Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just watched the post-game press conference. Seems pretty obvious to me McD did not have all the facts that came out in the lawsuit. That tells me two things. Araiza lied to the Bills and the organization did not get all the facts. I don't blame the organization. Its ludicrous to think they can investigate this on their own. Knowing what they know they should have cut him before the game. Even letting him fly home is wrong. McD's reaction when asked about female members of Bills mafia was painful to watch. I've been a vocal critic of McD frequently on this board, but he generally looked broken in that press conference. I will have a new found respect for him when they release Araiza tomorrow. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Because he’ll be cut due to the position he plays rather than the actions he has reportedly undertaken. If I could believe a rookie first round QB would be treated the same way I’d more than willingly accept it. So many people saying “he’s just a punter…” If he mislead the Bills he deserves to be cut. In fairness, my first post yesterday was questioning the front office decision making in cutting Haack and keeping Araiza when this was running in the background. And the front office should have fronted up before now - not released a mess of a statement then throw McDermott to the wolves. Agree with how the bills handled it, which wasn't great Personally I'd cut him because he is a rookie not because he is a punter. Id cut a rookie 1st round qb too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 All this for a rookie punter who never started a friggin game. That is all I will add to the thread. High front office and Pegulas will make the final decision, it's really that easy. Ohh no, we might need a new need a punter.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I fully expect this thread to be 250 pages when I wake up in the morning. Don't disappoint me You won't like me if I'm disappointed. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. I see the assumption/ belief that he's guilty thing and him being on the team as two different things these days. The trial by media is real, in that there is too much of a distraction for the staff for him to be on the team anymore. I'm not making a judgement on what happened but accusations have a weight in organisations that mean they can no longer be employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I’m gonna head out, cause Simon is about to crack some skulls tonight. This ain’t twitter folks and it’s a good idea to proofread before hitting submit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: McDermott sure looked like he was ready to cut him and leave him in Charlotte. Yeah, with a chainsaw and in little bitty pieces 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, The Red King said: All of it. I've been posting throughout. You? I lost count at page 67 of last night. Just sayin’. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? It means they have work to do 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Something about this world where a strong man of God like McDermott needs to listen to trash reporters try to bait him into ruining his career by asking low-ball questions. "What do you have to say to the women!" says the male reporter. did someone really ask that? What a garbage question. 11 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Something about this world where a strong man of God like McDermott needs to listen to trash reporters try to bait him into ruining his career by asking low-ball questions. "What do you have to say to the women!" says the male reporter. did someone really ask that? What a garbage question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: My opinion is that the Bills intend to cut this guy. But, they need to go through the league and the NFLPA to make sure they do it properly. McDermott sure looked like he was ready to cut him and leave him in Charlotte. That doesn’t explain the statement from yesterday, though I suppose McDermott letting slip new information has been discovered over the past 24 hours might explain why they could have changed course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: I’m gonna head out, cause Simon is about to crack some skulls tonight. This ain’t twitter folks and it’s a good idea to proofread before hitting submit. You just say whatever is on your mind and let me worry about Simon. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: Yeah, with a chainsaw and in little bitty pieces Seek help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Maybe I'm old-fashion, but I have an issue with anyone being punished based on accusations and assumptions alone. Now if any part of this ends up being true I will immediately help yeet him out of town. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I think that they wanted to release him but due to the mishap statement made by the bills yesterday they felt like they had to prove something by not playing him. I think they were just trying to make a statement today by doing that. He will be cut along with the other players when they go down to 53 and they will sign Bojorquez due to familiarity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budkin Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Get rid of this dude, I don't care how great he supposedly is. We don't need anything like this in our organization. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Agree with how the bills handled it, which wasn't great Personally I'd cut him because he is a rookie not because he is a punter. Id cut a rookie 1st round qb too How about a star QB where something comes out about an incident during his college days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: Seek help You don't think Coach looked pissed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, 716er said: You blamed the PR team for not cutting bait instead of the person in charge of cutting bait. Gotcha. I meant PR should have been knocking on doors telling the higher ups to cut bait. Because in the best case scenario, we eventually have a punter with a statutory conviction. I feel that their job is more than just deciding when kids day is and what kind of koozies to sell. And because honestly, I dont want to accept the scenario that the GM and Owner were told and did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: McD sounds like he wants him off the team Well if that's what he wants that's what should happen. If it gets to the point where there's dispute about that he can say I won't use him. I'll go for it on every 4th down and go for 2 every time if you put him on this roster. Edited August 27, 2022 by That's No Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 At this point I think the only thing that can save this kid is taking a polygraph test by an independent firm and passing with flying colors. Not sure if this sort of resolution has been discussed within the 50 pages since I was last active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, The Red King said: Maybe I'm old-fashion, but I have an issue with anyone being punished based on accusations and assumptions alone. Now if any part of this ends up being true I will immediately help yeet him out of town. You are totally right in my opinion. There is a point that alot of these things don't end up getting prosecuted but I hear you. He won't be on the team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Put him on an inactive list that keeps him away from the team off the field and out of a bill’s uniform for right now until this plays out Don't they have to be injured to be placed on the inactive list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: My opinion is that the Bills intend to cut this guy. But, they need to go through the league and the NFLPA to make sure they do it properly. McDermott sure looked like he was ready to cut him and leave him in Charlotte. Why would they even have to wait? We need to make roster cuts. You aren’t required to explain why you are cutting a guy. 30 guys are about to be cut. It’s that simple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Simon said: You don't think Coach looked pissed? I actually thought he just looked completely exhausted. Almost zombie like. When he said he hasn’t slept much I fully believed him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Just watched the post-game press conference. Seems pretty obvious to me McD did not have all the facts that came out in the lawsuit. That tells me two things. Araiza lied to the Bills and the organization did not get all the facts. I don't blame the organization. Its ludicrous to think they can investigate this on their own. Knowing what they know they should have cut him before the game. Even letting him fly home is wrong. McD's reaction when asked about female members of Bills mafia was painful to watch. I've been a vocal critic of McD frequently on this board, but he generally looked broken in that press conference. I will have a new found respect for him when they release Araiza tomorrow. There was a tweet that the locker between Ferg and Bass was empty with no name plate after the game. It’s possible they just got him out of there before the reporters came in. It’s also possible he’s but. Already angry McD seemed extra angry about the mid game statement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Put him on an inactive list that keeps him away from the team off the field and out of a bill’s uniform for right now until this plays out Would this count against the Bills' 53-man roster spot or a PS spot, or is there a list like a suspended list they could place him on without repercussion? Just asking, because I am not sure how this would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: How about a star QB where something comes out about an incident during his college days? You make a good point about the hypocrisy. I actually think they rated the punter very highly and if it was a lower player on the bubble he would of been gone earlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, UKBillFan said: How about a star QB where something comes out about an incident during his college days? A vet I let play out assuming he has solid relationships with current staff and players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itaos Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: How about a star QB where something comes out about an incident during his college days? Like Peyton Manning allegedly teabagging a trainer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, muppy said: I think he had a huge debacle to deal with today as well as game prep for a preseason game. So No I don't expect he to be at the top of his chat game in retrospect. I think he is above all a man of empathy for all involved in this mess. That is why Im proud of him tonight. He's a human being not just a football coach. Muppy at some point the Bills are going to have to start answering questions. "We have work to do" isn't going to cut it They have to start answering questions on timelines and what did they know and when did they know it ? If they don't the press is going to start circling like sharks around a bloody kill. It will only get worse from here 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 The nameplate being off of his locker is ominous for him as is mcd’s entire words and body language. Guilty or not, wouldn’t be surprised if McD doesn’t want him on the team because he has an actual ginormous game to get ready for and doesn’t have the time or energy to deal with this 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 There's a lot more people on this board than I've ever seen. Hello everyone! Go Bills! Lets not punt all season! Josh Allen looks good in shorts! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: I actually thought he just looked completely exhausted. Almost zombie like. When he said he hasn’t slept much I fully believed him. Yeah, there was definitely that element too. I just thought he was gritting his teeth in a mammoth effort to stay calm and controlled. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: Don't they have to be injured to be placed on the inactive list? Asked this earlier but could we put him on the practice squad until he is cleared/settles or charged/sentenced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Red King said: Maybe I'm old-fashion, but I have an issue with anyone being punished based on accusations and assumptions alone. Now if any part of this ends up being true I will immediately help yeet him out of town. Sorry that’s not how it works anymore. Not automatically believing every accusation means you’re a victim blamer. And if you aren’t immediately calling for the accused to be fired/arrested then that means you’re complicit. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) If the SDPD hasn’t even made a charge after 10 months… how the hell can anyone expect 2 retired rent-o-cops from WNY in Buffalo (Bills) add to any kind of clarity? They didn’t. bills could never properly vet this before or after. Cut him, move on. Sorry, but life is tough, punters are highly expendable. He can get a punt job next year, if cleared. Edited August 27, 2022 by Since1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Odd people calling out the media. They did their job. Every question was fair. It was the Bills that put out the BS statement. It's entirely fair to ask when and what they knew. And when he says they have work to do its fair to ask what work and how long will it take. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The nameplate being off of his locker is ominous for him as is mcd’s entire words and body language. Guilty or not, wouldn’t be surprised if McD doesn’t want him on the team because he has an actual ginormous game to get ready for and doesn’t have the time or energy to deal with this I thought that at first too, but then wasn't sure if maybe it wasn't standard practice to not install one for guys who aren't dressing. 🤷♂️ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: I think that they wanted to release him but due to the mishap statement made by the bills yesterday they felt like they had to prove something by not playing him. I think they were just trying to make a statement today by doing that. He will be cut along with the other players when they go down to 53 and they will sign Bojorquez due to familiarity Is bojo available? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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