dollars 2 donuts Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Warcodered said: If that's the reason they made a splash move that'd be so dumb, fans would care more about the team remaining good than a splashy move at the time you're announcing the stadium deal. The fans are going to feel the costs of the deal down the road the team still needs to be good then. Agree, War. A blanket statement assuming that we are just as stupid as the average NFL fans. We are not geniuses by any stretch, but we are smart enough to understand the long term stability of the franchise, and our front office is also not that stupid. Does someone need proof of this with respect to our front office not being short sighted? Josh Rosen is not the starting QB for this team. Edited March 7, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: of course it’s a rumor. Everyone got that. You missed what the rumor is: splashy signing as a distraction for the fans for the cost of the stadium. and….if true, it’s sad and cynical they would think that lowly of the fans’ intelligence. Keep up "If true." Yeah, keep...believing what you want. But again, if it gets a player that can help the Bills, great. The idea is to win games, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Who has ESPN+ and can find the rumor Thad is referring to? Looks like there's some coverage of it here: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/nfl-rumors-dont-rule-out-big-splash-move-for-buffalo-bills-says-nfl-insider.html That's such lazy, poor journalism. One member of the press speculates something, and gets cited as a source "reporting" it elsewhere Quote Despite what appears to be a lack of cap space, one NFL insider believes Buffalo could make one notable move this offseason. ESPN NFL insider Dan Graziano reported on Sunday that the Bills could make a “big-splash move” in the next few weeks. “The Bills have been knocking on the Super Bowl door the past couple of years, but don’t rule out a big-splash move aimed at getting them over that hump and making sure Bills fans’ excitement remains at a froth,” said Graziano. The speculation is Gronkowski Quote One name that could fit the “splash” criteria is tight end Rob Gronkowski. Tim Graham of The Athletic recently reported that Buffalo was interested in adding the future Hall of Fame tight end to their offense. Buffalo reportedly had interest in adding Gronkowski last year as well, but the tight end returned to Tampa Bay to play alongside Tom Brady. And again, the "source" is a speculating reporter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Looks like there's some coverage of it here: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/nfl-rumors-dont-rule-out-big-splash-move-for-buffalo-bills-says-nfl-insider.html That's such lazy, poor journalism. One member of the press speculates something, and gets cited as a source "reporting" it elsewhere The speculation is Gronkowski And again, the "source" is a speculating reporter. The state of journalism these days is a joke. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: Maybe a change is needed? Get a stud defensive full-time player instead of multiple wave players. So you don’t think it’s bad for an owner to interfere with the GMs plan and tells him to do something different? It’s all bad…. If this happens to be true. But I don’t believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Looks like there's some coverage of it here: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/nfl-rumors-dont-rule-out-big-splash-move-for-buffalo-bills-says-nfl-insider.html That's such lazy, poor journalism. One member of the press speculates something, and gets cited as a source "reporting" it elsewhere The speculation is Gronkowski And again, the "source" is a speculating reporter. The idea that the FO hasn't made moves before is wrong. Diggs was huge. They tried for JJ and Ertz last year. But they have figures in mind. The hope is that they can get one of the bigger names at market value or below - to get a good deal on a position of need. Getting Gronk or C Jones could easily fit that profile. And those aren't adding players for just Splash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: of course it’s a rumor. Everyone got that. You missed what the rumor is: splashy signing as a distraction for the fans for the cost of the stadium. and….if true, it’s sad and cynical they would think that lowly of the fans’ intelligence. Keep up I wasn’t even alluding to that aspect being sad, but this is also pretty ridiculous. Just seems like smokescreens and mirrors are embedded in every aspect of life nowadays. I’d just be more upset about an owner telling the GM how to GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, Doc said: The state of journalism these days is a joke. Apparently, it's how the market is driven. Give me Perry White anyday, to pick up these modern 'journalists', and throw them out his office window. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 hours ago, CountDorkula said: I wouldn't put this past them, they are very out of touch with nearly everything they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, NewEra said: So you don’t think it’s bad for an owner to interfere with the GMs plan and tells him to do something different? It’s all bad…. If this happens to be true. But I don’t believe it The GM's job is to get good players. It's not interfering so much is it's "get the best player you want." And it's not like the Bills haven't tried to make "splash" moves in the past, most notably going after JJ Watt last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Doc said: The GM's job is to get good players. It's not interfering so much is it's "get the best player you want." And it's not like the Bills haven't tried to make "splash" moves in the past, most notably going after JJ Watt last year. I get what your saying and if that’s all that was said, I agree, no big deal from that standpoint. We don’t know for sure what Beanes plan is at this point. We can guesstimate that making a splashy move is on the agenda IF the price is right. What if the price of the guys he’s targeting isn’t right? If at that point, he is still being told to make a splashy move, it’s a big problem. How much pressure will be on Beane to make a splashy move if the price for the targets he covets most is too high? The owner should write the checks and let the GM do his job. Additional pressure to “appease the fans” is nonsense, especially if it’s just to distract them from paying for the stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I get what your saying and if that’s all that was said, I agree, no big deal from that standpoint. We don’t know for sure what Beanes plan is at this point. We can guesstimate that making a splashy move is on the agenda IF the price is right. What if the price of the guys he’s targeting isn’t right? If at that point, he is still being told to make a splashy move, it’s a big problem. How much pressure will be on Beane to make a splashy move if the price for the targets he covets most is too high? The owner should write the checks and let the GM do his job. Additional pressure to “appease the fans” is nonsense, especially if it’s just to distract them from paying for the stadium. Up to this point we haven’t really had to worry too much about undue owner micro interference with this FO, let’s hope that trend continues. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: "If true." Yeah, keep...believing what you want. But again, if it gets a player that can help the Bills, great. The idea is to win games, right? yes, if true. That was said multiple times. I know you're pretending to miss the point. If it's a good idea to bring in a "splash" FA, then do it because it will help the team, not as a distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Laken Tomlinson is what I would consider a sexy splash move in my mind. Keep building that oline and Josh will be able to pick apart defenses regardless of who his receivers are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 who knew all these rumors about FAs would be coming out now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Looks like there's some coverage of it here: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/nfl-rumors-dont-rule-out-big-splash-move-for-buffalo-bills-says-nfl-insider.html That's such lazy, poor journalism. One member of the press speculates something, and gets cited as a source "reporting" it elsewhere The speculation is Gronkowski And again, the "source" is a speculating reporter. It's odd that you think Tim Graham made that "Gronk interest" story up because he didn't cite his source.............when you have at the same time noted elsewhere that agents and team personnel can't discuss other teams players in this time period. Agents are floating out stories they want heard.........the media are going to run with that. Way too much hand-wringing about the quality of journalism at a time of year when we know that agents and teams are already negotiating contracts behind the scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Laken Tomlinson is what I would consider a sexy splash move in my mind. Keep building that oline and Josh will be able to pick apart defenses regardless of who his receivers are. I agree that OL is priority #1 IMO and Beane has said as much............but Gronk would be a much higher profile deal with Bills fans and he is an extension of the OL and overall protection as well. I like Tomlinson........but from a distance I don't see a fit............he will be looking to make his first big score in UFA and he has already been part of a SB contending team. I actually see Scherff as a better match..........he has already made a ton of money playing for bad teams..........maybe he looks at a 5 year deal with Buffalo at a $2M-$3M aav discount as a way to win SB's while playing in a football rabid town with a very stable organization that has great facilities and a track record for keeping players healthy. Cinci is often cited as his destination but they don't quite check all of those same boxes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 If a true 'big splash' type of move is coming, we will know pretty quick with FA on the horizon just over a week away. And still think the time is now to swing for the fences to land a premier pass rusher if we are ever going to get over the hump and beat Mahomes and KC when it really matters. And speaking of KC, rumors keep circulating that they are primed for a big offseason with pending moves to free up lots of cap space coming. So by default we are almost forced to make our own big moves to keep pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: And speaking of KC, rumors keep circulating that they are primed for a big offseason with pending moves to free up lots of cap space coming. So by default we are almost forced to make our own big moves to keep pace. Hope the Bills aren’t listening to “rumours “ about what another team is supposedly doing… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: I get what your saying and if that’s all that was said, I agree, no big deal from that standpoint. We don’t know for sure what Beanes plan is at this point. We can guesstimate that making a splashy move is on the agenda IF the price is right. What if the price of the guys he’s targeting isn’t right? If at that point, he is still being told to make a splashy move, it’s a big problem. How much pressure will be on Beane to make a splashy move if the price for the targets he covets most is too high? The owner should write the checks and let the GM do his job. Additional pressure to “appease the fans” is nonsense, especially if it’s just to distract them from paying for the stadium. Beane's under no pressure. He, along with McD, built the team up to be SB contenders thanks to drafting an incredible QB. If the price is too high, he'll simply tell Terry the reality of the situation, probably like he did last year with Watt. There might be other factors, again like there were with Watt. But this is something to revisit if and only if the Bills sign a star FA and appear to sorely overpay, which I seriously doubt happens. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: yes, if true. That was said multiple times. I know you're pretending to miss the point. If it's a good idea to bring in a "splash" FA, then do it because it will help the team, not as a distraction. I'm not pretending to miss the point. I'm saying the point is suspect. If you want to believe it/that that's the only reason they'd add a premier FA, knock yourself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 hours ago, Steptide said: Only really big splash that would shock me is davante Adams. No way bills can afford him though I think bringing in a high profile pass rusher would be considered a splach We would have to make some moves though to free up cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Sounds like T.O. is once again going to put his key to the city to good use! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 Hmmm Quote Some quick-hitters to get to this week. And because we’re closing in fast on the start of the league year, we’ve got a few interesting ones for you. • The Bills—of Buffalo—are becoming a bit of a destination for veteran free agents. I’m told at least one big-name veteran reached out to the Bills (it’s usually the other way around) to show his interest in them and set up a meeting for his agent at the combine last week. So if the finances work out, it wouldn’t surprise me to see someone like that signed by the Bills. https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/07/mmqb-aidan-hutchinson-michigan-top-prospect Already released big name players …? Amari Cooper and Zadarius Smith haven’t been released yet I don’t think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: Beane's under no pressure. He, along with McD, built the team up to be SB contenders thanks to drafting an incredible QB. If the price is too high, he'll simply tell Terry the reality of the situation, probably like he did last year with Watt. There might be other factors, again like there were with Watt. But this is something to revisit if and only if the Bills sign a star FA and appear to sorely overpay, which I seriously doubt happens. I'm not pretending to miss the point. I'm saying the point is suspect. If you want to believe it/that that's the only reason they'd add a premier FA, knock yourself out. Do you know that Pegula told Beane to make a splashy move last season? If not, you can’t compare the situations of watt last season and this situation (if Pegula did in fact tell him to make a splashy move to appease the fans). I think that Beane will make a splashy move if the price is right, regardless of what season it is. The part I don’t like….is the owner telling him to do so…..in order to appease the fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I saw some speculation on Twitter that the "big name free agent" supposedly reaching out to Buffalo to set up a meeting is a pass catcher. That makes sense to me. Someone who is sick of catching passes from scrubs, who sees Josh Allen is a surefire way to revitalize their career and re-up their value. Perhaps an Allen Robinson type? Edited March 7, 2022 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you know that Pegula told Beane to make a splashy move last season? If not, you can’t compare the situations of watt last season and this situation (if Pegula did in fact tell him to make a splashy move to appease the fans). I think that Beane will make a splashy move if the price is right, regardless of what season it is. The part I don’t like….is the owner telling him to do so…..in order to appease the fans That would be the part I also would not like, assuming this is true. But it would certainly make a lot of sense from a business perspective. There is a new stadium deal is being finalized and the team recently fell short of their very high expectations. 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I saw some speculation on Twitter that the "big name free agent" supposedly reaching out to Buffalo to set up a meeting is a pass catcher. That makes sense to me. Someone who is sick of catching passes from scrubs, who sees Josh Allen is a surefire way to revitalize their career and re-up their value. Perhaps an Allen Robinson type? Gronk? He fits pass catcher and is someone who would reach out to the Bills. Also he’d be a big deal with the media. Not quite a “big splash move” as I’d normally think of one though. Edited March 7, 2022 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Logic said: I saw some speculation on Twitter that the "big name free agent" supposedly reaching out to Buffalo to set up a meeting is a pass catcher. That makes sense to me. Someone who is sick of catching passes from scrubs, who sees Josh Allen is a surefire way to revitalize their career and re-up their value. Perhaps an Allen Robinson type? Christian Kirk? He may not be released yet, but has that ever really stopped anyone from talking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Logic said: I saw some speculation on Twitter that the "big name free agent" supposedly reaching out to Buffalo to set up a meeting is a pass catcher. That makes sense to me. Someone who is sick of catching passes from scrubs, who sees Josh Allen is a surefire way to revitalize their career and re-up their value. Perhaps an Allen Robinson type? In order to set up a meeting at the combine it would need to be someone already cut, right? Or is tampering just not even a thing anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: If a true 'big splash' type of move is coming, we will know pretty quick with FA on the horizon just over a week away. And still think the time is now to swing for the fences to land a premier pass rusher if we are ever going to get over the hump and beat Mahomes and KC when it really matters. And speaking of KC, rumors keep circulating that they are primed for a big offseason with pending moves to free up lots of cap space coming. So by default we are almost forced to make our own big moves to keep pace. KC has a large number of UFAs so they are already going to need to either resign or replace them so I would imagine they have to have a big offseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: KC has a large number of UFAs so they are already going to need to either resign or replace them so I would imagine they have to have a big offseason The only big impending loss they may have is Matheiu who has indicated he's looking for a one last huge deal which the Chiefs aren't going to offer. Will hurt their secondary but it's not like it was a dominant unit to begin with. They are going to have a bunch of space after releasing Frank Clark and extending Hill. The consensus opinion in the KC media circle is that they are going to also swing big for a pass rusher this offeason, in addition to bringing in another WR weapon for Mahomes. So combine that with the great young core they already have and the best draft class of 2021 this team isn't going anywhere anytime soon hence the pressure for Beane to make equally significant moves in this chess game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) It's amazing how the NFL always finds a way to stay interesting, even when there's no games on Edited March 8, 2022 by Steptide 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Mango said: Bills get the Ramsey and Donald. Our new home will be “Los Angeles Field at St Louis Rams Stadium” League doesn’t have to pay back the city of STL. Source: Kim Pegula’s MS Paint presentation on MySpace. Something, something. Ground up and in the freezer. Of all things, why you gotta take a shot at MS paint? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Gronk? He fits pass catcher and is someone who would reach out to the Bills. Also he’d be a big deal with the media. Not quite a “big splash move” as I’d normally think of one though. Not a big splash to someone who is into the NFL enough to spend a lot of time on message boards and know who most NFL starters are............but I tailgate with tons of people who are only about the Bills.........and that is a good representation of most season ticket holders and Bills fans in general, IMO...........and Gronk is a top 10-20 name in the league to them. It would be a huge splash to the general Bills public. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you know that Pegula told Beane to make a splashy move last season? If not, you can’t compare the situations of watt last season and this situation (if Pegula did in fact tell him to make a splashy move to appease the fans). I think that Beane will make a splashy move if the price is right, regardless of what season it is. The part I don’t like….is the owner telling him to do so…..in order to appease the fans No I don't, but Beane pursued Watt and there was no stadium deal then. 3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: The only big impending loss they may have is Matheiu who has indicated he's looking for a one last huge deal which the Chiefs aren't going to offer. Will hurt their secondary but it's not like it was a dominant unit to begin with. They are going to have a bunch of space after releasing Frank Clark and extending Hill. The consensus opinion in the KC media circle is that they are going to also swing big for a pass rusher this offeason, in addition to bringing in another WR weapon for Mahomes. So combine that with the great young core they already have and the best draft class of 2021 this team isn't going anywhere anytime soon hence the pressure for Beane to make equally significant moves in this chess game. Orlando Brown Jr. is an impending FA and scheduled to make $20M/year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, Doc said: No I don't, but Beane pursued Watt and there was no stadium deal then. Orlando Brown Jr. is an impending FA and scheduled to make $20M/year. He was just franchised so thy have him at least this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, Doc said: No I don't, but Beane pursued Watt and there was no stadium deal then. Orlando Brown Jr. is an impending FA and scheduled to make $20M/year. Yeah…..which is why last this and this year are different and not really situations to compare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: He was just franchised so thy have him at least this year.... Not if he refuses to sign it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Not a big splash to someone who is into the NFL enough to spend a lot of time on message boards and know who most NFL starters are............but I tailgate with tons of people who are only about the Bills.........and that is a good representation of most season ticket holders and Bills fans in general, IMO...........and Gronk is a top 10-20 name in the league to them. It would be a huge splash to the general Bills public. Gronk would excite me as a fan. Allen Robinson or Christian Kirk? I would reach Quinn Early levels of excitement zzzzzzzz, draft a WR high instead. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not if he refuses to sign it True but doubtful that will happen and Veach said this gives them flexibility to hammer out a long term deal. But getting back to the point, the Bills obviously cant stand pat and trot out the 'run it back' or 'build through the draft' message this year. If anything the veterans on this team aren't going to accept it given how close they are to taking that next step. Everyone behind the four walls at One Bills Drives knows the time is now to make a serious move or two in the offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hmmm https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/07/mmqb-aidan-hutchinson-michigan-top-prospect Already released big name players …? Amari Cooper and Zadarius Smith haven’t been released yet I don’t think Hmmm, already been released o mayber is going to be released soon. I can't think of a "big name" off top of my head at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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