billsbackto81 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/04/with-no-trade-market-developing-giants-close-to-releasing-james-bradberry/ Really thought he would've been acquired by now whether by us or KC who also had interest. Would be a solid acquisition as they bring Elam up to speed providing the price is right. Xavier Rhodes would be a nice get as well. Not as big on Haden as a lot of others here are. 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I wouldn’t get high hopes for this.. I think they are pretty much done at CB. Maybe another camp body they might add 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Is he subject to waivers? If so I’d imagine no team will claim him and will wait until he clears to negotiate their own contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Is he subject to waivers? If so I’d imagine no team will claim him and will wait until he clears to negotiate their own contract. No waivers 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 He is not subject to waivers. He is a veteran. https://gmenhq.com/2022/05/03/ny-giants-running-out-options-james-bradberry-contract/ Quote Perhaps the worst kept secret of the Joe Schoen era so far is that the NY Giants are looking to move on from James Bradberry. It is not a reflection of the player himself, with Bradberry still playing as the CB1 in 2021, but rather an inability to pay his current salary. As it stands, the Giants have an “effective cap space” of -$7.2 million, according to ‘Over The Cap‘ – a number that takes into account the cost of signing the team’s rookie draft class. If they are forced to cut Bradberry, rather than find a trade destination, the savings against the salary cap will be over $10 million – enough to allow the Giants to sign their 2022 rookies. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/james-bradberry-19011/ Quote Current Contract James Bradberry signed a 3 year, $43,500,000 contract with the New York Giants, including $31,980,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $14,500,000. In 2022, Bradberry will earn a base salary of $13,400,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000, while carrying a cap hit of $21,863,889 and a dead cap value of $11,727,778. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: I wouldn’t get high hopes for this.. I think they are pretty much done at CB. Maybe another camp body they might add Tre coming back from an ACL 2nd year CB Dane Jackson Rookie Kaiir Elam You're ok with that going into the season with all the high powered offenses we'll see this year? Just asking your opinion, we know it's not our decision to make. 11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I’d be surprised if Beane doesn’t do his due diligence to at least see what his camp is asking for. He’d be great on a 1 year deal where he’d come to the Bills and be the best version of himself 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion Why would Beane give them that if the Giant’s only other option is to release him? 2 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/james-bradberry-19011/#:~:text=Current Contract,average annual salary of %2414%2C500%2C000. Bills did not want any part of that contract either. 13.5 mill cap hit for 2022. And he is #1 CB starter on Giants, so he is not taking a big cut either without testing the waters first. Edited May 4, 2022 by cba fan 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion Maybe we didn’t want the salary after taking a CB in the first. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion I can’t imagine we even tried. Why would we trade for his salary on the first place? 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Any trade market they had probably dried up as the draft went along. If the Bills had been in the mix, once Elam was drafted, we became a little less desperate to trade draft capital for him. As Schoen has said himself, Beane is a killer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion The title of the article outright states that "no trade market developed". If we offered them something, they'd have made the deal. No GM is going to turn down picks from a team in another conference to release them for nothing. It's obvious that Beane didn't make an offer. And after Drafting 2 CB's, 1 in the 1st Round, I don't see them being in on him even as a Free Agent. Especially at what his cost will be and other teams most likely offering a better opportunity long term than we have here. Edited May 4, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Even with Elam I would not be against a vet corner That was always my want for this offseason.........sign one....draft one 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Tre coming back from an ACL 2nd year CB Dane Jackson Rookie Kaiir Elam You're ok with that going into the season with all the high powered offenses we'll see this year? Just asking your opinion, we know it's not our decision to make. And Taron Johnson in the Nickel And Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer behind them Tre White will be back by Week 4 at the latest. We just spent a 1st Round pick on a highly talented CB on the other side. Dane Jackson played CB2 from Thanksgiving and through the playoffs. Bradberry's going to have options and far better opportunities to see the field on a more regular basis than we'll offer. And we're not going to pay what it will cost to get him for the kind of role he'd play here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Tre coming back from an ACL 2nd year CB Dane Jackson Rookie Kaiir Elam You're ok with that going into the season with all the high powered offenses we'll see this year? Just asking your opinion, we know it's not our decision to make. Am OK with it, so-so. I'd like to see another vet brought in bu likely Bradberry is out of our price point. Could be trickle down effect, whomever he signs with releases someone else and a lower cost 26 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: I’d be surprised if Beane doesn’t do his due diligence to at least see what his camp is asking for. He’d be great on a 1 year deal where he’d come to the Bills and be the best version of himself 😂 Agree, if they could get him at a low cost, great. Also depends on when they really think White will be a go. If it's by Oct 1st then may be better looking for a lower cost option. Also want to let the rookie play a fair amount to get his feet wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 50 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion Why would the Bills want that contract? And no, they don't want to help. Nobody helps anybody like that. They all have the same goal and only one can win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Pick him up and trade Elam to get our 4th rounder back 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I know how we can free up 12.7 mil.......just sayin 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Beane was on One Bills Live right after the draft and they asked him about adding other Free Agents and Beane basically said they don’t have room with the top 53 cap at the moment. Im sure if they want a player bad enough they would make a move but with Tre trending towards week 1, Elam and Dane, I would be surprised if they brought Bradberry in. Edited May 4, 2022 by LEBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, nosejob said: I know how we can free up 12.7 mil.......just sayin If he gets released we dont need to pay that contract (Bradbury) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Still hoping a quality interior offensive linemen becomes available. I hope you find a way to work this talking point into every single thread this summer. It will be fun watching you find new indirect ways of bringing it up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: Why would Beane give them that if the Giant’s only other option is to release him? Because theres a 1 in 31 chance at landing a guy, provided you do want him. Giants take on half the salary in a more cost controlled scenario. Get rrrrr done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Hoping for a dream. He gets released and there's little league interest for him at that salary. Then he takes a "Bills discount" to get his ring. I'm a dreamer... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion Or…we don’t want to pay him and drafted 2 CBs already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Welcome to an AFC contender Mr Bradberry 41 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Still hoping a quality interior offensive linemen becomes available. In the James Bradberry thread….. way to contribute!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Giants couldn't have used the Bills picks in rds 4-7 for Bradberry? Seems to me like Schoen and Daboll don't have any thoughts on helping the Bills out in any shape, form or fashion If the Giants were to trade Bradberry they would’ve likely had to restructure his contract. Obviously that wasn’t an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/04/with-no-trade-market-developing-giants-close-to-releasing-james-bradberry/ Really thought he would've been acquired by now whether by us or KC who also had interest. Would be a solid acquisition as they bring Elam up to speed providing the price is right. Xavier Rhodes would be a nice get as well. Not as big on Haden as a lot of others here are. At 14M per season that's just too rich for what he brings which is a boom or bust corner. I wouldn't hate the idea of bringing him in but he's sure to cost around 10M per season since Donte Jackson got a 3 year 35M deal with 11M guaranteed and he's a bit less proven than Bradberry. I think Haden would be a better fit and on a 1 year deal which would make more sense imo. What is is that you don't like about Haden other than age? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Would be a nice final piece to add to the secondary as even with Elam added there is a lack of depth at the position esp if Tre isn’t ready to go at the start of the season. Add him and another vet Oline piece would be the last fine tuning of the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Tre coming back from an ACL 2nd year CB Dane Jackson Rookie Kaiir Elam You're ok with that going into the season with all the high powered offenses we'll see this year? Just asking your opinion, we know it's not our decision to make. At least it’s those three fighting for two jobs, not three…. It sounds a lot worse thinking it’s three jobs…. I think the kid from Villanova also makes it as the fourth outside CB. Unless the Bills drafted him to be a safety? IDK? That could be another healthy body at the position. But yes, I expect Elam to start week one. It’s Tre that is the big question mark and I’m sure the Bills know a whole lot more than we do on White’s progress. I don’t even know what the return time is for an ACL anymore? Anybody know this? I was told it is not a full year anymore but then how long is it? The Bottom Line: Our back seven ought to be real fine once everyone settles down. If there is one thing this regime can do, it’s draft corners and get them ready for the opener. Sure, they are going to take some lumps early but once they settle down I see our back seven as one of the best in the league…. ………… Tremaine …… Milano ………. TJ Tre……. Hyde ………… Poyer …………… Elam. We’ve been wanting to add a high ceiling guy to those six vets for awhile. I’m glad we all got to see it in action (knock on wood) before we lose Poyer and Hyde. It ought to be pretty sensational. Health is a big question every year, but what we need to see is a big improvement on that defensive line in order for this defense to really be one that can win a Super Bowl. But as far as Elam goes, I think he is plug and play. The Bills would not have traded up if it weren’t so… He’s a freakin’ #1 pick! Of course he is starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I would love to have him but I don’t think the Bills will be able to match what he will get on the open market, unless they can get him on a one year deal worth around $8m or less. With Elam and White, I just don’t see them investing too much on another DB beyond 2022. I think the Bills will get a veteran CB but it won’t be too costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Maybe we didn’t want the salary after taking a CB in the first. Could've made trade before the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/04/with-no-trade-market-developing-giants-close-to-releasing-james-bradberry/ Really thought he would've been acquired by now whether by us or KC who also had interest. Would be a solid acquisition as they bring Elam up to speed providing the price is right. Xavier Rhodes would be a nice get as well. Not as big on Haden as a lot of others here are. He'll almost certainly get a lot more money than they are going to be willing to pay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Mets are off to a great start for once… You think Pete Alonso can play Guard? I’ll hang up and listen. Speaking of MLB... Are we gonna replace that Tremaine Edmunds guy or what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Why would the Bills want that contract? And no, they don't want to help. Nobody helps anybody like that. They all have the same goal and only one can win. Many on here was okay with the contract prior to the Bills drafting Elam. We've all seen contracts get reworked. Giants are a NFC team. Doubt we'll be seeing them in any SB matches any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Could've made trade before the draft. I thought you were kidding at first. Bradberry has been in the league for 5 seasons. He has zero All-Pros and 1 Pro Bowl (2020). You want the Bills to pay him his base salary of $13.4 million for this year? His cap hit of $21.8 million this year is second only to Jalen Ramsey among cornerbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Welcome to an AFC contender Mr Bradberry In the James Bradberry thread….. way to contribute!! He'll end up with the JETS😎 3 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: I thought you were kidding at first. Bradberry has been in the league for 5 seasons. He has zero All-Pros and 1 Pro Bowl (2020). You want the Bills to pay him his base salary of $13.4 million for this year? They did it with other former Carolina players, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: They did it with other former Carolina players, didn't they? Did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Or…we don’t want to pay him and drafted 2 CBs already I was thinking about making the offer after Levi and his drawers went to Pittsburgh or prior to draft day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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