SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Is this [edit out legal, insert] right? Edited August 31, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Is there something illegal about telling a free agent that you might be interested in signing him down the road? Not that I can think of. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I don't see any reason it wouldn't be legal. They're not COMPELLING him to stick around, they're just asking him. He could easily say "nope, I'm gonna go take a job somewhere else". If he willingly chooses to stay unemployed based on the hope that he MIGHT get called back to duty, that's his choice. Now if the Titans were secretly slipping him money under the table, that would be a different story. But we have no reason to believe that's the case. I assume Kern just has a comfortable life in Tennessee and doesn't want to relocate his family. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Would be insane if he forgoes a a years pay in his prime earning years which he probably has a year or two left to stay on for zero money just incase….. Some really stupid people out there these days. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 This happens all the time. I used to live in a suburb of Cleveland where a lot of players and FO people lived. Kids went to the same daycares, schools, pool, etc. Players that bounced around the bottom of the roster and PS were often told this. Doesn’t mean they should wait for that call and turn down another offer, just that they should stay in shape because they might be wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 He's old and has a family. He doesn't need to leave his comfortable life. He can just retire if he doesn't go back to TN. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mark Long Beach said: He's old and has a family. He doesn't need to leave his comfortable life. He can just retire if he doesn't go back to TN. This. This would be his 15th season, he’s already made $28M and the Titans gave him a $550k signing bonus this off-season. Edited August 31, 2022 by BarleyNY 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Is this legal? The legality, not the player Isn’t this essentially what the Bills did with Matt Barkley yesterday. You are a vested veteran- stay around and maybe we can find a spot for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Is this legal? The legality, not the player That's a nice voice of confidence to give your rookie. 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Instead of releasing the rookie who might get claimed, they release the vet who will hang and wait for a job with the team. Smart move by the titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Rochesterfan said: Isn’t this essentially what the Bills did with Matt Barkley yesterday. You are a vested veteran- stay around and maybe we can find a spot for you. i don’t know. could be. were teams interested in signing Matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Girlfriend/Boyfriend: Hey baby, I met someone the other day and I think we should break up. But please don't date anyone else because if it doesn't work out, I want you back. 1 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: Isn’t this essentially what the Bills did with Matt Barkley yesterday. You are a vested veteran- stay around and maybe we can find a spot for you. Not really the same at all teams keep PS QBs/QB room QBs all the time, not sure how many teams even carry punters on the PS and nobody was telling Barkley to turn down a backup QB job let alone a starting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: i don’t know. could be. were teams interested in signing Matt? Who knows - could the Giants have been interested - that was reported/rumored? The fact is most cuts get told something similar and if they like the organization - they may or may not do it depending on the ask and offer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 That’s on him the Titans aren’t going anywhere the bills are a Super Bowl contender if he wants to stay and languish away like make whatever his face name is Kitrick with the commanders then let them move on get somebody else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 You call him Brett? Does he call you Slim? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think it's only illegal if he's under contract with another team. Say the Bills told obj that they were interested in him while he was under contract with LA, that's what the tampering rule covers. Telling a FA they are interested in him sticking around is the same as Beane calling me up and saying they are interested in me sticking around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mark Long Beach said: He's old and has a family. He doesn't need to leave his comfortable life. He can just retire if he doesn't go back to TN. That just made me SO jealous... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I knew Kern only wasn’t signing here because he was being held hostage by his former employer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 would hope theyd at least put him on PS and give him a little $$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Isn’t this essentially what the Bills did with Matt Barkley yesterday. You are a vested veteran- stay around and maybe we can find a spot for you. Not at all. Matt is a smart guy. He could read the tea leaves and know, when the Bills signed him after signing Keenum, he was coming back here to be the PS QB. It would be analogous to the Bills telling Barkley, "We won't offer you any job, including a spot on our practice squad. But please turn down any job offers you may receive in favor of sitting in your living room waiting for us to call" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 "We fired you so we could replace you with someone younger and cheaper, but please don't accept any other job offers in case we made the wrong decision" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Is this legal? The legality, not the player Yeah, why would it not be legal? It might be sketchy ethics - there was stuff in the media a few years back about how the Patriots would over-promise and string guys along to get them to stay available and some of the guys would turn down opportunities with bottom-feeder teams in the hopes the Championship NE Patriots would toss them a scrap. We know where Vrabel comes from. But it's not illegal, it's "On" the player if they choose to turn down an opportunity to play for the Lions or whoever in hopes of a shot with the Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 He was probably a ranch guy anyway. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Legal AF, he's a Free Agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, wppete said: Would be insane if he forgoes a a years pay in his prime earning years which he probably has a year or two left to stay on for zero money just incase….. Some really stupid people out there these days. I don't think "stupid" is the operative word here. Kern has had a 15 year NFL career with $28M career earnings. He's been living in Tennessee for 13 years. He's got kids, maybe they're playing sports and trying out for the school play. When you've got "enough" money, whatever that means to you, you have the luxury of deciding whether to take a job that uproots your family or isolates you from them for 5-6 months, or deciding to sit on your investments. Apparently Kern has decided that whatever investments and side businesses he has are "enough" Edited August 31, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Did he actually say the Bills offered to bring him in and he said no, or just that he's not signing here. Based on the other punter already being in town today I'd guess Kern maybe wasn't their first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Not illegal but it is illogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: Did he actually say the Bills offered to bring him in and he said no, or just that he's not signing here. Based on the other punter already being in town today I'd guess Kern maybe wasn't their first choice. It was reported that the Bills had reached out to him (immediately after he was cut) but he was "weighing all his options" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 The bills tell every player they cut that they like to stay in shape and be ready for a phone call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: It was reported that the Bills had reached out to him (immediately after he was cut) but he was "weighing all his options" So the polite version of "go f*** yourselves" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Can we just do a do-over of the 2022 draft from the 6th round and on? I’m not asking for much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I am not buying this story at all... That would show little conference in their new punter and no team would do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Why wouldn’t it be legal? He’s not forced to sign with anyone. They prefer living in Nashville over Buffalo, really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: The bills tell every player they cut that they like to stay in shape and be ready for a phone call what about the Jills, not so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: what about the Jills, not so much? We don’t talk about the ***** anymore lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Beast said: He was probably a ranch guy anyway. I dip my omelet in ranch. Ranch instead of ketchup for fries. Ranch instead of butter on a baked potato. Because ranch is great...ranch is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think his father said that he'd rather retire than move his family. So it's Tennessee or the couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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