Edit! McKenzie is back on a 2 year deal worth 4.4 million

[njbuff]

Just now, Process said:

You think having the best QB in the league has anything to do with that? Lol.

 

Still need players to catch his darts and this group does it darn well. 

[HOUSE]

This off season is huge

[whorlnut]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

You think having the best QB in the league has anything to do with that? Lol.

To be fair, Diggs is insanely elite, so if you put him in that average category, then you are 100% wrong. Knox has above average to elite potential. Davis has a chance to be pretty good, but we will see. 
 

Beyond that, we are very average at best. the fact that people are so gaga over the McKenzie signing baffles me. He was inactive a lot, was in the doghouse, and struggled with ball security. Singletary is painfully slow and has had a lot of times where he was completely ineffective. 

[Mister Defense]

6 minutes ago, CSBill said:

Meaning Beasley is gone, and McK becomes the full-time slot guy.

 

Maybe, but I think the Bills want Beasley for at least one more year, as he has been a vital part of the Bills resurgence.

[Punching Bag]

48 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Maybe, maybe not. If they can use him how they did in the 2nd Patriots game, he'll absolutely be worth it 

 

Only the GOAT HC would not adjust defense overriding DC when he repeatedly burned defense when opposing offense had several many targets unavailable.  If is playing chess while other teams are playing go.

46 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

I'd imagine there's a good chance that Dorsey had a hand in this. Pretty much everyone thought he was good as gone, and wasn't utilized that often with Daboll. Dorsey must want to recreate the patriots game with him. Hopefully dorsey has a plan on how to use him and make him worth the contract 

 

The 2nd New England game was partial due to poor coaching on their part.

[bigK14094]

2 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

To be fair, Diggs is insanely elite, so if you put him in that average category, then you are 100% wrong. Knox has above average to elite potential. Davis has a chance to be pretty good, but we will see. 
 

Beyond that, we are very average at best. the fact that people are so gaga over the McKenzie signing baffles me. He was inactive a lot, was in the doghouse, and struggled with ball security. Singletary is painfully slow and has had a lot of times where he was completely ineffective. 

After the game he had in NE when Beasley was out, I knew he could be the #1 slot receiver.  No more just a gadget guy and spot starter.  Not sure he does returns though if he is a full time slot receiver.  Maybe Stevenson will make it...jury still out on him imho.

[cwater10]

1 hour ago, recovery96 said:

McKenzie sucks, and now he is overpaid

McKenzie made Steve Belichick look sillier than even Mother Nature did.  That alone is worth the payday.

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Maybe, but I think the Bills want Beasley for at least one more year, as he has been a vital part of the Bills resurgence.

He was a big part of it.  Emphasis on was.  McK took over that role later in the year as the underneath guy.  Beas was still producing but I like the idea of McK in the slot better with his speed.

[whorlnut]

2 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

After the game he had in NE when Beasley was out, I knew he could be the #1 slot receiver.  No more just a gadget guy and spot starter.  Not sure he does returns though if he is a full time slot receiver.  Maybe Stevenson will make it...jury still out on him imho.

You are picking one game in the entire time he’s been here. I’m sorry…the other games count too.  Can’t just look at one game where he looked really good and ignore the ones where he was average at best or completely inactive. 

[Punching Bag]

36 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

McKenzie>>Beasley

 

Incorrect.  It is a venn diagram where their two skills overlap but are not the same.  It is debatable whose circle is bigger.

In McKenzie's circle are things such as jokester and speed cutter and press malcontent.

In Beasley's circle are things such as unique athlete and space finder and locker room malcontent.

 

Beane likely choose what he felt was best going forward with frank and careful discussions with each.

[bigK14094]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

Incorrect.  It is a venn diagram where their two skills overlap but are not the same.  It is debatable whose circle is bigger.

In McKenzie's circle are things such as jokester and speed cutter and press malcontent.

In Beasley's circle are things such as unique athlete and space finder and locker room malcontent.

 

Beane likely choose what he felt was best going forward with frank and careful discussions with each.

Yeh, Beas is a bit of a wild hare........vaccination status and all.  McK listened ultimately.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Maybe, but I think the Bills want Beasley for at least one more year, as he has been a vital part of the Bills resurgence.

 

I think McKenzie wanted a fair shot at becoming a full-time slot WR. 

 

I think the fact that he signed indicates he feels he's in line for that opportunity

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

You are picking one game in the entire time he’s been here. I’m sorry…the other games count too.  Can’t just look at one game where he looked really good and ignore the ones where he was average at best or completely inactive. 

 

McKenzie was inactive for two (2) games.   What's this business of acting as though he were a healthy scratch half the games?

 

McKenzie had 6.8 yds/tgt last year.  While that's not fantabulous, it's also more than the 6.2 yds/tgt that Beasley had. 

 

Beasley averaged 43.3 ypg last year.   McKenzie has something like 8 games where he exceeded that, and also 8 games with 4 or more receptions.  So while he only has one stunning, 11 reception, 125 yd game, true, it's not as though it's the only game where he's shown up and contributed significantly.

 

[Shake_My_Head]

9 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

McKenzie made Steve Belichick look sillier than even Mother Nature did.  That alone is worth the payday.

Love 'Lil Dirty.  But the Pats severe lack of depth at DB in that game (as well as the playoff game) had a LOT to do with that performance.     

 

McKenzie still has a lot to learn about the position, IMO.    McBeane must feel that he's still growing as a WR, so I'll trust their judgement.

[LABILLBACKER]

Fantastic news. Now prepare him to be the FT slot guy. Very happy.

[SCBills]

21 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

To be fair, Diggs is insanely elite, so if you put him in that average category, then you are 100% wrong. Knox has above average to elite potential. Davis has a chance to be pretty good, but we will see. 
 

Beyond that, we are very average at best. the fact that people are so gaga over the McKenzie signing baffles me. He was inactive a lot, was in the doghouse, and struggled with ball security. Singletary is painfully slow and has had a lot of times where he was completely ineffective. 

I like McKenzie as WR4 and am hoping that’s what he’s signed as.  WR4 in a pass heavy offense isn’t the same as, say, WR4 in Baltimore and Cleveland.  
 

If he’s our Day 1 slot, he needs to be better against zone coverage.   I do trust that the FO thinks he can be. 
 

Edited March 14, 2022 by SCBills

[Joe Mama]

This is his contract

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

Love 'Lil Dirty.  But the Pats severe lack of depth at DB in that game (as well as the playoff game) had a LOT to do with that performance.     

 

McKenzie still has a lot to learn about the position, IMO.    McBeane must feel that he's still growing as a WR, so I'll trust their judgement.

 

The point is, the Patriots stunningly failed to adjust to what McKenzie was doing (running away from them in man)

 

No argument that McKenzie has a lot to learn.

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Joe Mama said:

This is his contract

Are those PayDay's or 100 grands?

[Coach Tuesday]

No kidding I could see Beasley in Tampa Bay now.

[bubba2018]

21 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

McKenzie made Steve Belichick look sillier than even Mother Nature did.  That alone is worth the payday.

That was one game out of 17

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, recovery96 said:

That was one game out of 17

He had 26 targets all season.  Can't do much when everyone else is getting playing time over you.

 

And to extrapolate that.

 

Beas had 116 targets for 8.5 per reception.

Mck had 26 targets for 8.9 per reception (this doesn't include what he did in the running game with the soft backward tosses).

[Punching Bag]

5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

No kidding I could see Beasley in Tampa Bay now.

 

With Tampa's "100% vax" status?  😅 🤣 I could see him replacing Teflon Tom's buddy.

[bubba2018]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

He had 26 targets all season.  Can't do much when everyone else is getting playing time over you.

 

And to extrapolate that.

 

Beas had 116 targets for 8.5 per reception.

Mck had 26 targets for 8.9 per reception (this doesn't include what he did in the running game with the soft backward tosses).

I think he is mediocre at best. There is a chance he doesn’t make the roster.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

I do agree with people who say he's unproven as a full time slot and has much to learn, but just looking at this makes me happy.

I have a soft spot for and am pulling for the 'lil guy

 

 

[DCofNC]

At best this is your 3rd WR, most likely 4th or 5th, this signing stops you from doing absolutely nothing.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, recovery96 said:

I think he is mediocre at best. There is a chance he doesn’t make the roster.

.......................

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

.......................

 

Don't bother

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, recovery96 said:

I think he is mediocre at best. There is a chance he doesn’t make the roster.

At this point, he is #3 on the depth chart for WR.  Who is going to take over for him on the team or who is your big FA target that is going to compete with Diggs and Davis to move one of them into the slot?

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Don't bother

I will.  It's fun to be dumb sometimes.

Edited March 14, 2022 by The Wiz

[LyndonvilleBill]

59 minutes ago, Process said:

That is not top of the line weaponry. Once you get to the playoffs that group of skill players is very average. 

 

I love the signing but people need to stop overrating our skill position players. 

 

Still need another playmaker on offense badly, this should not stop us from taking a WR in the first two rounds. 

I believe Diggs is a true #1 receiver. I think Davis is a very good #2 (great #3) and McKenzie is perfect for the slot/gadget role. Knox is a #1 TE and Motor is OK.

 

I am one of the Biggest McKenzie fans on the board, but I am far from delusional or even overrating our Skill position players. As to his role or Davis', they have their place and we have a good mix of different skill sets. We need a Bigger receiver added to the mix to round out the WR group.

 

I agree with getting another WR via the draft and I think it will be in rnd 2, but I believe it will be a bigger bodied OUTSIDE receiver. I also believe that the RB group will also be improved via the draft.

 

People that want us to sign Kirk, CMC, Gronk and the like are the ones that should probably stop Underating our players.

 

We have a VERY good team that only needs a couple of small pieces to get to where we want to be. We don't need major changes.

 

And Yes. The McKenzie signing is AWESOME!!!😁

[artmalibu]

Well he have special teams value too. 😂

 

I though the should have used him on O  more last year, with cole and sanders gone he will...

[CircleTheWagons99]

2 hours ago, 17islongenough said:

I wonder if Daboll didn't like using him on offense and that was the riff with Beane

Was thinking the same thing. 

[buffblue]

4 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I believe Diggs is a true #1 receiver. I think Davis is a very good #2 (great #3) and McKenzie is perfect for the slot/gadget role. Knox is a #1 TE and Motor is OK.

 

I am one of the Biggest McKenzie fans on the board, but I am far from delusional or even overrating our Skill position players. As to his role or Davis', they have their place and we have a good mix of different skill sets. We need a Bigger receiver added to the mix to round out the WR group.

 

I agree with getting another WR via the draft and I think it will be in rnd 2, but I believe it will be a bigger bodied OUTSIDE receiver. I also believe that the RB group will also be improved via the draft.

 

People that want us to sign Kirk, CMC, Gronk and the like are the ones that should probably stop Underating our players.

 

We have a VERY good team that only needs a couple of small pieces to get to where we want to be. We don't need major changes.

 

And Yes. The McKenzie signing is AWESOME!!!😁

We definitely need more and better at WR, but at the same time I am very happy Isaiah is back. He has been grossly underutilized

[LABILLBACKER]

16 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

He had 26 targets all season.  Can't do much when everyone else is getting playing time over you.

 

And to extrapolate that.

 

Beas had 116 targets for 8.5 per reception.

Mck had 26 targets for 8.9 per reception (this doesn't include what he did in the running game with the soft backward tosses).

Isaiah McKenzie has only been given 2 games during his 3 year time in Buffalo where he was targeted 6+ times as a featured WR.  In those 2 games (Mia 20, NE 21) he had 17 catches for 190 yards and 3 tds. Isaiah is younger, faster and cheaper than Beasley.  Time to move forward with Lil Dirty.

[Turbo44]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Isaiah McKenzie has only been given 2 games during his 3 year time in Buffalo where he was targeted 6+ times as a featured WR.  In those 2 games (Mia 20, NE 21) he had 17 catches for 190 yards and 3 tds. Isaiah is younger, faster and cheaper than Beasley.  Time to move forward with Lil Dirty.

And in the MIA game he also returned a punt from our current punter for a TD

[ngbills]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Isaiah McKenzie has only been given 2 games during his 3 year time in Buffalo where he was targeted 6+ times as a featured WR.  In those 2 games (Mia 20, NE 21) he had 17 catches for 190 yards and 3 tds. Isaiah is younger, faster and cheaper than Beasley.  Time to move forward with Lil Dirty.

Beas can excel vs the zone. Mck has not shown that yet. That is likely why he gets less snaps. What d are most teams in vs us? Let’s see what happens but I don’t think mck has been getting screwed it is more likely his size and abilities limit what him zone coverage. 

[Doc Brown]

Wait, that little sob is coming back.....

 

[Mark92]

3 hours ago, WMDman said:

LETS GOOO

 

I wonder if this means Cole is definitely gone?

I would say yes.

[TheBeaneBandit]

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I do agree with people who say he's unproven as a full time slot and has much to learn, but just looking at this makes me happy.

I have a soft spot for and am pulling for the 'lil guy

 

 

I think this is his time to carve his nitch. I always thought his time on offense should have been x2. This should be his time. BPA could still be WR at 25 though...

[BarleyNY]

I’m surprised by this.  He’s a nice dude and I hope he lights it up for us.