78thealltimegreat Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 We really do need a Cb before the draft you don’t ever want to go into a draft with a glaring need. Else teams already know where you’re going with the first couple picks and will jump your pick to get a guy cause they know you’re targeting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: We really do need a Cb before the draft you don’t ever want to go into a draft with a glaring need. Else teams already know where you’re going with the first couple picks and will jump your pick to get a guy cause they know you’re targeting them. We were in on Peterson so I think Beene will add a veteran - have a feeling it’ll be Nelson, though I can dream about Gilmore Edited March 31, 2022 by Turbo44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Doesn't surprise me. Probably wanted to get him on a bargain as evidenced by him staying in Minnesota for a year. This is the type of signing I'd expect. A vet with starting experience who can provide a little more coverage for a few games when Tre's out and provide depth and leadership behind our 1st or 2nd round, at a cap friendly price for a season. Big time signings or trades like Stephon Gilmore or James Bradberry is unrealistic. I'd be looking at Joe Haden or Steven Nelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: We were in on Peterson so I think Beene will add a veteran - have a feeling it’ll be Nelson, though I can dream about Gilmore But why would you do that: 1) for a team that willingly moved on from him, and 2) that plays a zone scheme he is less ideally suited for, and 3) that asks its corners to actually tackle? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: I have a lot of faith in the FO but that doesn't mean every move they make is a good one. The best GMs make mistakes. And right now Beane has me worried about the CB position. But the offseason is far from over. I've not seen anyone make the assertion they don't make mistakes, but given the track record.. defaulting to "they made a huge blunder" doesn't make sense. In fact, I continually make the claim that beane is good because he limits the impact of his risks and moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Joe Haden come on down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Would love to see Nelson or Haden, in addition to a high draft pick. Bradberry would change the calculus though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 15 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: I love that they thought about it. I trust them to make good decisions at a high rate as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So next on my list is Joe Haden or Bradberry I'd take them over Peterson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I like Dane Jackson as a #4 or #5 CB, but I suspect much of the game planning and play calling was to give him help or mitigate his liability. That takes away from what the defense as a whole can do. I know our D was OK against weak offenses, but we still had issues. It wasn't all on Jackson either. Still, he's a significant weak spot in our D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 What happened to Kyle Fuller? Always great with the Bears and very healthy but seemed to have a down year with the Broncos and now a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 16 hours ago, papazoid said: haven't you heard......buffalo is the mystery team in on every player probably a sneaky signing coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 So Beane is clearly planning to sign a vet CB before the draft…awesome to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 16 hours ago, Steptide said: Who did he sign with? Minnesota re-signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: To continue in the great tradition of Vontae Davis and Josh Norman. ...and it IS an even year!! Don't forget Phillip Gaines, EJ Gaines, and Kevin Johnson. OBD has been veteran CB retread central for some time. 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: I like Dane Jackson as a #4 or #5 CB, but I suspect much of the game planning and play calling was to give him help or mitigate his liability. That takes away from what the defense as a whole can do. I know our D was OK against weak offenses, but we still had issues. It wasn't all on Jackson either. Still, he's a significant weak spot in our D. So in your estimation Dane Jackson is not good enough to be our 3rd CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: He got way more money than I think Beane was offering. Didn't seem like a lot of money to me - $4M is Levi Wallace money. Could be the market is drying up. Or maybe relative to Rhodes/Nelson/or Haden it was too much, or they just prefer one of the other remaining CBs. Getting a little tight though - kind of like when the market for the big pass rushers was thinning out. Beane has come through before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 16 hours ago, Utah John said: Wallace didn't sign for a huge amount in Pittsburgh. I think the Bills, who have watched him closely for years, figured he just wasn't ever going to be good enough, and that someone with equivalent skills to his would be available. I'm sure this wasn't a careless decision on the part of Beane. Agree. Beane doesn't make careless decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) His "the decision" planned announcement on his social media was reminiscent of JJ Watt and I was out once I heard. Now I'm just banking that Beane did his due diligence so I'm not proven wrong. Edited March 31, 2022 by benderbender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 17 hours ago, Utah John said: Wallace didn't sign for a huge amount in Pittsburgh. I think the Bills, who have watched him closely for years, figured he just wasn't ever going to be good enough, and that someone with equivalent skills to his would be available. I'm sure this wasn't a careless decision on the part of Beane. He literally got Siran Neal money to put it in perspective. Possibly the Bills thought Wallace would get more on the open market but I think if they wanted Wallace back they would’ve beat the low number the Steelers gave him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Don't forget Phillip Gaines, EJ Gaines, and Kevin Johnson. OBD has been veteran CB retread central for some time. So in your estimation Dane Jackson is not good enough to be our 3rd CB. 3rd corner meaning the nickel or 3rd corner meaning the 3rd outside corner? He’s best as the 3rd outside corner…like he was last season. Thing is, he might be better than Haden and Nelson at this point. Meaning we’ll have 2 backup corners starting for the first 1/3-1/2 of the the year. of we sign a vet, we should still be drafting a corner in the 1st 3rds, preferably 1-2 imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 17 hours ago, Warcodered said: and why would we let Levi Wallace go if we didn't have confidence in Dane? Because he was roasted all season long against good QB’s. Mahomes made Levi his b@$&? The last 3 time we played them. We need to beat KC to get to the SB, hence, see ya Levi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Because he was roasted all season long against good QB’s. Mahomes made Levi his b@$&? The last 3 time we played them. We need to beat KC to get to the SB, hence, see ya Levi. I just think Beane has a price point and this year a team was willing to pay it so they wished him well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Didn't seem like a lot of money to me - $4M is Levi Wallace money. Could be the market is drying up. Or maybe relative to Rhodes/Nelson/or Haden it was too much, or they just prefer one of the other remaining CBs. Getting a little tight though - kind of like when the market for the big pass rushers was thinning out. Beane has come through before. Oh I thought someone here said he got a 1 year $10M or $11M deal...maybe I misread something. Yeah, if it was $4M then that would have likely been in our ball park at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Oh I thought someone here said he got a 1 year $10M or $11M deal...maybe I misread something. Yeah, if it was $4M then that would have likely been in our ball park at least. Looking back I can see how there can be confusion. I think you need to disregard the ramblings of this billybrew and instead reference the page 2 tweet from Mike Garafolo - looks like a $4M + $1M incentive deal. If the FO can get a Rhodes or Nelson or Bradberry for around $4-5M, I think we would be looking at another GM of the year award for Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 It's good to hear we are still doing the obvious in terms of pursuing a veteran DB. At some point though the market is going to dry up quickly, likely before or right after the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 18 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Would have loved the talent but probably too expensive unless we think Dane Jackson is not ready to start yet. Ummm. Best case scenario is Tre starts week one, but takes a few weeks to ramp back up. Worst case scenario, Tre misses a few weeks then takes time to get back to form. Either way, Dane Jackson is not ready to start in that scenario. Is that even being debated at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 His contract he signed was very manageable. Disappointing he didn't choose here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: Ummm. Best case scenario is Tre starts week one, but takes a few weeks to ramp back up. Worst case scenario, Tre misses a few weeks then takes time to get back to form. Either way, Dane Jackson is not ready to start in that scenario. Is that even being debated at this point? I mean Dane Jackson is not ready to be our CB2- Tre will have to be out CB1 when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: Because he was roasted all season long against good QB’s. Mahomes made Levi his b@$&? The last 3 time we played them. We need to beat KC to get to the SB, hence, see ya Levi. I’ve watched the Tyreek Hill TD in the playoffs more than I would like to admit. Wallace is literally lined up to take away any route inside and still gets beat inside on a dig route. I think that was the moment they knew they had to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Twitter says Von golfing with Joe Haden today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I mean Dane Jackson is not ready to be our CB2- Tre will have to be out CB1 when healthy. Not sure why Dane would not be ready to be CB2 he did pretty well in that role last year. He def is not ready to be CB1 and I am not sure if he ever will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So next on my list is Joe Haden or Bradberry Both good options. Would rather send a pick or two sent to the Giants for Bradberry, than spend picks and players to move up in the draft (per recent rumors). The window is open and the Autumn wind is blowing in. It smells like a herd of stampeding Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Not sure why Dane would not be ready to be CB2 he did pretty well in that role last year. He def is not ready to be CB1 and I am not sure if he ever will be. I don't think he is ready to get a CB1 right now but why do you think he can't be? He think did well in every game he played in and he went against some good recievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I don't think he is ready to get a CB1 right now but why do you think he can't be? He think did well in every game he played in and he went against some good recievers. He lacks the speed that I want in CB one. I love him as a run stuffer and he has good instincts. I championed him all last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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