Rd 3, Pick 89 (25): LB Terrell Bernard, Baylor

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I am not about to wade through 23 pages of comments to confirm or deny Mr. Bernard's qualifications, but I believe part of the selection was based upon sympathy that the poor guy had to wear that  ugly arse uniform in college.

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[MAJBobby]

Well another High RAS score player. With a good athletic profile. 
 

don’t know much about him but will likely come in and play on Teams right away. Need some depth at LBer. And likely is Big Nickel candidate 

[YoloinOhio]

9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Well this pick should help calm speculation of what the Bills are going to do with Edmunds.

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1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

I don't remember any Terrel Brandon Please threads

Mine was in my Notes app

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

He is a tweener. The NFL is a whole different animal then the Big 12. Literally, this guy was not on anyone's radar. Beane is on his own island here. 

“Literally”?  Cool that you have access to every team’s board to know whose radar he wasn’t on. I’ll take Beane’s island for 100.

 

none of us know anything - best to not speak in absolutes at this point in time. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[atlbillsfan1975]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

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Mine was in my Notes app

“Literally”?  Cool that you have access to every team’s board to know whose radar he wasn’t on. I’ll take Beane’s island for 100.

 

none of us know anything - best to not speak in absolutes at this point in time. 

I was joking, some people might see LB and 3rd round and think it has something to do with Edmunds.

[BillsFan130]

55 minutes ago, Georgie said:

Would Austin be redundant after drafting Cook?

Good point. A little bit

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Parham was a by far better pick. The Raiders ran to the podium with the very next pick and selected him. They should at least give Beane a little present for that gift. Instead, the may have a solid 3rd round special teamer. Does it really matter when they kick the ball in the end zone? 

 

 

 

No. It wasn't "by far a better pick." You say that like it's a fact when reality is we'll know in three years or so.

 

Your opinion is that it's a better pick? Hey fair enough, to each their own.

 

If he turns out to be a 3rd round special teamer and Parham doesn't turn into a JAG or worse, you'll be right. Both of those outcomes might happen, but there's no particular reason to think we know for sure.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

43 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I agree with everything here.  Especially the desperation of so many to draft a wr, I don't understand.  We've replaced Beasley with Crowder which is realistically an upgrade - and added Cook as another receiving option/weapon.  Not to mention Davis' surging as legit  (maybe elite) wr talent.  We are probably better off in the receiving game than last year - were people gnashing and screaming last year that our receiving game sucked?

OJ Howard & Duke Johnson for the pass game too 

[Helpmenow]

9 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Midget.

 

 

Watch him play much. Nose for the football

[SoCal Deek]

I know very little about all of these college prospects but I noticed that not too long after our third round pick the Browns took David Bell, WR from Purdue. I watched a few of his games last year and that kid caught like a thousand passes (kidding). I forgot all about him during the run up to the draft. Anyone know what his downside was? 

Edited April 30, 2022 by SoCal Deek

[FLFan]

I am not sure what their plan is for Bernard.  Potential replacement for Milano or safety candidate?  If they took him in the third round they likely view him as more than a ST contributor and occasional big nickel role player long term, although that may be his initial role.  He look like more of a safety to me.

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, What a Tuel said:

 

yeah somehow i sat on the remote and switched to that instead of nfl network and realized it after they were like "and bills picked bernard, moving on to the raiders" with literally nothing on the guy.

What a waste of Kyle Brandt’s moment!! Hell, I wish he would’ve just read his name 😎

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I know very little about all of these college prospects but I noticed that not too long after our third round pick the Browns took David Bell, WR from Purdue. I watched a few of his games last year and that kid caught like a thousand passes (kidding). I forgot all about him during the run up to the draft. Anyone know what his downside was? 

Slow and doesn’t get separation. Hes not big, or fast. Just an ordinary player as he projects to the nfl. He was a pretty big recruit a few years ago, Ohio state had interest but he chose Purdue because he knew he wouldn’t get the targets at Ohio state. He made the most of his time at Purdue, a really good college WR. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[Solomon Grundy]

53 minutes ago, george c said:

Potential safety. 

Just draft one 

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

He is a tweener. The NFL is a whole different animal then the Big 12. Literally, this guy was not on anyone's radar. Beane is on his own island here. 

 

 

He may well be a tweener.

 

But part of the whole different animal that the NFL is ... is that more and more tweeners are finding homes and becoming terrific players in today's NFL.

 

"He wasn't on anyone's radar"? That's utter nonsense. He was on many people's radar. Not the Bills so much because Bills fans had different ideas about what the Bills needed and wanted than Beane does. Beane - and everyone, really - have included LB on Bills need lists. Many fans thought that meant they wanted to replace Tremaine, but clearly what Beane meant was that he wanted to replace Klein and at the same time get some desperately needed quality backup talent in there for Milano and Tremaine.

 

Not on anyone's radar? Except for Cowboy fans, Steeler fans, Bears fans, Giants fans, Raiders fans ... and I could go on and on and on.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/cowboys/comments/sxihpv/a_cowboys_mock_draft/

 

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2022/4/4/23009076/what-could-a-defensive-focused-draft-look-like-for-the-steelers-pittsburgh-stingley-davis-bryant-nfl

 

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2022/04/27/chicago-bears-mock-draft-down-to-the-wire-nfl-draft-2022/

 

https://flipboard.com/video/fannation/1b0777642a

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/linebackers-land-squarely-raiders-draft-211515946.html

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Slow and doesn’t get separation. Hes not big, or fast. Just an ordinary player as he projects to the nfl. 

Thanks. I remember very few players but I did recall watching him catch virtually every pass Purdue threw in a game last year. It was crazy…and I’m not even sure why I happened to see that game.

[LEBills]

9 hours ago, LEBills said:

Total McDermott pick

 

Baylor’s coach Dave Aranda is a close buddy of McD.

 

I think this is a poor pick being the third round is early for him. they must have been worried he would go prior to our fifth round pick.

 

However, last pick McDermott got Aranda’s insight on was Tre White as he had been Tre’s DC at LSU. So let’s hope they know a lot more than we do!

Beane’s presser confirmed what I had expected. Said he, McD and Frazier all called Aranda about him and that they trust his opinion because he is a straight shooter. Beane says it will be up to coaches to figure out how to use him. Not exactly inspiring words from Beane, definitely a depth piece and ST initially.
 

Hopefully he turns into something down the line like the heir to Milano. Still pretty bummed we took him in the third but maybe we will get someone in the 5th or 6th that wasn’t expected to fall and it will all kinda wash.

[LabattBlue]

Up to the coaches to figure out how to use him?  Huh? 

[4BillsVegas]

terrel bernard should have been a 5th or one of our six 6th round picks. He definitely would have still been there. But a WASTE of a 3rd round pick. If they felt he would be gone in the fourth(which we have 0 picks. Trade down, get a 4th and additional 5th if possible.

 

[Magox]

I have seen some people talking as if Bernard could be the eventual replacement to Poyer.   That isn’t happening, he’s a LB and he is roughly the exact size as Milano when he came to the league.   
 

Bernard will be asked to play Special Teams and to play both inside and out LB spots and they’ll just see how to best apply him.  He probably will be used on some specific occasions such as blitzing because he is a hell of a blitzer and probably a few other situations.

 

I would expect him to get jacked up physically similar to how Milano did, they both have very similar body types as to when Milano came into the league.

 

Here is what was said about him by Beane:

 

To have a depth player that can move around and fill in wherever he's needed is one of the reasons they drafted him in the third round. Beane is excited to see where the coaches find the best fit for him.

"He's played both at Baylor, for us I'll let the coaches ultimately determine it, but he can play both - he can play inside or play out," Beane shared. "He really could. Super smart, he's going to be undersized. He's not going to be your prototype size. If he's playing Mike, he's going to be the opposite of what Tremaine looks like inside, but we do think he can do both. We like his versatility, super instinctive.

"You can blitz anybody, but he's got a feel for it, a knack for it, similar to our safeties the way they do. He's a fun player to watch. If you're criticizing him, he's an undersized linebacker but I like his ability to match up in the passing game if he's at the Will. He'll just come in here and have to compete and we'll see where his best fit is, but my guess is maybe he bounces around a little bit."

 

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

He is a tweener. The NFL is a whole different animal then the Big 12. Literally, this guy was not on anyone's radar. Beane is on his own island here. 

Then so was Milano.  They were almost both identical in height and weight when Milano came out.

[YoloinOhio]

18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks. I remember very few players but I did recall watching him catch virtually every pass Purdue threw in a game last year. It was crazy…and I’m not even sure why I happened to see that game.

He reminds me a lot of Isaiah Hodgins. 

[Slack_in_MA]

Here's hoping it's one of those "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but rather the fight in the dog" situations. 

[Dopey]

53 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I was joking, some people might see LB and 3rd round and think it has something to do with Edmunds.

It would be the same group thinking that way. 😂

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Slept on it and I hate this pick even more

[Magox]

Matt Milano coming out of college:

 

6 foot half inch

223 lbs

4.67 40 time

last two seasons in college 13 sacks 118 tackles

 

Terrell Bernard:

 

6 foot 3/4 of an inch

222 lbs

4.59 40 time

last two seasons 11 sacks and 158 tackles

 

Terrell will easily gain 5-10 lbs without giving up anything athletically

 

 

Perspective

 

[LEBills]

Just now, Magox said:

Matt Milano coming out of college:

 

6 foot half inch

223 lbs

4.67 40 time

last two seasons in college 13 sacks 118 tackles

 

Terrell Bernard:

 

6 foot 3/4 of an inch

222 lbs

4.59 40 time

last two seasons 11 sacks and 158 tackles

 

Terrell will easily gain 5-10 lbs without giving up anything athletically

 

 

Perspective

 

Milano was a 5th round pick and starter

 

Bernard is a 3rd round pick and backup

 

But yes he may take over for Milano in two years when they can get out of his contract

[Mopreme]

34 minutes ago, BTB said:

Up to the coaches to figure out how to use him?  Huh? 

I don’t have a problem with the player. I have a problem with where they picked him.  Day 2 guys should be impact starters at a confirmed position or close to it unless the guy has ridiculous upside but needs a year to get adjusted (e.g. small school guy).     

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

Matt Milano coming out of college:

 

6 foot half inch

223 lbs

4.67 40 time

last two seasons in college 13 sacks 118 tackles

 

Terrell Bernard:

 

6 foot 3/4 of an inch

222 lbs

4.59 40 time

last two seasons 11 sacks and 158 tackles

 

Terrell will easily gain 5-10 lbs without giving up anything athletically

 

 

Perspective

 

I looked at the pic in the news this morning and thought that we might change our minds about this after he spends a year in an NFL strength/nutrition program.  There’s room to grow for him.   

[CaliBills]

2 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

I don’t have a problem with the player. I have a problem with where they picked him.  Day 2 guys should be impact starters at a confirmed position or close to it unless the guy has ridiculous upside but needs a year to get adjusted (e.g. small school guy).     

Day 2 draft picks should only be starting if the team has needs.

 

The bills do not have needs after the CB on Day 1 so Day 2 and on is all just for depth.  No starters except a punter if they take one.

[MrEpsYtown]

Always remember that Milano pulled his hamstring on that 4.67 forty. He is faster than that. 

[SCBills]

Special Teams, LB3 in certain sets & Primary backup for Edmunds/Milano.  
 

After watching tape, I don’t hate it.  I see why they wanted him, and right after us teams went off picking linebackers. 
 

We just go SO heavy on defensive investment.  
 

I love the James Cook pick, and thought for sure RD3 would snag us a WR or OL, only to select another defensive player.  
 

For me, it’s not the player, I get his fit for our defense and his tape is fun to watch, but we have very real IOL/WR depth areas we can address and we do this in RD3..

 

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by SCBills

[OldTimer1960]

10 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

I don’t have a problem with the player. I have a problem with where they picked him.  Day 2 guys should be impact starters at a confirmed position or close to it unless the guy has ridiculous upside but needs a year to get adjusted (e.g. small school guy).     

Impact starter is a lot to expect late in round 3.  Still, like to think they could find a guy who at least has potential to eventually be a starter.  Not sure Bernard has that potential at his size.  I don’t see the conversion to S that some are suggesting here.

[SWATeam]

13 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Milano was a 5th round pick and starter

 

Bernard is a 3rd round pick and backup

 

But yes he may take over for Milano in two years when they can get out of his contract

Could be the 3rd LB taking over for Klein.  Some whispers they may be playing more 3 LB sets.  Seems like a great blitzer too.

[OldTimer1960]

12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I looked at the pic in the news this morning and thought that we might change our minds about this after he spends a year in an NFL strength/nutrition program.  There’s room to grow for him.   

Do they not have weights at Baylor?  Now, maybe his coaches wanted him playing that light, but I suspect that he has already been training hard.

[LEBills]

Just now, SWATeam said:

Could be the 3rd LB taking over for Klein.  Some whispers they may be playing more 3 LB sets.  Seems like a great blitzer too.

We knew hey were going to draft a LB bc all the sniffing around they did pre-draft. He has some talent. Backup off ball LB (we played 2 LBs 90% of the time last year) in the 3rd is just not the best asset allocation is all.

[jkeerie]

16 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Milano was a 5th round pick and starter

 

Bernard is a 3rd round pick and backup

 

But yes he may take over for Milano in two years when they can get out of his contract

When you think about it, outside of Elam and Cook thus far, with our roster, a lot of these guys are going to be backups.  We've built up depth the last two years.  Bernard largely replaces what we lost in Klein.  We gave up the salary albeit also the experience, but they like the instincts of Bernard.

[SWATeam]

One of my concerns with this team was our lack of comparatively high end athletes.  All three picks have addressed this.

[SectionC3]

5 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Do they not have weights at Baylor?  Now, maybe his coaches wanted him playing that light, but I suspect that he has already been training hard.

 

Hard and right can be two different things.  The s/c staff here is top notch.  They'll have him eating right all the time (no dorm food, ever) and get him on the right program to grow him into the player that they want him to be.  I didn't like this too much last night but, having thought it through, it tells me how much they like and value Milano because this guy can be the next Milano.  

[OldTimer1960]

Just now, jkeerie said:

When you think about it, outside of Elam and Cook thus far, with our roster, a lot of these guys are going to be backups.  We've built up depth the last two years.  Bernard largely replaces what we lost in Klein.  We gave up the salary albeit also the experience, but they like the instincts of Bernard.

True, but it isn’t that most anyone they picked would sit behind someone for a time, my concern is that it is a stretch to see him ever developing into more than a sub-package coverage guy and special teamer.  I realize that there is only about a 25% chance of finding an eventual starter that late in round 3.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

10 hours ago, buffblue said:

Not in terms of providing their All Pro QB with legit gamebreaking talent. This is indisputable

 

And it's clearly affected their offense and Rodgers output...not. 

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Hard and right can be two different things.  The s/c staff here is top notch.  They'll have him eating right all the time (no dorm food, ever) and get him on the right program to grow him into the player that they want him to be.  I didn't like this too much last night but, having thought it through, it tells me how much they like and value Milano because this guy can be the next Milano.  

I get it, but it isn’t like He is coming from South Central Alaska State.  I’m sure that Baylor has a top notch strength and conditioning program and facilities.