the Punt god

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

Thanks dude! I’m just saying, we’re essentially calling someone who plays the least most important position in football “God”.

 

That’s rediculous.

It’s all in fun -including sky fairies really existing. Just for fun.

[L Ron Burgundy]

16 hours ago, davefan66 said:

If the Colts returner fields that kick at the 14, our guys were at about the 45.  He would have gotten a decent return on it.  Once other teams see film, they’ll put their return guy in better position to field it.  Although, no way on a punt that long the return team could set up their blocks.
 

It seemed effortless to get the air distance he did.  I wonder if it’s possible for him to kick it even further?

 

Like this kid over Haack because of a stronger leg and and more importantly, quicker to get the ball off his foot.  I’d like to see how he does with shorter and out of bounds kicks.  I don’t see that being the kick that seals his place in the team.  The day he was drafted did that.  They just needed to make sure he wasn’t a disaster and could hold.  Competition over.

 

Edit:  Rewatching, I love the roar of the crowd at the 40 when they realize the ball is going the distance.  We sit upper deck, and you expect the ball at a certain part of the arc to descend, that’s when this punt just took off!  It was insane to watch!

They will start having returners go back deeper but we can be trickier knowing teams will do that.

[TBBills]

5 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

They will start having returners go back deeper but we can be trickier knowing teams will do that.

No rather you boot it out of the endzone. Never having to worry about a punt return is a million times better than anything you can hope for.

 

The Bills aren't punting unless they are stuck deep in their own territory and that is what The Punt God  will do, force the team to start from the 25 no matter what.

Edited August 15, 2022 by TBBills

[Pete]

7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

That 98 yard kick was sick. I watched a video of it. 65 or so yards and then bounces forward. Returner picked it up at the one and was tackled at the 2 or 3. That's 96 or 97 net yards.

I saw it that Sunday.  Randall was a great athlete that who could play in todays NFL.  The other thing I remember about Randall is how when he was about to be tackled, he would curl into a ball and launch himself into player, instead of sliding

[freddyjj]

On 8/13/2022 at 9:54 PM, ALLEN1QB said:

Remember when Flutie punted thru uprights? Is that play still legal if so the god needs to do it.

Technically, Flutie dropped kick the ball for 3 points.  Alternative to FG.  

[ExiledInIllinois]

7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

That 98 yard kick was sick. I watched a video of it. 65 or so yards and then bounces forward. Returner picked it up at the one and was tackled at the 2 or 3. That's 96 or 97 net yards.

He muffed it, I think. Touched it way up field.  He had to pick it up and attempt to get it up field.   Was a live ball.  If he gets tackled in EZ, it'd been a safety. 

 

82 yards, as not as sexy... Is more impressive.  Talking difference of 16 yards all not bouncing around 40.

[Buffalo Boy]

   Just saw the nickname Legatron on a friends FB page.

LEGATRON!!!!

[Doc]

So, strongest arm and leg in the NFL on the same team?

[Son of a K-Gun]

22 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

A lot of people online giving crap about it being a touchback. The guy kicked it from inside his own 10 yard line! Are you expecting a punter to pin the other team deep when you are punting from inside your own 10? If you are punting in that situation then your team screwed up so if you can force a touchback and no return then that is a huge win!

In what world is 62-net on a punt not good enough?  The situation there called for one thing, to blast that ball as far as he could to flip the field.  Mission accomplished.

 

22 hours ago, davefan66 said:

If the Colts returner fields that kick at the 14, our guys were at about the 45.  He would have gotten a decent return on it.  Once other teams see film, they’ll put their return guy in better position to field it.  Although, no way on a punt that long the return team could set up their blocks.

So let them put their return man deeper, then Araiza can hit a 50 yard "pooch" forcing a tough catch, field on a hop etc.  Thinking we could see opponents flubbing a few punts this season.

 

21 hours ago, Bakin said:

Did punt god crash the 2BD server?

shortly after the kick I couldn’t get on the site. 
someone confirm?

Think it was when Elam came off the field hurt that the site went down.  Sitting in the stadium I went checked the GDT as soon as it happened to see what was going on and the site was down by the time I clicked 'Submit Reply'.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   Just saw the nickname Legatron on a friends FB page.

LEGATRON!!!!

We can’t steal nicknames. Greg Zuerlein is legatron. 

[Son of a K-Gun]

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We can’t steal nicknames. Greg Zuerlein is legatron. 

I always thought Zuerlein was Greg the Leg, but sure enough Legatron is listed on Pro Football Reference as well.  

[sherpa]

GHOAT.

Greatest holder of all time.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

The kick left Araiza’s foot at the Bills’ 8-yard line and landed at the Colts’ 14-yard line,

It traveled 78 yards in the air.

it then rolled 15 into the EZ. 

 

where did the magic 4 yards come from?

 

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Doc]

24 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

The kick left Araiza’s foot at the Bills’ 8-yard line and landed at the Colts’ 14-yard line,

It traveled 78 yards in the air.

it then rolled 15 into the EZ. 

 

where did the magic 6 yards come from?

 

6 yards?

 

 

[Jerome007]

20 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If teams want to put their returners 60 yards away, a 13 yard return would be a net 47. For some perspective, a 13 yard return average would be the highest in NFL history. The highest net punting average in NFL history is 44.5 yards. So basically, if they put someone back 60 and averaged more return yards than anyone ever, the net would be 2.5 yards higher than any punter in history. Lol, teams can’t “adjust.” They just have to deal with trading 10-20 yards every time in the punting game.

Not only that, but I'm sure Araiza can "learn" how to punt out of bounds... Unless he completely misses the angle, it'd still be a long distance with no return. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Jerome007

[Punching Bag]

On 8/14/2022 at 2:27 PM, muppy said:

One thing I don't know regarding araiza is how he will adapt to the cold in WNY .What and if any effect on his performance in Orchard Park

 

Home field weather was very bad in 2nd half of year so NFL decides that it makes good film;  makes tough schedule at start of year for Bills, early bye and lots of home games at end of year.

[Warcodered]

 

[wppete]

We need to see him with short field punts. Hang time, direction and accuracy.

 

[NewEra]

11 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   Just saw the nickname Legatron on a friends FB page.

LEGATRON!!!!

Too late.  already taken. 
 

He already a pretty badass nickname imo.  

[Ralonzo]

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:The kick left Araiza’s foot at the Bills’ 8-yard line and landed at the Colts’ 14-yard line,

It traveled 78 yards in the air.

it then rolled 15 into the EZ. 

 

where did the magic 6 yards come from?

 

 

punt from bills 18 for touchback. 100 - 18 = 82.

[mrags]

On 8/14/2022 at 10:11 PM, The Jokeman said:

The problem is will Araiza out kick his coverage as teams learn to adjust where to put their return man. 

The guy kicked it like 70+yards in the air. I mean, think of it this way. He can kick it so far, that pretty much anytime we are even up to our 30 yard line and forced to punt, we can pretty much count on him to make it a touchback every time. 
 

if you ask me, that sounds like this team doesn’t need to justify having so many special teams aces on the team. Who gives a crap if Jones or Kumerow are good/great gunners. It’s not going to matter when your punter is giving your defense an almost guaranteed 20 yard line start every single time. So let’s use those extra positions on players that might actually make a difference offensively and defensively. 

20 hours ago, TBBills said:

No rather you boot it out of the endzone. Never having to worry about a punt return is a million times better than anything you can hope for.

 

The Bills aren't punting unless they are stuck deep in their own territory and that is what The Punt God  will do, force the team to start from the 25 no matter what.

This is what I’m talking about 

Edited August 16, 2022 by mrags

[Jay_Fixit]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:44 AM, inaugural balls said:

Posters

 

lol.

Hahahaha gets upset about a punter.

 

Punters.

 

lol.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, mrags said:

The guy kicked it like 70+yards in the air. I mean, think of it this way. He can kick it so far, that pretty much anytime we are even up to our 30 yard line and forced to punt, we can pretty much count on him to make it a touchback every time. 
 

if you ask me, that sounds like this team doesn’t need to justify having so many special teams aces on the team. Who gives a crap if Jones or Kumerow are good/great gunners. It’s not going to matter when your punter is giving your defense an almost guaranteed 20 yard line start every single time. So let’s use those extra positions on players that might actually make a difference offensively and defensively. 

This is what I’m talking about 

You're banking on him punting it 70 plus yards every time as justification for not needing good/great gunners?

[machine gun kelly]

Our roster is so deep now, it makes complete sense to use two 6th RD picks in the last two years for a fantastic kicker and now a GOD at Punter.  It definitely adds so much to flipping the field when we do have to punt.  It’s a great day when we never see Ariaza, like the Cheats game.  When we do need him, he’ll deliver.  I don’t expect him to punt every time over 80 yards, but it’s good to know he can do what 31 other punters have never demonstrated in regular games.  The most I’ve seen in the past is in the 60’s.

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

You're banking on him punting it 70 plus yards every time as justification for not needing good/great gunners?

Pipe dream. 

[Kirby Jackson]

On 8/14/2022 at 2:58 PM, Victory Formation said:

Thanks dude! I’m just saying, we’re essentially calling someone who plays the least most important position in football “God”.

 

That’s rediculous.

It’s a take on Chris Paul being “The Point God.” That became a thing 10-15 years ago. This was just a clever pun to recognize, arguably, the most gifted punter ever.

Edited August 16, 2022 by Kirby Jackson

[Son of a K-Gun]

5 hours ago, mrags said:

The guy kicked it like 70+yards in the air. I mean, think of it this way. He can kick it so far, that pretty much anytime we are even up to our 30 yard line and forced to punt, we can pretty much count on him to make it a touchback every time. 
 

if you ask me, that sounds like this team doesn’t need to justify having so many special teams aces on the team. Who gives a crap if Jones or Kumerow are good/great gunners. It’s not going to matter when your punter is giving your defense an almost guaranteed 20 yard line start every single time. So let’s use those extra positions on players that might actually make a difference offensively and defensively. 

This is what I’m talking about 

The thing is the Bills' elite special teamers are holding positions like 6th string WR, 5th string LB, 5th string RB and 5th string CB.  These aren't positions that make a difference on offense or defense, or at least we damn well hope they don't.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

17 hours ago, Doc said:

 

6 yards?

 

 

it’s a new math. 😝 
 

Oops 4 yards. 
 

78 became to 82 

[Doc]

42 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

it’s a new math. 😝 
 

Oops 4 yards. 
 

78 became to 82 

That’s what I thought. Wasn’t sure if I was missing something. 
 

But as Ralonzo said, it was measured from the LOS (18) to where it ends up. 

[Saint Doug]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s a take on Chris Paul bring “The Point God.” That became a thing 10-15 years ago. This was just a clever pun to recognize, arguably, the most gifted punter ever.

Yep, just wait until it’s freezing rain in November. We’ll then get to see if he’s really a god. 

[WotAGuy]

3 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Yep, just wait until it’s freezing rain in November. We’ll then get to see if he’s really a god. 

Since he’s a god, he’ll part the rain and then boot it. 

[Success]

While we don't punt that much anymore, it has been a weakness in the past few years.

 

This guy is a game changer.  When you can stall deep in your own territory, then turn around and pin the other team deep in theirs, it's almost an unprecedented special teams advantage.

 

[mrags]

6 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

You're banking on him punting it 70 plus yards every time as justification for not needing good/great gunners?

Yes

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

That’s what I thought. Wasn’t sure if I was missing something. 
 

But as Ralonzo said, it was measured from the LOS (18) to where it ends up. 

which is technically incorrect 

 

it s/b from where the ball 🏈 leaves the foot 🦶 

[mrags]

3 hours ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

The thing is the Bills' elite special teamers are holding positions like 6th string WR, 5th string LB, 5th string RB and 5th string CB.  These aren't positions that make a difference on offense or defense, or at least we damn well hope they don't.  

Trade the 6th string WR for ODB and it does. Trade the 5th string CB for Lewis or Benford and it does. And we will not carry 5 RBs unless you count Gilliam as a RB which he isn’t. So you are keeping Motor, Moss, Cook, Jones, and Gilliam at FB? Gtfooh. 

[Son of a K-Gun]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

Trade the 6th string WR for ODB and it does. Trade the 5th string CB for Lewis or Benford and it does. And we will not carry 5 RBs unless you count Gilliam as a RB which he isn’t. So you are keeping Motor, Moss, Cook, Jones, and Gilliam at FB? Gtfooh. 

Here's the problem with what you are saying...if the Bills bring in OBJ it wouldn't be Kumerow that gets bumped at WR, it would more likely be whoever the low man in the actual receiver rotation after the signing (Crowder?).   What value does a player like Crowder provide behind Diggs/Davis/OBJ/McKenzie/Shakir?  Kumerow's ST contributions are much greater.

 

Siran Neal actually contributes as big nickle and the Bills clearly value him based on the contract they just gave him this offseason.  I have Taron, Jackson, Elam and Benford ahead of him (assuming Tre is not available) and Neal beats out Cam Lewis for the final CB spot. 

 

I certainly do count Gilliam as one of the RB's and I would be surprised if the don't keep five...likely the five you mention in Motor, Cook, Moss, Taiwan and Gilliam.  Doesn't mean they are all active on game day by any means, but they are all making this team.

[mrags]

15 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Here's the problem with what you are saying...if the Bills bring in OBJ it wouldn't be Kumerow that gets bumped at WR, it would more likely be whoever the low man in the actual receiver rotation after the signing (Crowder?).   What value does a player like Crowder provide behind Diggs/Davis/OBJ/McKenzie/Shakir?  Kumerow's ST contributions are much greater.

 

Siran Neal actually contributes as big nickle and the Bills clearly value him based on the contract they just gave him this offseason.  I have Taron, Jackson, Elam and Benford ahead of him (assuming Tre is not available) and Neal beats out Cam Lewis for the final CB spot. 

 

I certainly do count Gilliam as one of the RB's and I would be surprised if the don't keep five...likely the five you mention in Motor, Cook, Moss, Taiwan and Gilliam.  Doesn't mean they are all active on game day by any means, but they are all making this team.

Well. You and I have different opinions on some of this. I think Kumerow is pretty much a wasted roster spot. Especially when you have a kicker that has the ability to boot it out of the end zone and now a punter who can boot it out of the end zone. I’d save the roster spot for a real WR that actually contributes in offense. His 8 catches or whatever it is in the last 2 years isn’t impressing anyone. But hey, he has great hair and looks like Jesus so he must be great. 
 

I agree with Neal and I do not suggest removing him from the roster. 
 

Jones I feel just the same as I do about Kumerow. He’s a wasted roster spot at the position. He will literally never get on the field as a RB. All your doing is costing Moss a game day roster spot because they aren’t going to dress 5 RBs ever. You said it yourself. 
 

all this, especially when you have young guys like Bernard, Spector, Benford and Shakir on your roster that can all contribute on special teams. 
 

time to rid yourself of players that don’t do anything well except STs. They are costing you roster spots for real players that actually contribute on offense and defense as well. Also getting rid of large contract players like Matekevich. There’s almost no reason he should be making 3.2m. Between him and Jones, If you cut both you would save over 4m in cap. Add another 900k for Kumerow. I’d take that 5m and sign ODB in a heartbeat. OR… use that money to help sign Poyer or Edmunds. 
 

but hey, neither of us are the teams GM or HC so we won’t have a say regardless. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by mrags

[WotAGuy]

47 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

which is technically incorrect 

 

it s/b from where the ball 🏈 leaves the foot 🦶 

Really?  They don’t count passing yards from where the QB throws the ball from, now do they?

[Solomon Grundy]

It’s safe to say we won’t see any 18 yd punts from midfield 

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

It’s safe to say we won’t see any 18 yd punts from midfield 

only if it's the ball coming back around the Earth.