Do you have a problem with fans standing the entire game?

[SinceThe70s]

13 hours ago, HOUSE said:

We could save a ton of money if the new stadium had no seats. Just 60000 arm rests

 

With cup holders.

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Yes, the seats are uncomfortable anyway so why bother. 

Sorry, missed your earlier post about no seats

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Your tone is that of a narcissist. 

It's clear you're not the least but sympathetic to those who enjoy the live experience, but for a multitude of reasons may be unable to stand for long periods, or simply aren't tall enough to see over you with your G.D. chicken wing or Flintstones Water Buffalo head gear.  But, hey, as long as it suits you and you get noticed by the TV cameras.....screw everyone else, right?

The Buffalo Bills organization wants all their fans to be able to enjoy games in their home stadium. They've worked tirelessly to create a family atmosphere.

The ages of fans span from toddlers to people who are elderly and have supported their team since the 60's.

 

Let's put a face to it. Here's your measuring stick:

If 97-year-old Marv Levy was seated behind you and it was evident that up-and-down (mostly up) was a strain and took away from his enjoyment, would you still take the position that he should just move to "a different seat or stay home"?

97 year old Marv Levy would have better seats than that. 

 

You sound like an angry karen.

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by TBBills

[HOUSE]

Why not stand on the seats this would make everyone 2 feet higher

[SoMAn]

4 minutes ago, TBBills said:

97 year old Marv Levy would have better seats than that. 

 

You sound like an angry karen.

 

It's clear you believe the world revolves around you and you have little regard for anyone else.  Sorry that the Marv hypothetical went right over your head.

[SinceThe70s]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I actually think we're on the same page.  I get that we have to take pisses.  Can't help that!  A few years ago, I attended a Bills/Pats game in Buffalo.  Multiple Pats fans were in and out of their seats for the entire game and I missed seeing action because of it.  Those are the people I'm talking about.

 

My pet peeve is people leaving or returning to their seats during live play. Went to a Rangers (hockey) game last year and the ushers didn't let fans back to their seats until there was a stoppage in play. At one point coming back from a pee break/beer purchase  I had to wait a freaking long time for a whistle. I had no problem waiting - timed my next break/purchase better.

 

[badassgixxer05]

Its a thing now. These punk ass kids love to do things to piss people off and get a reaction out of them. Its all over tiktok now. Unless security is telling them to sit down, they are likely to stand and wait for someone to yell at them and get pure enjoyment out of it. Along with the ridiculous ticket prices, its just another reason to stay home these days. No ignorant pricks are in my living room. 😁

[Just in Atlanta]

Standing in the fourth when it’s close?  Standing on 4th down? A big play?

 

Sure. 
 

But the whole game? These people are the same types of people who recline the airplane seats all the way back for the entire ride just because they can. I’m 6.4. No thanks. 

[corta765]

100 level no problem as it frankly is easier to see the game standing. 300 level yes, for big plays or 3rd downs etc.. no issue but the entire game is overkill with how it is setup.

[Gugny]

51 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Its a thing now. These punk ass kids love to do things to piss people off and get a reaction out of them. Its all over tiktok now. Unless security is telling them to sit down, they are likely to stand and wait for someone to yell at them and get pure enjoyment out of it. Along with the ridiculous ticket prices, its just another reason to stay home these days. No ignorant pricks are in my living room. 😁

 

I was at a Joan Jett concert earlier this year.  As you can imagine, the average age of the crowd was around 50.  Late in the show, the band did an acoustic set.  Just about everyone in the crowd sat down ... except this one dude two rows in front of me.  He was right in my line of sight.  He was younger ...20s.  I finally went up to him and politely asked if he wouldn't mind sitting down, as everyone behind him was sitting.  He looked at me and said, "I'll think about it."  I just returned to my seat without saying anything else to him.  After a few minutes, he sat down.

[DocLawless]

15 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

On this note, I always pay attention to my surroundings - specifically those behind me.  I do this at concerts and sporting events.

 

There are times when everyone in front of me is standing and I have no choice but to stand in order to see the action.  If people are sitting behind me, I simply apologize and explain.

 

 

This ^ Same for me Gug.

[DrDawkinstein]

15 minutes ago, corta765 said:

100 level no problem as it frankly is easier to see the game standing. 300 level yes, for big plays or 3rd downs etc.. no issue but the entire game is overkill with how it is setup.

 

Agreed here.

 

I dont necessarily like standing the entire game. I'd prefer to be able to sit down here and there over the 3 hours without missing any action. But I also understand if my tickets are in the 100s, it is something I'll have to deal with, and have never complained about it.

 

It did piss me off the couple times I've sat in the 300s and had to stand all game just because the people in the front row wanted to. No need to stand from way up there.

 

If I really wanted to be able to sit the entire game, and it was something I was actively worried about, I'd buy club tickets to be sure.

[Stank_Nasty]

i personally prefer to stand for a live game or concert. So i generally get tickets to sections where i know this is accepted. Generally i tend to try and "read the room"... But for me personally, if i wanted to sit down and be low key, i would just stay at home.

 

 

[May Day 10]

I stand the entire game (we are in the back row).

 

I prefer standing.  I stand at all my kids' hockey and baseball practices.  Concerts, I stand.  I stand the entire tailgate.  I dont know.  Maybe nervous energy.  Maybe sitting 95% of the time at work?

 

But I get why standing is offputting to some others (if not a barrier to entry).  

 

I do feel like I am more 'into' the game standing than I would be if I were seated.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

My seasons are in section 132 row 35. Everyone in front of me stands the entire game. Personally, I don't care either way, I'd stand or sit during plays but have no intention of missing the play because the person in front is standing. Therefore, I stand for all plays, sit mostly during commercials and sometimes between plays. I haven't been to a concert in a while, but it always bothered me if people behind me are yelling "sit down in front" and those in front of me are standing. I normally could go either way there also, but hate that I have to choose between not seeing or forcing those behind me to have to make the same decision.

[corta765]

26 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Agreed here.

 

I dont necessarily like standing the entire game. I'd prefer to be able to sit down here and there over the 3 hours without missing any action. But I also understand if my tickets are in the 100s, it is something I'll have to deal with, and have never complained about it.

 

It did piss me off the couple times I've sat in the 300s and had to stand all game just because the people in the front row wanted to. No need to stand from way up there.

 

If I really wanted to be able to sit the entire game, and it was something I was actively worried about, I'd buy club tickets to be sure.

 

To me it literally is how the stadium is setup. I've sat pretty much every area and the 100s are designed where if you stand people can potentially sit and see. 200s and 300s especially are wayyyy steeper where I don't even really want to stand plus I don't want to block people. The 100s also I have noticed people wont stand at times also at quieter times so I haven't found it to be an issue.

[RiotAct]

Just now, corta765 said:

 

To me it literally is how the stadium is setup. I've sat pretty much every area and the 100s are designed where if you stand people can potentially sit and see. 200s and 300s especially are wayyyy steeper where I don't even really want to stand plus I don't want to block people. The 100s also I have noticed people wont stand at times also at quieter times so I haven't found it to be an issue.

wouldn’t it be the opposite?  The steeper the section, the more likely one could remain seated and still see the field if the person in front of them is standing.

[HOUSE]

No need for toilet seats either. They are uncomfortable 

[Royale with Cheese]

I have a 7 year old that won't be able to see.  So I will get first row tickets because of it.  They're much more expensive but the experience he gets is worth it.  

 

When I go without him, I will sit at timeouts, change of possession or other clock stoppage.  I'll stand when the players get to the line.

 

It's a game so I understand people want to stand so I won't complain.

[corta765]

8 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

wouldn’t it be the opposite?  The steeper the section, the more likely one could remain seated and still see the field if the person in front of them is standing.

There is more space inbetween seats 100 to 300 and idk about you but standing in the 300 in steeper area gives me some nerves haha. either way it def is a divisive thing and I get peoples support in both ways

[GaryPinC]

12 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

..That is, if you have no consideration for other fans...

Good sir,

 

I am very sorry to hear of your physical limitations impacting your ability to see the game.  Having to deal with the pain must be very frustrating and I can understand how much easier it would be for you if everyone sat.

 

Being a long time season ticket holder, you have to realize that long periods if not entire games of fans standing is just the reality of the stadium.  It happens at many pro and college stadiums.

 

Myself, I go with the flow and would like to point a few things out to you about my truths which differ from yours.

 

Myself and family are composed of men over 6 feet in height, with decent shoulder width.  In sold out games, surrounded by other good sized people, it is impossible to sit in our seats with shoulders square unless leaning forward at various angles which becomes uncomfortable and compromises the view.  Standing  usually  requires angling shoulders, but becomes more comfortable than sitting as it strains my back less.

 

Also, jumping up to only cheer for a big play involves having to wiggle and negotiate to sit down properly again without infringing on others.  And in a big or good game, there is lots to cheer for so it naturally becomes easier just to stay standing and sit at breaks.  I'm 52 and if standing an entire game (if needed) becomes too much, I either won't go or will pay for bigger/more comfortable seats.

 

As a STH, why not talk to the Bills about your problem and consider switching seats (clubs) or asking them make a section(s) sit-only?  Or do like others in a similar situation and watch from the comfort of home?

 

You are the one with the impediment yet you demand all others conform to your needs?  Stop calling other fans uncaring, selfish, rude, etc. 

 

It starts with you.

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by GaryPinC

[Tanoros]

16 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

OH, YES.

Everyone stands for big plays, but it is idiotic to stand otherwise, when you can see perfectly fine, from your seat. The team is not going to play better, and all that THESE PEOPLE accomplish, is that they obstruct the view, of the fans behind them.

There used to be such a thing, as 'Being Considerate Of Others'.

 

When I’m at home or at a game, I can barely sit. I’m just too excited and too pumped each time we make a big play (happens alot now). Usually when the game is well out of hand, that’s when I’m able to sit. 
 

When I was in Buffalo I tried to be as respectable as I could, I was lucky to be around other standers, so I followed the crowd. But man, when it’s a high pressure situation, it would take everything I have to sit for it. 

[716er]

Always get tix in the 1st row in the 300 level and don't worry about it.

 

An edible and a few brews and the weather doesn't matter 

[LabattBlue]

The number of suggestions of “sit only sections” is mind boggling.  It would be a nightmare to oversee, and complaints would be non-stop.  When would it be okay to stand?  Turnover? TD? 4th quarter?

 

This will never happen. 

[RiotAct]

2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

The number of suggestions of “sit only sections” is mind boggling.  It would be a nightmare to oversee, and complaints would be non-stop.  When would it be okay to stand?  Turnover? TD? 4th quarter?

Never!

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, 716er said:

Always get tix in the 1st row in the 300 level and don't worry about it.

 

An edible and a few brews and the weather doesn't matter 

just don't throw them on to the field :  https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/10/30/tuesday-hot-clicks-patriots-bills-fans-*****-throw-video 😂

[HOUSE]

I am a big believer in bad karma.

If you don't care about anyone but yourself you will get bit.

"Oh honey, somebody side swipped our car then drove off, I can't believe somebody would do that to us"

[Albany,n.y.]

7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

The number of suggestions of “sit only sections” is mind boggling.  It would be a nightmare to oversee, and complaints would be non-stop.  When would it be okay to stand?  Turnover? TD? 4th quarter?

 

This will never happen. 

I've been to SF Giants baseball games & you can't even return to your seat and obstruct the other fans views going back to your seat when a player is at bat.  They have no problem enforcing it.  

[ArdmoreRyno]

I don't like it. Stand when it's a big play, seems to make the play that's happening "bigger" for the guys on the field. I go to mostly college games, because I'm in Oklahoma and only students stand the whole game. You're 18-21 years old, go for it. When you're 45 years old, it not as much fun to stand for 3 hours. Nothing annoys me more than my entire section sitting and two or three jerks standing causing everything behind them to have to stand. 

[DrDawkinstein]

8 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've been to SF Giants baseball games & you can't even return to your seat and obstruct the other fans views going back to your seat when a player is at bat.  They have no problem enforcing it.  

 

I've seen this enforced at Bills games as well, they make you wait until after the play to walk down. Definitely Sabres games, you have to stay at the tunnel until a whistle.

 

No standing in a section is easy to enforce as well since it's a pretty clear-cut, binary rule. Most people know what they are signing up for when they buy tickets in that section. And you will absolutely get kicked out for it.

30 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

When I’m at home or at a game, I can barely sit. I’m just too excited and too pumped each time we make a big play (happens alot now). Usually when the game is well out of hand, that’s when I’m able to sit. 
 

When I was in Buffalo I tried to be as respectable as I could, I was lucky to be around other standers, so I followed the crowd. But man, when it’s a high pressure situation, it would take everything I have to sit for it. 

 

Are you my toddler?

[mjd1001]

9 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Back in the early '90's, during the 'glory years', I was able to sit in the old Section C-2, in the 40th row. Midfield.

People stood for BIG PLAYS, ONLY. Since it sounds like that you are 'too big' for your seats, perhaps YOU, should invest in Luxury seats.

It IS a problem, of people being inconsiderate.

(Sorry)

I agree.  Everyone standing vs everyone sitting has the same impact on visibility.  I had season tickets for over 15 years until we decided to not get them anymore, but I remember the same thing. You were able to sit during the games, and stand for big plays.  Standing the entire game, not for me.

[Punching Bag]

17 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Simple question, go for it !

 

Since I cannot stand entire game due to physical limitations yes.  

Having someone stand in front of you is basically same thing as obstructed seating which I dealt with Bills @ Cardinals game.

View was so bad seat was useless I would wander around looking for seats empty (lots of them) until person sitting in them returned.

[nucci]

13 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Back in the early '90's, during the 'glory years', I was able to sit in the old Section C-2, in the 40th row. Midfield.

People stood for BIG PLAYS, ONLY. Since it sounds like that you are 'too big' for your seats, perhaps YOU, should invest in Luxury seats.

It IS a problem, of people being inconsiderate.

(Sorry)

I was in E 8 Row 34....Same

[HOUSE]

At the Rockpile nobody would stand unless the Bills scored. The cigar smoke would choke anybody standing....cough cough  ...

Edited September 23, 2022 by HOUSE

[billybob71]

I stand the entire game and i fart... alot😁

[Nextmanup]

17 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

OH, YES.

Everyone stands for big plays, but it is idiotic to stand otherwise, when you can see perfectly fine, from your seat. The team is not going to play better, and all that THESE PEOPLE accomplish, is that they obstruct the view, of the fans behind them.

There used to be such a thing, as 'Being Considerate Of Others'.

 

I'm really surprised the stadium/Bills/ushers have allowed this situation to flourish as they have over a period of years.

 

At Nats MLB games in DC, I can tell you first hand that you will be tackled to the ground (I'm exaggerating) before an usher will let you leave the tunnel to return to your seat with a new beer, DURING PLAY, or in the middle of an at-bat.

 

There are rules, and people are considerate of "the fans" at large.

 

It is the same at NHL hockey games.   

 

 

[BringBackFlutie]

I love to be in the game the whole time and standing kinda helps with that. If I feel like sitting once in a while I'll do it but the decision is usually subconscious, and usually during breaks. 

[Logic]

I haven't read through the entirety of this thread, only a few comments here and there, but...

I'm with Hunter S Thompson on this one. He was a rabid 49ers fan. When people used to ask him to sit down and calm down, he'd shout back at them "THIS ISN'T THE ***** OPERA! IT'S A FOOTBALL GAME!".

Now I'm not as crazy as Hunter S Thompson (nor as medicated), but I agree with his basic point: you've come to an inherently loud, inherently rowdy sporting event. The gladiator games of the modern day. Furthermore, the team for which you are rooting feeds off of the frenzy of the crowd. So I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with people who want to stand during the entire game. If I was that concerned with having an unobstructed view and no inconveniences to my sight lines, I would have stayed home and watched the game on an HDTV.

I really try my best when attending games to only stand for 3rd downs, big plays, kickoffs, and red zone plays. The problem right now is that the Bills are so damned good that they're constantly in the red zone or forcing the opposition into 3rd downs! At the Monday night game, I did my best to only stand when it was "appropriate", but it was "appropriate" to stand for quite a lot of that game!

The two things that DO bother me at games:

1. People who insist that everyone sit the whole time. "Down in front! Yeah, you! SIT DOWN!". Like...no, man. It's an exciting game. I flew 3,000 miles and paid $200+ to be here. I'm not sitting all game. Especially when the Bills are on the two yard line or the opponent is in 3rd and long. Get real.
2. People who make a ton of noise when the Bills are on offense, particularly on 3rd or 4th down. There really should be a "when to make noise and when not to make noise" educational video for football fans.
 

[Nextmanup]

11 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

At the Rockpile nobody would stand unless the Bills scored. The cigar smoke would smoke anybody standing....cough cough ft b

You're talking about an era when there was still a little bit of decorum left in the world.

 

As a motorsports fan, I get a kick out old photographs of grand prix races in the '50 and even '60s, where the FANS were dressed up with ties and so forth, looking like they were going to church.  Just to sweat out under the sun at the side of a racetrack watching cars fly by.

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I was at a Joan Jett concert earlier this year.  As you can imagine, the average age of the crowd was around 50.  Late in the show, the band did an acoustic set.  Just about everyone in the crowd sat down ... except this one dude two rows in front of me.  He was right in my line of sight.  He was younger ...20s.  I finally went up to him and politely asked if he wouldn't mind sitting down, as everyone behind him was sitting.  He looked at me and said, "I'll think about it."  I just returned to my seat without saying anything else to him.  After a few minutes, he sat down.

We had seats for a concert at the Predators arena.  The group with seats on either side of us came in during the concert talking loudly and then asked my wife and I to take different, non adjoining seats so that they could sit together - 20 somethings.  I said no and then tried to ignore them.  just a symptom of general incivility and bad manners in our culture.  btw, seats in that arena are tiny.

Edited September 23, 2022 by redtail hawk