Warcodered Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Did you all see the McD press conference in the game day thread ? One of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen The complete lack of mentioning Blackshear was notable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mango said: From a football perspective, let McD get back to work, and refocus the team on football. Let the front of house people manage the front of house. Why do people keep saying this? It’s always been McDermott’s job to be up there on the podium. It’s how he wanted things… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Whether fair or not. I see no way Araiza remains on this team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) He’s def gone. McDermott is beside himself and probably didn’t know. If beane knew and didn’t tell him wonder if that relationship is strained. I don’t know but Beane could be in big trouble here Edited August 27, 2022 by BillsSbSoon 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Woof! I have never seen McDermott look both so furious and so personally distressed Something about this world where a strong man of God like McDermott needs to listen to trash reporters try to bait him into ruining his career by asking low-ball questions. "What do you have to say to the women!" says the male reporter. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Simon said: How about a deal? If anybody is arrested and charged for raping that teenage girl, I toss you out of here. If a bloodied, bruised, gang-raped teenage girl turns out to be the B word you claim, you can stay. Deal? I commend you for your respect for women. I do not give a hoot if Araiza is the next Moorman, get him out of here. The classiest thing this franchise can do is dump him and throw him under the bus publicly. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Did you all see the McD press conference in the game day thread ? One of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen Cut this clown punter and be done with it. This team doesn’t need this distraction. McD looked more stressed than he did over last year’s chiefs loss. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, muppy said: I think Coach McDermott handled this as honestly, as real, and as transparent as he can be considering the circumstances. And the position this debacle has placed on his team And himself as a man of character. Im proud of him. well done Coach. You answered as succinctly as was necessary imo. He's not going to spout off any clickbait headlines that is for sure. Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? 1 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Might be time to move on and end this PR nightmare. He’s just a punter. Agreed… just keep “Punt, Pass, and Kick” Barkley on the 53 for now and figure it out from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I highly doubt we properly vetted pre-draft though it’s interesting that Warwow indicated that some teams were aware of the allegations at that point. I imagine the biggest cloud is what has happened after 30th July. Also, who cut Haack? If it was McDermott, what information dud he have on Araiza prior to making that decision and what did he find out in the last 24 hours? I have been on the “there’s no way the Bills didn’t know train”. There are teams that employ former LEO to help vet our prospects. But maybe after hearing McD? If I recall there were mock drafts with Araiza in the 2nd or 3rd. If other teams had him that high, they certainly would have been that thorough. But the Bills could have just been not super interested but was then available in the 6th. Thats probably not the case, and more me limbering up for mental gymnastics for my favorite sports team. I think the Bills were tied to Araiza pretty early on by reports. This one is on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, 716er said: Wtf? Cutting bait early is the GMs job not the PR team's. The GM had a change to cut bait early but cut Haack instead. The PR team does not make roster decisions smdh Yep. I totally think the PR staff cuts players. keep sydh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Did you all see the McD press conference in the game day thread ? One of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen How so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, benderbender said: Yep. I totally think the PR staff cuts players. keep sydh You blamed the PR team for not cutting bait instead of the person in charge of cutting bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? What can he say? Legally, he has to choose his words very carefully. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 He’ll be cut by Monday…guarantee it. sucks b/c he’s one helluva punter, but we can’t have that distraction. He’ll probably settle the lawsuit in a few months and Cleveland will sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, In Summary said: Media loves this drama. Their interest in football continues to be secondary. Gives them a purpose again. Wawrow is having the best week of his life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: You are on quite the power trip here arnt you? You do not wanna be messing with that particular mod trust me 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? What would you have liked him to say? You’ve had about 30 minutes to review the questions and don’t have the pressure of the podium. Let’s hear your desired response to questions about an ongoing legal case… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bobobonators said: Cut this clown punter and be done with it. This team doesn’t need this distraction. McD looked more stressed than he did over last year’s chiefs loss. One of the many reasons that I really like having McDermott as our coach. He prioritizes the human element. It’s also why his team respects him so much. His code of ethics, as far as I can see, very much aligns with mine. Edited August 27, 2022 by MiltonWaddams 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 That was a hard watch with the coach. But it’s also possible he decided to take that on instead of Beane or anyone else. Might of been his decision to speak first. Those are live flying bullets and no time to prepare an answer and he’s quite good at handling those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? Exactly what it sounds like.... what do you want him to do; go all Rex Ryan and start spouting nonsense? He's obviously distressed over the situation, and he is not in any position to take sides due to the potential fallout regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Matt araiza is a rookie punter, he is young and AT BEST put himself in a terrible position and made some dumb decisions that could have derailed his professional career With that said why are fans/people so upset he might get cut because of this? being cut might be the best out come for the guy Because he’ll be cut due to the position he plays rather than the actions he has reportedly undertaken. If I could believe a rookie first round QB would be treated the same way I’d more than willingly accept it. So many people saying “he’s just a punter…” If he mislead the Bills he deserves to be cut. In fairness, my first post yesterday was questioning the front office decision making in cutting Haack and keeping Araiza when this was running in the background. And the front office should have fronted up before now - not released a mess of a statement then throw McDermott to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Simon said: How about a deal? If anybody is arrested and charged for raping that teenage girl, I toss you out of here. If a bloodied, bruised, gang-raped teenage girl turns out to be the B word you claim, you can stay. Deal? I’m not sticking up for the guy my point is is this happened what a year ago and it didn’t seem to be a big deal… it took the school 7 months before they even launched an investigation and now he’s in the nfl and prolly has a little money and now it’s a big deal… A civil lawsuit… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Put him on an inactive list that keeps him away from the team off the field and out of a bill’s uniform for right now until this plays out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, benderbender said: The PR staff needs to be fired. It is what you pay them for. Get in front. Cut bait early. It's been said by so many, but it is a punter. A rookie at that. Even if he nets 60 yards for his entire career, it is not worth the cancer. Even if they slept on it last night and cut him this morning, we would at least look like we took it seriously. How dare they send McD out there alone to explain hesitation and incompetence above his pay grade. I actually feel that part of it might be that they, or someone, saw him as an important player actually - yes a punter but a good one at that. I wonder whether that coloured something somewhere, perhaps together with them not all knowing the full picture or that there were serious grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? What in Gods name do you expect the man to say? Get a clue man. You obviously have no idea what it would be like to be in that position. Nor, will you ever hopefully. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. The fact that this situation even is ongoing is damaging to the team. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. At this point it’s not about guilt or innocence. Its about what’s best for the team. Let the courts decide guilt or innocence. Let the Bills play football. Cut the punter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: He’s def gone. McDermott is beside himself and probably didn’t know. If beane knew and didn’t tell him wonder if that relationship is strained. I don’t know but Beane could be in big trouble here This is what I thought. Mcd seemed pissed about something deeper than cutting a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? I think he had a huge debacle to deal with today as well as game prep for a preseason game. So No I don't expect he to be at the top of his chat game in retrospect. I think he is above all a man of empathy for all involved in this mess. That is why Im proud of him tonight. He's a human being not just a football coach. Edited August 27, 2022 by muppy 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Bimmer323i said: I’m not sticking up for the guy my point is is this happened what a year ago and it didn’t seem to be a big deal… it took the school 7 months before they even launched an investigation and now he’s in the nfl and prolly has a little money and now it’s a big deal… A civil lawsuit… Maybe you ought to do some homework before you come in here talking ***** on teenage gang rape victims. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. Agreed. In both directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: You are on quite the power trip here arnt you? You need Hooked on Phonics... ARNT ARNT ARNT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. How many pages of this thread have you read exactly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: He’s def gone. McDermott is beside himself and probably didn’t know. If beane knew and didn’t tell him wonder if that relationship is strained. I don’t know but Beane could be in big trouble here Really? Beane? Come on…parties involved likely lied to the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) My opinion is that the Bills intend to cut this guy. But, they need to go through the league and the NFLPA to make sure they do it properly. McDermott sure looked like he was ready to cut him and leave him in Charlotte. Edited August 27, 2022 by MiltonWaddams 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: How many pages of this thread have you read exactly? All of it. I've been posting throughout. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. Speaking for myself I just don’t think it’s worth the distraction. He may eventually clear his name but I’d rather have our HC and team focused on LA instead of having to answer for our punter. Edited August 27, 2022 by Bangarang 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Really? Beane? Come on…parties involved likely lied to the Bills. Probably but we don’t know that yet either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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