense I brought up he was 38-2 in college and didn't like losing.

 

The Dorsey incident is getting lots of attention.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

We basically managed to lose this game on offense. I think we would have won it if we had a better running game, or if Mitch Morse had played. Late in the game Josh was pressing and maybe fatigued. He missed throws that he just did not miss early in the game. No wonder, with the heat and the not great OL play, he looked tired. The good thing is, very few games will be played in those conditions. And, we still had several chances to win... if we can do just a little better we'll be fine.

[Shortchaz]

41 minutes top, 19 points…..

31 first downs, 19 points….

11-18 on third down, 2-3 on fourth, 19 points….

1 punt, 19 points….

500 yards of offense, 19 points…. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Just now, boater said:

Someone posted Dorsey's post game fit of rage on a politics board I frequent. They rarely post sports material, so this was highly unusual. They said it owned the internet Sunday. In his defense I brought up he was 38-2 in college and didn't like losing.

 

The Dorsey incident is getting lots of attention.

 

I didn't mind that he showed some passion.

[goldenboy81]

Miami might be the 2nd best team in the AFC and Bills should have beaten them easily even with all the problems.

Just gotta stay healthy and play smarter

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Just now, Shortchaz said:

41 minutes top, 19 points…..

31 first downs, 19 points….

11-18 on third down, 2-3 on fourth, 19 points….

1 punt, 19 points….

500 yards of offense, 19 points…. 

 

17 from the offense.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The Dolphins have false hope and are legit terrible - just where we want them.

 

Unfortunately we have a coach who excels at program-building but puckers his %#*+% when the game gets tight, and the whole team suffers.  

I'd like to hear a legit reason on why people negate this comment. They're usually just fanboys who can't contribute a valid thought but feel their emotions hurt so they have to validate them with an emoticon.

 

 

Either way, you're right. McDermott sucks at game coaching. Always has. He is cute with everything else but can't coach on the field when it matters.

 

We are ***** if Dorsey leaves. 

[Rc2catch]

5 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Some Bills fans on Twitter complaining about the weather, lol. Bills were cooking in the Sun and Miami was chillin in shade all game.  That’s such a lame excuse by Bills fans.  Teams freeze when they come to Buffalo and we as a fan base shouldn’t be whining about weather conditions as an excuse.

You can’t play like Buffalo has and then shout excuses when you lose. 
90% of the social media crowd is gross anyways. Refs, weather and injuries are the worst excuses in a winnable game. I think anyone with half a brain knows Buffalo played short handed but still had plenty of chances to put that game away. It is what it is. 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Jerry Jabber said:

Hope Ingram gets suspended for this kick to Allen

 

Did the NFL suspend that account from Twitter for posting the video? I can't get it. Says account is gone.

[Rick 'r Mortis]

5 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Some Bills fans on Twitter complaining about the weather, lol. Bills were cooking in the Sun and Miami was chillin in shade all game.  That’s such a lame excuse by Bills fans.  Teams freeze when they come to Buffalo and we as a fan base shouldn’t be whining about weather conditions as an excuse.

Weather isn't on my radar as an excuse today. That being said, you can not compare the heat and humidity to the cold.

The weather today does things to the body not seen even in the bitter cold .

[zow2]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

As it happened in real time I knew he was about to get flagged...the Dolphins player beat him cleanly and Quisenberry basically reached around him and pulled him so he ended up falling down to one knee

 

Not really an excuse just what happened. That was extreme weather even for down there.

 

I just think it’s a bad look for our fanbase. People saying OSHA should be brought in to investigate, etc.. I get people are upset, but cmon. both teams played in it on the exact same field. After all the nonsense and injuries we had TWO chances to win the game at the end, and blew em both.

[WideNine]

Just now, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

I didn't mind that he showed some passion.

 

Yep.

 

Regarding Dorsey... I like the fire and the players alluded to his fiery temperament in the offseason. 

 

This team has plenty of calm leaders and it helps having someone that has that kind of passion to win and it has not hurt the offensive chemistry.

 

Plus, he kept it under wraps till the final tick. Its all good.

 

 

[stevewin]

Just now, zow2 said:

 

I just think it’s a bad look for our fanbase. People saying OSHA should be brought in to investigate, etc.. I get people are upset, but cmon. both teams played in it on the exact same field. After all the nonsense and injuries we had TWO chances to win the game at the end, and blew em both.

Also the people that are saying games shouldn't be scheduled in S Fla early in the season - so they're supposed to play away 8 weeks in a row then home the rest of the season?

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

I'd like to hear a legit reason on why people negate this comment. They're usually just fanboys who can't contribute a valid thought but feel their emotions hurt so they have to validate them with an emoticon.

 

 

Either way, you're right. McDermott sucks at game coaching. Always has. He is cute with everything else but can't coach on the field when it matters.

 

We are ***** if Dorsey leaves. 

Mostly because I trust a guy who has been in football for 30 years over some stupid Internet forum. 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

I'd like to hear a legit reason on why people negate this comment. They're usually just fanboys who can't contribute a valid thought but feel their emotions hurt so they have to validate them with an emoticon.

 

 

Either way, you're right. McDermott sucks at game coaching. Always has. He is cute with everything else but can't coach on the field when it matters.

 

We are ***** if Dorsey leaves. 

I am not sure - as @BADOLBILZ and others have pointed out, losing 8 close games in a row is not random.  It’s a mentality.  McD may lack that killer instinct or just have a poor overall feel for game flow - he takes his foot off the gas at the craziest moments.  Not just 13 seconds, this has happened repeatedly.  Case in point today, the Bills force a punt at a key moment early in the game and then rather than go for the jugular, they call timeout before the punt, then call two Moss runs for zero yards and get a play in late resulting in a fumble.  You KNOW the decision to run up the middle twice was all McD - he probably thought he’d “reward” his defense for getting the stop by buying them some rest with clock-eating nonsense.  We saw that crap with Frank Gore in 2017.  That was the time to press and instead we gifted the Dolphins a score.

 

McDermott is a fantastic program builder but that may just be his ceiling.  It’s the same in business, there are CEOs who specialize in turning around failing companies and they’re almost always parachuted out once the business has stabilized, and replaced with a visionary who can get the company to the next level.  If the Bills fall short in ‘22 and ‘23 (meaning anything less than a Lombardi) then it is time to cut bait.  Squandering Josh Allen’s prime years would be a war crime.

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, Billznut said:

If Allen is injured that will just cap off what was certainly one of the most frustrating regular season losses in a long time. 

 

I wish it was a long time.. I can think back to Bucs, Jax and Titans games only last year

21 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

A pretty hidden significant play was there punter hitting a 70+ yard freed kick.  Crowder didn't anticipate that long a kick and was backing up when he caught it.  We barely made it past the 20.  Typically, offense usually gets the ball out to around the 40.  If that's the case, we end up kicking a winning FG.  Reminding me of Super Bowl XXV after the Bruce Smith safety.  Giant's punter hit a tremendous free kick and we started at the 20.

 

They still had plenty of time to get 40 yards,,,

[nedboy7]

35 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

They may not be trash, but I don't think they are a great team either. 

 

212 yards of offense.  That's it.  Against a defense decimated by injuries.  I think the mistakes by the Bills were a much bigger factor in this game than anything MIami did.

 

They got to 3-0 somehow.  Keep underestimating them......

[UKBillFan]

The Sky pundits reviewed Dorsey's explosion at the end and showed the play - all agreed McKenzie should have been able to get out of bounds within the time limit.

[Since1981]

10 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Also the people that are saying games shouldn't be scheduled in S Fla early in the season - so they're supposed to play

There are less sunny 4:00pm starts. Just like in Buffalo, they often would hesitate on 8:00pm games in December. 

[Aussie Joe]

56 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

This loss feels like the wind game last year. External factors of heat and injuries, played a huge factor. It doesn’t determine who is the better team.

 

The better team doesnt always win the game.. but it seems a while since we had a win when we werent the better team...

 

Maybe the Colts playoff win would be the closest i can recall 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

 

They got to 3-0 somehow.  Keep underestimating them......

 

They played a struggling Patriots, took advantage of busted coverage from a depleted secondary versus the Ravens then overcame an injury ridden Bills because the latter gifted them the game.

[DCbillsfan]

17 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

You can’t play like Buffalo has and then shout excuses when you lose. 
90% of the social media crowd is gross anyways. Refs, weather and injuries are the worst excuses in a winnable game. I think anyone with half a brain knows Buffalo played short handed but still had plenty of chances to put that game away. It is what it is. 

IIRC Eric Wood said it was 112 degrees on the field today.  I'm not making it an excuse but that's a home field advantage that's unrivaled in the NFL.  

 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am not sure - as @BADOLBILZ and others have pointed out, losing 8 close games in a row is not random.  It’s a mentality.  McD may lack that killer instinct or just have a poor overall feel for game flow - he takes his foot off the gas at the craziest moments.  Not just 13 seconds, this has happened repeatedly.  Case in point today, the Bills force a punt at a key moment early in the game and then rather than go for the jugular, they call timeout before the punt, then call two Moss runs for zero yards and get a play in late resulting in a fumble.  You KNOW the decision to run up the middle twice was all McD - he probably thought he’d “reward” his defense for getting the stop by buying them some rest with clock-eating nonsense.  We saw that crap with Frank Gore in 2017.  That was the time to press and instead we gifted the Dolphins a score.

 

McDermott is a fantastic program builder but that may just be his ceiling.  It’s the same in business, there are CEOs who specialize in turning around failing companies and they’re almost always parachuted out once the business has stabilized, and replaced with a visionary who can get the company to the next level.  If the Bills fall short in ‘22 and ‘23 (meaning anything less than a Lombardi) then it is time to cut bait.  Squandering Josh Allen’s prime years would be a war crime.

The concern in these losses is how everyone has all the other excuses and they're valid 

 

The heat, the injuries, the concussion on Tua... 

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, Rick 'r Mortis said:

Weather isn't on my radar as an excuse today. That being said, you can not compare the heat and humidity to the cold.

The weather today does things to the body not seen even in the bitter cold .

 

But they still should have won

[DCbillsfan]

14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

I wish it was a long time.. I can think back to Bucs, Jax and Titans games only last year

 

They still had plenty of time to get 40 yards,,,

Don't forget that Colts game last year!

[3rdand12]

5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The Sky pundits reviewed Dorsey's explosion at the end and showed the play - all agreed McKenzie should have been able to get out of bounds within the time limit.

he was gassed. as they all were.

[boater]

21 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

41 minutes top, 19 points…..

31 first downs, 19 points….

11-18 on third down, 2-3 on fourth, 19 points….

1 punt, 19 points….

500 yards of offense, 19 points…. 

Clever. Are you trying to start a new meme right up there with 13 seconds, wide right and Music City miracle?

 

19 points. Quick, get your trademark application into the Patent Office.

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Don't forget that Colts game last year!

 

They copped a flogging in the Colts game last year... it was their worst performance of the season,,,

Edited September 25, 2022 by Aussie Joe