YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Well, I’m right more often than I am wrong. Mmhmm of course you are. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: This one hurts from a cap perspective. I agree that he didn’t earn a spot, but that’s a lot of dead money 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: No Zach Ertz trade coming in 3-2-1.. Ertz on the 'outs' with the KM (Kinda Miniature)? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: Saying a guy doesn’t fit the culture based on assuming something is pretty sad. Did it ever occur to you thats just how he might be? What? He doesn’t fit the “culture” because he’s laid back? Wow…carry on… i hope I'm wrong. Laid back isn't the description I'd use. We'll see. I'm a Bills fan. i hope he's the next Freddie.. Just don't see it. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: We had one of the best offenses in the league and didn't lose anyone besides Cole, who was on his way out anyways. We invested with two rookies that seem to be solid pickups, and a savvy vet WR in Crowder in case McKenzie isn't up to snuff. I'm really not worried. We lost Sanders and Bessley both of whom were past their best.... the question is have we improved at all on offense? To my mind we have three legit threats - Diggs, Davis and Knox. The rest of our offensive weapons for Josh are JAGs until proven otherwise. I like McKenzie a lot have high hopes he truly breaks out. I liked the Shakir pick a lot too... but they are both still in the gotta prove it territory. If any of our three main guys go down do we have enough people to dictate matchups? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Howard is a horrendous move all over. If we’re going to bring in a third TE, or just go with Knox and Morris, then just about ok though the cap hit isn’t good. If we keep Sweeney ahead of him considering his weaknesses and cap hit difference, it’s bizarre. Chris Herndon got released by New Orleans, he's been a serviceable TE for some time. Would probably be an upgrade over Sweeney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The offense was the reason their season nearly got derailed last year… I know everyone here loves their playmakers but once any sort of injuries hit they lack depth just about everywhere. And the defense was the reason the season came to an end. Saying that the depth players aren't as good as their playmakers isn't really saying anything at all. That's the case around the league. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: This is brutal from the dead cap point of view, unless I am (or Sportrac is) missing something. No! Brutal was releasing Star. This is a significant hit, but far from brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I am expecting at least 2 players claimed by the Beaner... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Monty98 said: Chris Herndon got released by New Orleans, he's been a serviceable TE for some time. Would probably be an upgrade over Sweeney Herndon is awful 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: We lost Sanders and Bessley both of whom were past their best.... the question is have we improved at all on offense? To my mind we have three legit threats - Diggs, Davis and Knox. The rest of our offensive weapons for Josh are JAGs until proven otherwise. I like McKenzie a lot have high hopes he truly breaks out. I liked the Shakir pick a lot too... but they are both still in the gotta prove it territory. If any of our three main guys go down do we have enough people to dictate matchups? I expect we will have a significantly improved running game with the addition of Saffold and a frankly much better OL coach. We have Allen, he dictates everything a defense has to do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Herndon is awful So is Sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Herndon is awful Not as awful as Sweeney, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Herndon is awful this the guy that washed out with the Jets? Yeah agreed - no thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Herndon is awful and definitely not a process guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I think we keep only two Tight Ends: Knox and Morris. Could see that happening as they also have Gillian. Likely Sweeney will make it to PS so could bring him back if needed. The only thing questionalbe is the talk of them running more 2 TE sets, then would think you'd want 3 on 53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Disappointing. Not because I liked howard, but because I liked the idea of having a good second tight end on the roster. Wish they properly addressed the position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Not terribly surprised after seeing him continuously playing late in preseason games, but I don’t love any of the options currently behind Knox. Can’t believe how much they most NFL teams struggle to identify TE talent/depth. Guess we’ll see if Morris is that guy. I fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I don't get the hand-wringing over Howard's cap hit. That was a sunk cost, right? Not a reason to keep a guy around if the coaches felt like Morris was a better option. 6 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: No! Brutal was releasing Star. This is a significant hit, but far from brutal I disagree. Star left us with §5.2M dead cap but he played here what, 3 seasons? Howard didn't play a snap and leaves us with $3,2M dead cap. That is much worse imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Well, I’m right more often than I am wrong. I think you need to re-read the definitions of right and wrong...lol 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: this the guy that washed out with the Jets? Yeah agreed - no thanks I’ve heard of him! because he’s trash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I expect we will have a significantly improved running game with the addition of Saffold and a frankly much better OL coach. We have Allen, he dictates everything a defense has to do. That is certainly the glass half full view. I hope you are right. If our big 3 stay healthy I am relaxed about our offense. I do worry about our ability to withstand a significant injury (say even a 5 or 6 week one) for one of those 3. I appreciate that might be the glass half empty perspective but I have to be honest about how I see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, MWK said: So is Sweeney I agree, so why would I want one over the other? Less stinky trash is still stinky trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Beane says one thing about protecting Josh and does another by going all in on defense. Time will tell and I know I repeated myself all off-season, but their playing 2nd fiddle to the offense was a disappointing approach. Sorry but offense was not the problem when we lost to the chiefs... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I was hoping to be wrong when they signed him, but this does not surprise me whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Agree… With Howard being cut, their only significant offensive FA added to the off-season was an aging Roger Saffold. 😅 Nice of you to add the "aging" in there. Not like you have an agenda or anything. Crowder is a proven vet WR, but I guess he means nothing to you. OJ was a good swing and miss. Quessenberry will probably start at RT. Mancz will be a backup C. Oh, and they also brought back Bates, which IS a FA transaction. Keep crusading, man. Edited August 30, 2022 by eball 2 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I was getting the impression Howard’s heart wasn’t into playing football for a living. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am as disappointed as you. I liked the Howard pick up as a low risk, high reward offensive piece and I am really disappointed it has failed. In terms of passing targets for Josh it is really Sanders and Beasley out, Crowder (low ceiling vet), Shakir (5th round rookie) and Cook (2nd round rookie receiving back) in. Have they done enough? Only time will tell but it is a legit question to ask. I agree with your post, But I find It’s a strange question to ask. Where do we stack up right now against every other team in the league? We’re the favorites according to most. At least point, it’s about going to work and rolling the dice to see how the season plays out. Outside variables other than roster construction often play major roles in how many teams’ seasons are ended. The many rosters are good enough. Our roster last year, was good enough. One flip of the coin and this could’ve ended much differently. I think they’ve done enough…., I think many teams have done enough. Now it’s time to play the game. Time to outwork our opponents. Time to want it more than our opponents. Time for our coaches our opponents. Time to see which unpredictable variables come into play and have positive or negative effects on our season. The football gods will have their say. Luck plays a role in whether or not we can say a FO had “done enough” in the offseason. I thought they did enough last year. Had the coin come up tails, we might still have been celebrating. Lots of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Howard cut is rather brutal on several fronts. Beane taking L’s lately. Edited August 30, 2022 by Airseven 3 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, gordong said: Sorry but offense was not the problem when we lost to the chiefs... No that is fair. But it was the reason the Chief game was at Arrowhead and we were not the #1 seed. Offense vs Pitt. Offense vs Jags. Win those two against two teams we are clearly better than and we are home throughout January. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Well I certainly don’t throw out false predictions every week like someone here…. “Hammer the over against Carolina, bills backs ups are going to wipe the floor with them”😅 Did I say that? I honestly don't remember. If I did, it was (a) before the Panthers announced they would play their starters, and (b) because betting the overs in preseason is almost always a good call. I'll stand by my predictions over the past five years with no apologies or regrets whatsoever. You're the one who should be hiding his face around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I disagree. Star left us with §5.2M dead cap but he played here what, 3 seasons? Howard didn't play a snap and leaves us with $3,2M dead cap. That is much worse imo. Well they don't let you spread the $5.2 mil over 3 seasons, so is still a $5.2 hit this year. Thought Howard was a $2.6 mil hit. Either way it's still less and $3 mil is not a brutal cap hit. It might look bad as he never played, but not the first time i nthe NFL that has happened and often for larger cap hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 We could still see some tight ends shake loose from cuts. Arizona has 3, maxx Williams could be out if they only keep 2. I’m sure if there’s an upgrade available they’ll be after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: I don't get the hand-wringing over Howard's cap hit. That was a sunk cost, right? Not a reason to keep a guy around if the coaches felt like Morris was a better option. I don’t get fans worrying about cap hits. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: yes, no one else is judgmental here. one non popular comment and BOOM you get slammed. What you didn't get the memo that Cook is legit mate? lol geesh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: I don't get the hand-wringing over Howard's cap hit. That was a sunk cost, right? Not a reason to keep a guy around if the coaches felt like Morris was a better option. It's a bit frustrating that we spent a couple mil that could've been used anywhere else on a flyer for a guy who never even makes it out of the preseason, but it is what it is... Domino effect from the McKissic shenanigans is real.. McKissic dips, we give his money to Howard, draft Cook and then cut Howard. I'd rather have Cook than McKissic, by far.. but if McKissic signed, we aren't out dead cap and likely use our RD2 pick on a different position. Edited August 30, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: seems dumb as a rock. I didn't like his response to being drafted by the Bills. That said, he might be Adrian Peterson reincarnate. I hope so. Don't see him as the next Freddie Yeah, hes a lot better than Freddie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: Howard cut is rather brutal on several fronts So too, I'm finding, are your posts. It's all well and good to critique what the GM does -- we all do it -- but hyperbole is hyperbole. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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