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Agree but I still believe Stevenson has a role on this team. I'm aware his injury hurts his chances and the WR depth is very good but I feel he's too talented to cut or place on the PS (where he'll get poached). Also believe the staff has high expectations of him. 

I'd love to see Stevenson over Kumerow.  Otherwise I agree with this list

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6 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I would anticipate some sort of arrangement with Formosa Jones to cut & immediately re-sign after injury list moves re-open a spot by stashing White/Boettger. Don't know that you'd have to worry too much about a 34-year old teamer getting poached. There was a similar move with Andre Roberts a couple years back.

 

They also did it with Reid Ferguson last year.

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5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Your history is correct but Cook is a different type of RB. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. 

This is yet another reason to not have Gilliam on the roster. I would much rather dress Motor, Moss, Cook, and Jones.  Moss or one of the backup TEs can line up at FB. Waste of a roster spot. 

 

I mean, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But considering they just gave him an extension, he's not going anywhere.

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8 hours ago, marck said:

After yesterdays great performance I can the the complexity of putting together the 53 man initial roster, in this thread I am assuming Tre White is not put on pup and Ike Bottinger is

 

Here we go

 

QB - 2

 

Allen

Keenam

 

RB - 5


Singletary

Cook 
Moss

Blackshear

Jones - ST

 

WR - 7

 

Diggs

Davis

Mckenzie

Shakir

Crowder

Hodgkins

Kummerow - ST

 

TE - 3

 

Knox

Howard

Gilliam - FB/TE/ST

 

OL - 9

 

Dawkins

Bates

Morse

Saffold

Brown

Quesenbery

Doyle

Mancz

Ford

 

Specialists - 3

 

Ferguson

Bass

Ariza

 

DL - 9

 

Miller 

Oliver

Jones

Rousseau

Basham

Epinesa

Lawson

Settle

Phillips

 

LB - 5

 

Edmunds

Milano

Dodson

Bernard

Matekevich - ST

 

CB - 6

 

White

Jackson

Johnson

Elam

Benford

Neal - ST

 

S - 4

 

Hype

Poyer

Johnson

Hamlim

 

Your thoughts

 

 

 

Great line up!!

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7 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Better then the way to early mock drafts :doh:

Mock drafts should be illegal. Post one, it’s 30 days in the cooler and you can’t return til you get a job!

6 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:


Irony being your avatar is a lamp. 

LAMP = Look At My Post thread

53 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Who’s Hodgkins?

I think it’s a lymphoma.. 🤔🤷‍♂️

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4 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Agree but I still believe Stevenson has a role on this team. I'm aware his injury hurts his chances and the WR depth is very good but I feel he's too talented to cut or place on the PS (where he'll get poached). Also believe the staff has high expectations of him. 

I'd love to see Stevenson over Kumerow.  Otherwise I agree with this list

 

Stevenson is going to IR. No way he's taking a spot injured over Hodgins and Kumerow.

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11 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I would anticipate some sort of arrangement with Formosa Jones to cut & immediately re-sign after injury list moves re-open a spot by stashing White/Boettger. Don't know that you'd have to worry too much about a 34-year old teamer getting poached. There was a similar move with Andre Roberts a couple years back.


 

They do not have to make a move with White or Boettger.  They are on PUP (active) right now and count on the 90/85/80 man roster.  Because they were designated PUP before camp they can be moved to PUP (inactive) and do not count as part of the 53, but then have to sit out the first 4 games (this changed from 6 in previous years).  They can then get activated from PUP with a roster move to get on the 53.

 

The 2 injured people that may need this move right now are Stevenson and Doyle if either are hurt enough to be unavailable and need the 4 week IR with return designation.

 

They can also activate White (or Boettger) from PUP at any time now and then would need them on the 53 when cuts come.

 

There is no longer an advantage I do not think to activate from PUP and move to IR return prior to the season.

 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

No way Blackshear hits our practice squad.  He's proven to be a very versatile and productive player as a runner, pass catcher and returner.  Not every team is deep like our Bills.  


 

We will have to see - that was a common thought on Williams and Wade in previous years (and honestly going back years at RB and WR)  and the truth is most teams have 5 RBs right now good enough to play in the NFL and several were drafted higher and have more NFL game experience than Blackshear and will be cut in the coming days.

 

I love what Blackshear gives, but he just went through the entire draft and no one wanted him and then went to UDFA where he was not an immediate sign priority guy, but a later pick-up by the Bills.
 

 

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Don’t tell me what to do,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The Bills have to be down to 80 by tomorrow. By my count they are at 84, anyone care to wager who the four guys on the outs will be?

 

1) Ja’Marcus Ingram, CB

2) Neil Pau’u, WR

3) Alec Anderson, OL

4) C.J. Brewer, DT

 

I doubt Anderson goes. He has been decent and I am sure they wanna PS him. I'll say Prince Emili, DT is the other cut. They have a clear pecking order there of the top 4 guys and then Ankou and Bryant who I imagine they want to keep on the PS.

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10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The Bills have to be down to 80 by tomorrow. By my count they are at 84, anyone care to wager who the four guys on the outs will be?

 

1) Ja’Marcus Ingram, CB

2) Neil Pau’u, WR

3) Alec Anderson, OL

4) C.J. Brewer, DT

 

This is tough to do.  There are 10+ easy cuts at this point and determining which are the first to go out of that batch is hard to predict.  My bet is that the Bills are at least partially motivated (on this cut) by whether or not someone is a "glue guy"/popular.  All things being equal, someone who is "good in the room" likely gets held on to until the last cut.  The problem is we don't get to see any of that so it is hard to judge.

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17 hours ago, marck said:

After yesterdays great performance I can the the complexity of putting together the 53 man initial roster, in this thread I am assuming Tre White is not put on pup and Ike Bottinger is

 

Here we go

 

QB - 2

 

Allen

Keenam

 

RB - 5


Singletary

Cook 
Moss

Blackshear

Jones - ST

 

WR - 7

 

Diggs

Davis

Mckenzie

Shakir

Crowder

Hodgkins

Kummerow - ST

 

TE - 3

 

Knox

Howard

Gilliam - FB/TE/ST

 

OL - 9

 

Dawkins

Bates

Morse

Saffold

Brown

Quesenbery

Doyle

Mancz

Ford

 

Specialists - 3

 

Ferguson

Bass

Ariza

 

DL - 9

 

Miller 

Oliver

Jones

Rousseau

Basham

Epinesa

Lawson

Settle

Phillips

 

LB - 5

 

Edmunds

Milano

Dodson

Bernard

Matekevich - ST

 

CB - 6

 

White

Jackson

Johnson

Elam

Benford

Neal - ST

 

S - 4

 

Hype

Poyer

Johnson

Hamlim

 

Your thoughts

 

 

 

 

Drop Blackshear (to me this is too many running backs on a 53 man roster, especially for a team that passes on like 60% of plays) and Options would be 

Sweeney/Morris - add another to the PS

Spector, Giles-Harris to then possibly get waived mid-season for Smith (assuming they like smith here)

Another Olineman - Tenuta or Van Roten - Likely gets waived mid-season for Boettger

 

So I see it likely being a TE instead of Blackshear. It gets interesting when Smith returns from suspension, and if Boettger returns.  I think Smith will only show up based on an injury, and Boettger will be a while on PUP with a torn achilles week 16 last year so I wouldn't base too many roster decisions around him as there's a pretty decent chance he can't contribute much this year.  

 

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25 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Josh Allen

Stefon Diggs

Von Miller

Raheem Blackshear

No way they cut Blackshear!

Jamarcus Ingram and that Tenuta kid were the two who stuck out in game 2. Tenuta was a draft pick though so maybe he stays. 

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These cuts will probably be players that the Bills will not want on the practice squad.  There may also be a veteran that knows that he isn't going to make the team and wants to get a chance to catch on elsewhere.  The Bills may also factor in what positions they need to fill for the last preseason game (depends on who they are holding out of the game).  There are more than four obvious cuts on this roster.

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18 hours ago, The Wiz said:

My guess would be Cam Lewis as he can play both safety and cb.

I'm hoping Spector and when Smith comes off his suspension, hopefully Spector can take Matekevich's place.

I think he's probably the better choice to backup a LB spot providing more value.

Hopefully they can end up protecting Lewis and McCloud on the P.S.

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18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

But I definitely disagree with the idea that Blackshear would "never" make it to the Practice Squad. UDFA RB's who perform well late in Pre-Season games are a dime a dozen. I don't see him being scooped up by another team for their 53 man roster.

 

I don't consider myself a judge of how our UDFA RB looks relative to other UDFA RB's.  Questions to ask include, how is he doing on ST? and how is he coming along with pass protection?

 

We at TBD historically pick several players who do well in preseason and obsess about how they'll be snapped up immediately if they're cut.  And usually they aren't.

 

18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

That roster spot will go to CB Cam Lewis (especially if White is going to miss time), TE Tommy Sweeney (if we're going to run 2 TE sets, we need to carry at least 3 TE's), or DT Brandin Bryant (we carried 11 DL to the 53 last season. Maybe we carry 1 less, but 2 is pushing it IMO).

 

We carried 11 DL last season because we drafted 2 rookies and didn't want to expose them.  It came at the expense of just Knox and Gilliam at TE IIRC

 

In the past, McDermott has carried 9-10 DL depending upon the OL situation.

 

 

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Soooo.  OL now that Ford has been traded.  Who makes it?

 

From the OP:
 

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OL - 9

 

Dawkins (starter)

Bates (starter) - has played center

Morse (starter)

Saffold (starter)

Brown (starter when healthy?)

Quessenberry (current starter)

Doyle (in a boot)

Mancz (some form of injury?) - backup center

Ford

 

Other OL:

Hart

Capra

Tenuta (2022 6th round pick)

Van Roten

Andersen

Owen

 

Boettger (PUP, will probably go to IR)

 

So.....who makes the 53 man roster?

Are we happy with the idea of Brown (not quite healthy) or Doyle as our backup swing tackles?

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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

2 of Blackshear, Hodgins, and Kumerow get cut I think. Spector or Giles-Harris makes the roster and I think you need another DB to start the season.

 

I think Hodgins will need to show more in Special Teams next week for Kumerow to be cut, especially after ST's performed subpar with his first looks there in the game, and now that Austin has been released.

 

We kept 6 True WR's and Kumerow for the Core ST's last season. With Austin gone and Stevenson hurt, that leaves Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder, Shakir, and Hodgins as the obvious 6 True WR's. Hodgins would need to show he can perform ST's up to Kumerow's level to justify keeping just him instead of both.

 

Blackshear will be released and brought back for the Practice Squad. He's the yearly overachieving UDFA that people work themselves into a frenzy about and think there's no way we can get them back for the PS when it's really not an issue.

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On 8/21/2022 at 3:14 PM, marck said:

After yesterdays great performance I can the the complexity of putting together the 53 man initial roster, in this thread I am assuming Tre White is not put on pup and Ike Bottinger is

 

Here we go

 

QB - 2

 

Allen

Keenam

 

RB - 5


Singletary

Cook 
Moss

Blackshear

Jones - ST

 

WR - 7

 

Diggs

Davis

Mckenzie

Shakir

Crowder

Hodgkins

Kummerow - ST

 

TE - 3

 

Knox

Howard

Gilliam - FB/TE/ST

 

OL - 9

 

Dawkins

Bates

Morse

Saffold

Brown

Quesenbery

Doyle

Mancz

Ford

 

Specialists - 3

 

Ferguson

Bass

Ariza

 

DL - 9

 

Miller 

Oliver

Jones

Rousseau

Basham

Epinesa

Lawson

Settle

Phillips

 

LB - 5

 

Edmunds

Milano

Dodson

Bernard

Matekevich - ST

 

CB - 6

 

White

Jackson

Johnson

Elam

Benford

Neal - ST

 

S - 4

 

Hype

Poyer

Johnson

Hamlim

 

Your thoughts

 

 

 

Got a feeling Cam Lewis sticks- plays both DB positions. Doubtful 5 RBs kept. Too risky to place Blackhear on the PS. I know I know Taiwan plays teams, but we have plenty of teamers. In my opinion, Jones is not a lock.

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51 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

Soooo.  OL now that Ford has been traded.  Who makes it?

 

From the OP:
 

 

Other OL:

Hart

Capra

Tenuta (2022 6th round pick)

Van Roten

Andersen

Owen

 

Boettger (PUP, will probably go to IR)

 

So.....who makes the 53 man roster?

Are we happy with the idea of Brown (not quite healthy) or Doyle as our backup swing tackles?

Brown was back with the ones at practice today where he belongs with his massive upside.

 

 Q looks like a solid swing tackle .

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52 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Got a feeling Cam Lewis sticks- plays both DB positions. Doubtful 5 RBs kept. Too risky to place Blackhear on the PS. I know I know Taiwan plays teams, but we have plenty of teamers. In my opinion, Jones is not a lock.

 

Yes, he is. He was sat both games to be protected. That wouldn't happen if he were remotely on the bubble. McDermott has never sat players who didn't make the roster. They'd showcase him for other teams.

 

Same thing happened last season and people tried to make arguments as to why it didn't matter and he was here.

 

Also, I'll say this until I'm blue on the face, every year people overhype an overachieving UDFA who performs well late in Pre-Season games against other UDFA/PS/Soon to be released players. And every year they say "someone's going to scoop him up". And it doesn't happen. Singletary, Cook, Moss, and Johnson all saw the field before Blackshear in both games and we're only keeping 3 of those 4.

 

Practically every fanbase in the league has a Blackshear they're overhyping based on Preseason garbage time. He'll be back on the Practice Squad without issue. No one's giving him a spot on their 53 based on 3rd and 4th quarter performances in Preseason for another team at the RB position.

 

And if someone did, this regime would be thrilled for him having a better opportunity than he would here. They'd probably bring Duke back on the Practice Squad and not miss a second of sleep over it.

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9 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Don't cut Pau'u just yet.  The name alone, Pow-ooohhh.

Sorry, but even his name suggests he's done...

Pau

20 minutes ago, julian said:

Brown was back with the ones at practice today where he belongs with his massive upside.

 

 Q looks like a solid swing tackle .

And he plays guard.

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54 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yes, he is. He was sat both games to be protected. That wouldn't happen if he were remotely on the bubble. McDermott has never sat players who didn't make the roster. They'd showcase him for other teams.

 

Same thing happened last season and people tried to make arguments as to why it didn't matter and he was here.

 

Also, I'll say this until I'm blue on the face, every year people overhype an overachieving UDFA who performs well late in Pre-Season games against other UDFA/PS/Soon to be released players. And every year they say "someone's going to scoop him up". And it doesn't happen. Singletary, Cook, Moss, and Johnson all saw the field before Blackshear in both games and we're only keeping 3 of those 4.

 

Practically every fanbase in the league has a Blackshear they're overhyping based on Preseason garbage time. He'll be back on the Practice Squad without issue. No one's giving him a spot on their 53 based on 3rd and 4th quarter performances in Preseason for another team at the RB position.

 

And if someone did, this regime would be thrilled for him having a better opportunity than he would here. They'd probably bring Duke back on the Practice Squad and not miss a second of sleep over it.

Much truth to your rationale. I feel ya…we shall see. At the end of the day, I just want to win the big one. Lets put the best 53 on the roster.

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1 hour ago, julian said:

Brown was back with the ones at practice today where he belongs with his massive upside.

 

 Q looks like a solid swing tackle .

 

So Dawkins-Saffold-Morse-Bates-Brown.  Quessenberry as swing tackle.  Mancz as backup C/G

 

Two more, 3 at most.  Who?  I would guess Tommy Doyle unless his injury IRs him.

Hart?

Alec Andersen?

Tenuta was a draft pick, those guys sometimes get more roster shots.

 

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4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

So Dawkins-Saffold-Morse-Bates-Brown.  Quessenberry as swing tackle.  Mancz as backup C/G

 

Two more, 3 at most.  Who?  I would guess Tommy Doyle unless his injury IRs him.

Hart?

Alec Andersen?

Tenuta was a draft pick, those guys sometimes get more roster shots.

 

As crazy as it sounds, Hart might make this team lol

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