Astro’s Pick 6 for March

[Cantankeous]

Our favorite -and extremely accurate- Draft picker

Dean Kindig ‘ASTRO’ released his early mock. 
Very insightful! 

 

Link to his article
 

Graph by Dean Kindig.

Here’s a “Pick Six” to get you ready for Combine Week. 
 

ROUND 1: Jordan Davis, the behemoth-but-quick nose tackle for Georgia, just might be within range when the Bills ready themselves to make their #25 pick. He’s currently #19 on DraftTek’s Big Board, and here’s a list of teams that have NT as a high priority per their DraftTek team pages: Bills and Raiders. Las Vegas drafts at #22; we draft at #25, so the trade chart shows that Beane could leapfrog Vegas for the cost of a RD3. but I bet Big Baller sits tight. The Raiders need more than NT (WR, CB, DL3T), and a wideout or corner is more likely to tantalize them (and us). The Bills jet made a post-playoffs flight to A&M, and DeMarvin Leal(6’4″ 290 4.78) is the top draftable on the Aggies. Leal would be the final piece of a quartet of young, pressuring edge rushers for the post-Jerry Hughes-Mario Addison era. Jahan Dotson (5’11” 180 4.35) hails from Terry Pegula’s PSU alma mater, where the Bills visited three times this year. Dotson has played in 30 career games, making 26 starts. He’s caught a pass in 29 straight games, dating back to 10/20/18. The John-Brown-sized waterbug has 26 career receptions of 20 or more yards, and has posted five career touchdown catches of 60 or more yards. Push the envelope downfield with Dotson, and your intermediate passing game –and run game–pick up. Roger McCreary (6’0″ 190 4.34) and Trent McDuffie(5’11” 195 4.38) ought to be available at #25. I like them both, but see McCreary as the higher-floor corner. He’s played in a 4-2-5, is longer and faster than McDuffie, and McCreary interviews better. While it isn’t a stretch to see him playing Week 1, McDuffie played in a Multiple 2-4-5 and offers some punt-return work (18.7 average).  Kyler Gordon (6’0″ 200 4.3), McDuffie’s sidekick on the Huskies, is likely gone by the Bills’ pick. Last year, Gordon made 52 tackles, 2 TFL, 5 PBUs, 1 forced fumble, 1 fumble recovery, 1 kickoff return, and covered kickoffs like a blanket as Special Teams MVP of the Huskies. Like McCreary, Gordon’s taller and faster than McDuffie, has fewer dings, and has a better personality.

 

ROUND 2:  Nicholas Petit-Frere‘s Buckeyes garnered 2 Beane visits and 5 scouted games, and Petit-Frere (Deep Dive here) is 3rd on the list of OSU draftables after WRs Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. NP-F is impressive and well-spoken; you get the idea he and Dion would get on super-well. He gained 50 pounds of good weight over the 2018-2020 season, and is now 6′ 5″, 315 lbs, per ESPN, but watch out: He’s one of 4 offensive linemen to be selected to the Denny’s All-Pancaker Team, allegedly paid in the form of all-you-can-eat pancakes. Three speed-demon WRs, Wan’Dale Robinson (5’11” 185 4.35), Jalen Tolbert (6’3″ 190 4.3), and Devon Williams (6’5″ 205 4.38), ought to go in this round, and all could stretch the field like Dotson. Tolbert doesn’t offer return experience, but is the fastest. Williams is tall and solid, and the YAC monster will remind some of 2020 RD2 pick Laviska Shenault –and Beane went to one of Tolbert’s games, and sent scouts to the other two. Wan’Dale would fulfill the McKenzie role with jiggle and juke, plus would be a return man [Watch Wan’Dale’s impressive touchdown here, shown from 3 angles]. If the Bills didn’t get Jordan Davis in RD1, Phidarian “Phil” Mathis would be a nice “fill” option here. DraftDive: “[Mathis] is carving out a role as an interior pass rusher. His ability to change direction and attack from different spots and even stunt is paying dividends.” Mathis’s hand punch is elite. EDGE Sam Williams got both Beane and Hickey at the Ole Miss game, and he obliged with 4 tackles and a sack against the likes of Neal (LT) and Ekiyor (RT) . 

 

ROUND 3: The WR is so deep that you still have speedy Smurf Velus Jones Jr. (6’0″ 200 4.32) and Tre Turner (6’2″ 187 4.36) possibly ripe for the plucking here. You take Velus if you want to avail yourself of 2,973 yards of kick returns over his career. His 59 games played is the most of all the WRs in the draft. You take Tre Turner for his WR#1 upside. No surprise that his school drew Beane plus a whopping FIVE scout visits, compared to Velus Jones’ one scout. Watch Turner’s jet sweep, his fight at the catch point, and his sophisticated body and eye movement on outside shoulder catches. I’d worry about Diggs-Davis-Turner if I were a DC. Coastal Carolina’s Isaiah Likely posted 5 receptions, 40 yards when they crushed Kansas in September, then 3 receptions for 21 when they beat South Alabama. At one point, Likely was getting RD2 hype, but he’s settling in at RD3. The “non-Nakobe Dean” Georgia LBs, Quay Walker (6’3″ 240 4.64) and Channing Tindall(6’2″ 230 4.4), offer skillsets markedly different from Nakobe’s incredible sideline-to-sideline speed. Walker’s a good-sized team player with self-awareness and production. Tindall caught fire in the Tennessee game, .with a career-best eight tackles, including three QB sacks for a combined -28 yards, and forced a fumble on fourth down. He was named the Walter Camp FBS National Defensive Player of the Week for his effort. Beane has a nice edge rusher in every round, and EDGE Zachary Carter (6’4″ 268 4.86) had a monster game vs FAU as he recorded four tackles, three tackles for loss, three sacks and a forced fumble. Carter was named SEC Co-Defensive Lineman of the Week after his terrific performance. The Bills scouted Carter’s very next game. He had 1 tackle, 1 assist, 1 sack. 

ROUND 4:  Jayden Peevy (6’6″ 315 5.13) is getting some DT3T-DT1T-EDGE buzz. My notes: “Has great length. Check his arms. Mr. Dependable award this year, has INT, fumble recovery, etc. so not just a gap plugger type. Jet visit to A&M postseason.” Listen to his interview. It shows savvy, confidence, and tongue-in-cheek humor that’s sure to win over the locker room. More of a DT1T-DT3T, Neil Farrell (6’4″ 328 5) has more pressures per game than Peevy, and stepped up big-time when Glen Logan was injured. Shane Coughlin: “very ball-aware….sorts first-level traffic with power and aggression.” If the Bills wait to select their IDL in the RD3-RD4 area, all is not lost with these guys. Likewise, Jaylen Watson is still a very nice option at CB. His length (6′ 3″, 204), 4.4 speed, strength, attitude, versatility, and tackling chops fit in quite well with the Bills’ scheme. Should the Bills surprise us and not bring in a Guard via Free Agency, Marquis Hayes (6’5″ 318 5.3) shows impressive size (although he’s down to a trim 318 from 336). He played LG next to Bills draft crush Creed Humphrey. Watch his arm use. He’s inconsistent on the pull. Here he’s too slow, and while this is better –he just needs to stay on it. This rep shows he can do it. Tyreke Smith is the EDGE to consider in this round. He’s just so details-focused, so better coaching will help. Injury drops him, but attitude elevates him. Jerome Ford(5’10” 215 4.46) killed it in front of Bills scouts: 20 carries for 189 yds (9.45 ypc), and 4 TD vs UCF. Ford moves well for 220 lbs. He shows nice patience here, especially in draws up the gut. Ford demonstrates his contact balance and power here, much like Zach Moss (5-9, 223, 4.56) did. Ford has speed, too, and uses his blockers well. Does Ford offer significantly more than Moss? Only the upfront blocking will help decide.

Photo of Maryland SS Nick Cross from baltimoresun.com.

 

ROUND 5: Strong Safety Nick Cross is the top player in this draft from Maryland and the only one in my top 300, so it’s significant that Bills scouts saw 3 Maryland games this year after zero the year before. Cross has been termed “the ultimate glue guy” on a Terrapins team that wasn’t great. It’ll be his never-say-die, we’re-in-this-together personalitythat will win over Beane. Cornerback Deane Leonard is engaging, too, and Beane-Hickey attended his game. If the Bills bring in a vet cornerback via Free Agency, Deane Leonard’s selection as understudy would not surprise me one bit. Tulsa Guard Chris Paul (6’4″ 331 5.24) had some injuries, but those are behind him as he’s been invited to the Combine to strut his stuff. Aaron Hansford (6’3″ 240 4.53) is one of the most impressive LBs I’ve seen that is not named Nakobe. He’s bottom right in this interview. He’s even more impressive on the field, here as a blitzer and here with his wrap-up tackling (just turn the sound down). To make the choice even harder for you, Arizona State’s D.J. Davidson was a force at 1-tech in the scouted game (and occasionally on the outside; watch #98!) with 6 tackles (2 for loss) on the day. Davidson was named the PAC-12 Defensive Lineman of the Week for his performance.  Jashaun Corbin, FSU’s bellcow (5’11” 220 4.42) RB has one of the highest Yards After Contact per Rush (6.83 YPC/AC). He’s excellent catching the ball out of the backfield, too. Corbin averaged an obscene 9.6 ypc against AP-ranked teams this year–a number he matched in the scouted game: 15 carries, 144 yds, and a TD on this play. Not on the list, but Ty Chandler of UNC (5’11” 205 4.32) is going to be a very good change-of-pace back, too. He’s Matt Breida, so just re-up Breida.

 

ROUND 6a : Five offensive players and a LB fill the earlier of two RD6 picks. USC RB Keaontay Ingram (6’0″ 216 4.38) might make it easier for you to pass on Corbin and Chandler. Along with Master Teague III (5’11” 220 4.35), Keaontay is the only 215+ pound back who’ll have a shot at a sub-4.4 forty. Formerly with the Texas Longhorns, Ingram has the right Bills-y attitude about practice. Jeremiah Gemmel is a run-stopping, high motor, solid-tackling ILB with 135 solo stops. He’s captain, and thrice-scouted North Carolina is Beane’s alma mater. Gemmel’s Missed Tackle Rate was 3rd-best in the country, and his snaps were higher than the other two. He’ll go to a team thatschemes its LBs to run free to the ball. Know of any? Britain Covey is another Smurf (5’8″ 172 4.34) who’s your KR, too. His 12.3 ypc against AP-ranked teams and his 1092 career KR yards make him a versatile weapon. I like how he turns north instantly here. Covey’s drag-route finesse can make him a red-zone terror for a team with accurate QBs. On Day Three, watch for versatile OL guys like C Nick Ford of Utah, who has played all five spots on the Utes’ O-Line. His personality and his backstory are worth the examination. Athleticism on O-Line is still available here at #184, with SMU’s Jaylon Thomas, the Tackle-eligible on this screen for a 2-point conversion. Jaylon was Athlon Sports’ First-Team All-AAC selection (Beane’s 3rd-favorite conference thus far), but he also lettered in basketball in HS –hence the tackle-eligible play. His alma mater, SMU, was ninth nationally in 2020 in first downs (251), 14th in passing (318.0), and 14th in red-zone offense (.920). You may also see a TE at this point. TE Grant Calcaterra retired after the 2019 season due to concussions, but announced he would return to the sport in after the 2020 season. Calcaterra impressed in the scouted game: 7 catches, 91 yards and a TD grab. WR Reggie Roberson (“robber-son”, not listed) might also be here to keep the chains moving and deepen up your passing game.

 

ROUND 6b: EDGE Jeffrey Gunter from Coastal Carolina (6’4″ 260 4.68) was scouted twice. He’s one of my favorite players in this draft. He’s totally a fit with the position room, a guy who you can joke around with off the field, but one who totally has your back on the field. His 55.5 pressures in 47 games is in the Rousseau-Basham stratosphere. I’d take him earlier, but he dropped to this round. Looking for a SS fit here? Another of my faves, Quentin Lake (6’1″ 205 4.46) is your DNA guy. The son of Carnell Lake has the 5th-highest solo tackles per game among safeties, and the Bills scouted all five. See if he sounds like a Bill to you. Steelers will be all over him; his Dad retired as their DB coach in 2018. Another chess piece who’ll be rising up draft boards is DL1T Marquan McCall. He’s a gap-plugger (6’2″ 379 5.5) who reminds me a little of Tyler Shelvin. McCall commands double teams (impossible with EdO next to you) and allow your LBs to roam free. Watch 2-3 plays. Texas A&M plays a 4-2-5, and EDGE Tyree Johnson is another defensive player on the loaded Aggies defense with Peevy, Leal, Clemons, and Hansford all worth looking at. It’s Johnson, not Leal, who leads the team in sacks with eight over a four-game stretch, including two each against Alabama, South Carolina, and Auburn. Tremendous value here. Sean Mahone is the other Safety worth checking out. In the two scouted WVU games, Mahone had 18 solo tackles total. His fundamentals need work (Deked bad here, and not a tackle here), but he gets the job done (2.9 solo tackles per game in his career). My sixth option isn’t a player at all. Use this pick and Pick 7A as part of a package to move up and get a player you want.

 

ROUND 7a and 7b: Wake Forest, the home of Boogie Basham, is where OLB Luke Mastersonwreaked his brand of havoc. This is your OLB. Captain. Mild-mannered and articulate off the field, quick closer on the field. He’s an excellent tackler (145 career solos averaging 3.37 per game). I like how Masterson waits for the declaration then lowers the boom. Watch this TFL from two angles: TFL, and 2nd view. Watch this little juke to fool the Guard! Wake Forest was 1st in their ACC division with a 7-1 record this year. Let’s say you took a free agent WR, and you still want a pass-catcher toy with versatility and/or upside. Trevon Clark, Mike Harley, Nykeim Johnson, and Kevin Austin Jr.are all worth either drafting or bringing in as a Priority Free Agent (I like unscouted Jalen Virgil of App State here, too). Clark only made 1 catch against AP-ranked teams, so he’s green, but you can’t teach his size-speed ratio (6’4″ 195 4.37). Harley, a Hula Bowl invite, is your late-round chip-on-the-shoulder ACC Smurf (5’10” 180 4.32) who’s pumped up: 365-pound bench press, 425-lb squat, and a 37-inch vertical. Nykeim Johnson (5’8″ 170 4.38) was scouted when he played for Syracuse. He ranked second in the ACC in KR average (23.2 yards per return), and his punt-return average was 14.1. Kevin Austin Jr. (6’2″ 215 4.32) led the independents in receiving yards with 888, and reminds me of a faster Robert Woods. Four game-scouted experienced safeties should be on Beane’s shortlist: Baylor’s speedy J.T. Woods (6’2″ 193 4.38, 46-game career), Iowa’s football savantDane Belton (6’1″ 205 4.46, 30 GP), Stanford’s gritty, determined Kendall Williamson (6’1″ 205 4.5, 34 GP), and Michigan’s special teams ace Brad Hawkins (6’1″ 218 4.46, 42 GP). Against Nebraska, Hawkins had five tackles (four solo), a forced fumble ( less than five minutes remaining in the fourth quarter) and a fumble recovery in Michigan’s 32-29 win. Additionally, the Bills saw Will Adams (6’1″ 186 4.57) at the HBCU Combine and the position-versatile tackling machine Sterling Weatherford (6’3″ 221 4.58). Two QBs, maybe more, could be on Beane’s list. Four Day 3 quarterbacks that would surprise me the least would be once-scouted Iowa State’s Brock Purdy (66.4% vs AP-ranked teams is top 5 in the draft), Cal’s Chase Garbers (also scouted once), and two I listed here: Maryland’s Josh Jackson (scouted 3 games), and Aqeel Glass of Alabama A&M, scouted at the HBCU Combine. Glass (6’4″ 233 4.84) threw for 36 TD, 7 INT in 2021, good enough to win the SWAC. He posted 5 games with 400 pass yds, and Glass’s 109 passing touchdowns is 11th all time in the FCS (109). He threw a TD at the NFLPA game.  Hogmollies should also be considered here. I suggest DT1T-DT3T-EDGE Jordan Williams, a Clemson grad transfer, and OC LG RT Brock Hoffman, a HS wrestler, both from 5x-scouted Virginia Tech. Williams’ interview is one of the best. He played NT for Va Tech in a 4-2-5 scheme like the Bills use, and while he’s too light for NT in the pros (6’4″ 285 5.05), he’s explosive. I describe Hoffman as a nasty Eric Wood. Beane saw both play. You can give me Lecitus Smith and Brock Hoffman to open holes like these; Hoffman’s #76. Vincent Gray (6’1″ 190 4.45), the Michigan CB (great interview), and Jordan Stout, the big Nittany Lions’ punter and backup kicker, round out the group.

Editor’s babble: Inject this directly into my veins if the Bills draft Jordan Davis. There aren’t enough words of gratitude to thank Dean Kindig for all his contributions to our blog. You can find Dean on Twitter @TCBILLS_Astro.

 

* tried to clean it up a bit. Lengthy article that took 3X to copy & paste.. 🤷‍♂️

Edited February 24, 2022 by Hapless Bills Fan
Edited to add link which OP provided downthread

[ChevyVanMiller]

 Love Dean’s choices and always appreciate the fact that he knows who Brandon being has gone out and looked at the most.

 

But OP, please edit and put in paragraph breaks. This made my head hurt to try to read.

[GoBills808]

Nice

 

i can’t believe I actually read that whole thing

[Cantankeous]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Nice

 

i can’t believe I actually read that whole thing

It’s certainly a challenge. But he’s so damn good at this while bringing his Bills fandom into his research it’s always a must read for us. I’ll resurrect this again after the Draft and see if he can continue his mastery.  

[Bangarang]

I can’t really get behind Davis. He’s great at what he does but I don’t really see the upside there to make him more than just a 2 down player. 
 

Everything else is meh. I haven’t been invested that much in college football to really have an opinion beyond the first few rounds. 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Bangarang

[TheBrownBear]

Would you mind linking to the source?  Would like to see the videos he's referencing at various points.

[Chandler#81]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Would you mind linking to the source?  Would like to see the videos he's referencing at various points.

Astro posted it from Facebook via BuffaloFAMbase.com

[Cantankeous]

http://buffalofambase.com/2022/02/23/astros-pick-six-march-bills-2/?fbclid=IwAR3EWYB65CZLmRGq1pXOlt8VVq0QZYmY1PaRnywSBsRC7DThU7LUwF7B7m4#mobile-header-left-nav

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Astro has always done the TBD-TSW community great service with his contributions.  Thank you Astro (ree rove roo), and to Cantankeous for transcribing.

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

I can’t really get behind Davis. He’s great at what he does but I don’t really see the upside there to make him more than just a 2 down player. 
 

Everything else is meh. I haven’t been invested that much in college football to really have an opinion beyond the first few rounds. 

In the NFL his size advantage will still exist, but it will be much smaller than in college.  

[Malazan]

I miss Astro posting on here.

[BarleyNY]

Probably showing my age here but when I see Velus Jones all that I can think about is Velvet Jones (Eddie Murphy, SNL).

[Motor26]

They already have Oliver but I love Leal from A&M. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were there for Isaiah Spiller.

[Magox]

I've said many times before that I never liked the idea of drafting a run plugging DT for your first round choice and that typically if you are going to draft a first round DT it should be someone who can penetrate and make lots of plays behind the line of scrimmage.

 

The more I have seen video of Jordan Davis the more my view on him particularly is evolving.  I can't think of anyone since Ndamukong Suh and Haloti Ngata a player dominate and stop the run as effectively as Jordan Davis.  He's not just an effective run plugger, he very likely will become an elite run stuffer, top 3 kind of guy.  He will always command a double team, he would most certainly free up Oliver to make even more plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

 

When you have someone who is that elite at stopping the run and who is that imposing of a figure, it alters the scheme.   He changes the whole dynamic on how a team has to attempt to attack your defense, not to mention he would be a handful in the pass rush.  Not so much that he himself would get lots of sacks or pressures, because most likely he wouldn't get all that many but what he would do is assist the team pass rush by helping close the pocket and freeing up other players, especially Linebackers.

 

I'm definitely warming up to Jordan Davis if we don't go WR which is what I'd like for the team to draft in the first round.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

31 minutes ago, Magox said:

I've said many times before that I never liked the idea of drafting a run plugging DT for your first round choice and that typically if you are going to draft a first round DT it should be someone who can penetrate and make lots of plays behind the line of scrimmage.

 

The more I have seen video of Jordan Davis the more my view on him particularly is evolving.  I can't think of anyone since Ndamukong Suh and Haloti Ngata a player dominate and stop the run as effectively as Jordan Davis.  He's not just an effective run plugger, he very likely will become an elite run stuffer, top 3 kind of guy.  He will always command a double team, he would most certainly free up Oliver to make even more plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

 

When you have someone who is that elite at stopping the run and who is that imposing of a figure, it alters the scheme.   He changes the whole dynamic on how a team has to attempt to attack your defense, not to mention he would be a handful in the pass rush.  Not so much that he himself would get lots of sacks or pressures, because most likely he wouldn't get all that many but what he would do is assist the team pass rush by helping close the pocket and freeing up other players, especially Linebackers.

 

I'm definitely warming up to Jordan Davis if we don't go WR which is what I'd like for the team to draft in the first round.

 

 

 

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Jordan Davis is a monster. I'd be very happy with that pick. He's worthy of it

[HappyDays]

My bold draft prediction is that Davis will make it past the Bills pick at 25. Effort concerns and a devalued role.

[Whites Bay]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

I've said many times before that I never liked the idea of drafting a run plugging DT for your first round choice and that typically if you are going to draft a first round DT it should be someone who can penetrate and make lots of plays behind the line of scrimmage.

 

The more I have seen video of Jordan Davis the more my view on him particularly is evolving.  I can't think of anyone since Ndamukong Suh and Haloti Ngata a player dominate and stop the run as effectively as Jordan Davis.  He's not just an effective run plugger, he very likely will become an elite run stuffer, top 3 kind of guy.  He will always command a double team, he would most certainly free up Oliver to make even more plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

 

When you have someone who is that elite at stopping the run and who is that imposing of a figure, it alters the scheme.   He changes the whole dynamic on how a team has to attempt to attack your defense, not to mention he would be a handful in the pass rush.  Not so much that he himself would get lots of sacks or pressures, because most likely he wouldn't get all that many but what he would do is assist the team pass rush by helping close the pocket and freeing up other players, especially Linebackers.

 

I'm definitely warming up to Jordan Davis if we don't go WR which is what I'd like for the team to draft in the first round.

 

When the Bills chose Whitner over Ngata, I very nearly had a stroke.  It set the franchise back 10 years.

 

Okay, there were a LOT of things that set the franchise back 10 years when that happened, but you have to admit that missing Ngata on that draft was one of them.

[JaCrispy]

9 hours ago, Bangarang said:

I can’t really get behind Davis. He’s great at what he does but I don’t really see the upside there to make him more than just a 2 down player. 
 

Everything else is meh. I haven’t been invested that much in college football to really have an opinion beyond the first few rounds. 

My hope is that a guy like Davis would help Edmunds finally reach his full potential...

[MarlinTheMagician]

I have been reading that many think Devonte Wyatt is the better prospect vs. Davis, and he should be there.  I also believe we need to pick a fast corner within the first two picks, our secondary is not fast.  It is covered up by our scheme and the professionalism of the players we have.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

My bold draft prediction is that Davis will make it past the Bills pick at 25. Effort concerns and a devalued role.

 

The 2014 Jordan Phillips vs Clemson video I posted above looks like a Jordan Davis 2021 highlight film.

 

These dudes are remarkably similar..........6'6" and 340.........very tall and play tall.

 

Phillips was also seen as a late first kinda' 3-4 NT prospect.......he just didn't play on a team LOADED with other starting quality NFL players like Davis.

 

And yeah he made plays in college but in the NFL if you don't have leverage you become a liability in run defense.    

 

The length and upper body strength that Phillips and Davis use to make plays in college doesn't translate as a double team drawing run-stuffer............Phillips is basically a gap shooting pass rusher in a frame that's become troublesome to keep healthy.

 

People expecting Jordan Davis to be Haloti Ngata or Vita Vea in run defense are probably going to be disappointed. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

4 hours ago, Magox said:

I've said many times before that I never liked the idea of drafting a run plugging DT for your first round choice and that typically if you are going to draft a first round DT it should be someone who can penetrate and make lots of plays behind the line of scrimmage.

 

The more I have seen video of Jordan Davis the more my view on him particularly is evolving.  I can't think of anyone since Ndamukong Suh and Haloti Ngata a player dominate and stop the run as effectively as Jordan Davis.  He's not just an effective run plugger, he very likely will become an elite run stuffer, top 3 kind of guy.  He will always command a double team, he would most certainly free up Oliver to make even more plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

 

When you have someone who is that elite at stopping the run and who is that imposing of a figure, it alters the scheme.   He changes the whole dynamic on how a team has to attempt to attack your defense, not to mention he would be a handful in the pass rush.  Not so much that he himself would get lots of sacks or pressures, because most likely he wouldn't get all that many but what he would do is assist the team pass rush by helping close the pocket and freeing up other players, especially Linebackers.

 

I'm definitely warming up to Jordan Davis if we don't go WR which is what I'd like for the team to draft in the first round.

 

I think the interview will be a big thing for Davis. He might have the physical ability to be a Suh but it doesn't look like he is treating his body the right way to realize that potential. If Davis can convince beane he wants to work at being the best dt in the league then I say go for it. Getting some pass rush push along with run stopping at dt would add a nice dimension to,the defense. 

[Richard Noggin]

I like CB most of all in round one, as the value and need really seems to sync up there. If the defense can be more effectively multiple on the boundaries moving forward (switching up/blending man and zone coverages and press and off alignments), that will help against top flight QBs/passing attacks. We face a few of those next season, and for the foreseeable future in the AFC.

 

WR is of course intriguing as well. 

 

 

[Don Otreply]

13 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Nice

 

i can’t believe I actually read that whole thing

I think that if the commas and periods were deleted it would have taken it to a whole new level…, 😂

[BigAl2526]

15 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

I have been reading that many think Devonte Wyatt is the better prospect vs. Davis, and he should be there.  I also believe we need to pick a fast corner within the first two picks, our secondary is not fast.  It is covered up by our scheme and the professionalism of the players we have.

I'm leaning that way too.  I think he has 3 down potential.  At this point, I don't think Davis does.  Overall, I love the research Kindig puts into his mock drafting.  It makes his prognostications a lot more credible.  He also gives me encouragement that the Bills could find some late round gems versus the mediocrity that abounds in a lot of full mock drafts.

[Magox]

22 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

 

I hear ya, but I didn't see that level of inconsistency from him for Georgia.  If anything, for me the main concern was his conditioning and can he become a disciplined pro and correct that and get in better shape.   He does play a bit upright and that would certainly have to improve but he did take on lots of double teams and he was a mammoth of a beast to move.    

 

Does he show lots of quickness and penetrating sort of DT play like Jordan Phillips?  Yeah, he does but that isn't a knock if anything it's an added feature.

 

You could end up being right that maybe he just becomes a decent player in the league and nothing more and I think you can always look at most players and find weaknesses to their game, but I think his floor is about as high as any DT in the draft and from my view at a very minimum he becomes a good run stuffing DT who can make some plays behind the line of scrimmage and at best become a dominant run stopper.

[Buffalo716]

22 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The 2014 Jordan Phillips vs Clemson video I posted above looks like a Jordan Davis 2021 highlight film.

 

These dudes are remarkably similar..........6'6" and 340.........very tall and play tall.

 

Phillips was also seen as a late first kinda' 3-4 NT prospect.......he just didn't play on a team LOADED with other starting quality NFL players like Davis.

 

And yeah he made plays in college but in the NFL if you don't have leverage you become a liability in run defense.    

 

The length and upper body strength that Phillips and Davis use to make plays in college doesn't translate as a double team drawing run-stuffer............Phillips is basically a gap shooting pass rusher in a frame that's become troublesome to keep healthy.

 

People expecting Jordan Davis to be Haloti Ngata or Vita Vea in run defense are probably going to be disappointed. 

He's a second round pick ideally

[MarlinTheMagician]

Instead of Davis I would like a fast, talented CB in Rd. 1, or trade down and get that CB early in RD. 2, adding a pick that helps the offense.  Get Travis Jones or Phidarian Mathis in the second.  Double team eaters.  

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

He's a second round pick ideally

 

I agree........and that's where Phillips went.........and he would have been worth it as an impactful pass rushing DT3T had he reached his potential..........but he wasn't a natural DT1T or Nose........he just looked like he could dominate at the LOS because college OL were ill-prepared to handle his length and upper body strength.   

 

We've literally had a couple of these top heavy 340# DT's in Jordan Phillips and Vernon Butler and they have proven to be far from dominant at controlling the LOS but the assumption by some is that Davis is going to be entirely different.

[frogger]

Davis vs Wyatt,  Davis is a huge run stopping creature, he is a game changer in the run game, but offers little more than a hand in the face as a rusher, he is a 2 down DT, with Buffalo's rotation it would work.  Wyatt is more three tech, he could be a 1 tech, but he would be similar to lining Oliver in that position, who did okay but it's not his best spot.  But you never have to take Wyatt off the field and he chases players down the field.

Jones in the 2nd is a water down blend of the two, he has all the abilities to be a quality starter.  

But, with the way Harrison and Oliver ended the year and assuming we can re-sign Phillips I'd rather bring in a FA. Two free agents that I think could be reasonable and could fill these needs are Fatukasi and Austin Johnson.

 

I firmly believe that 1st round, if we keep the pick, will be a corner...can't pay White, Poyer, Hyde, Johnson, Neal AND a starting Free agent CB or Wallace...not to mention we don't have an update on White's health yet.

 

I'm a fan of both of the corner in Washington,  Booth and McCreary in the first and double dip in the 4th or late third and get Marcus Jones, fast, twitchy and a great returner...he also isn't tall (why he falls)..I think Tyreek Hill wins on speed and leverage, not saying he is a Hill stopper, but as an athlete, no one might come closer than Jones.  

[BobbyC81]

On 2/24/2022 at 6:42 PM, Whites Bay said:

When the Bills chose Whitner over Ngata, I very nearly had a stroke.  It set the franchise back 10 years.

 

Okay, there were a LOT of things that set the franchise back 10 years when that happened, but you have to admit that missing Ngata on that draft was one of them.

But…but…they then traded back into the first and picked the legendary John McCargo!

[Magox]

He looked pretty darn good against double teams and top competition.  Even with the double teams he wasn’t getting pushed back.   
 

Also his bull rush is effective in helping collapse the pocket.   

 

 

 

I think the bigger risk for Davis is he willing to do what it takes to continue to improve?  Is he willing to work at his craft and get in great shape? 
 

Interviews will be hugely important to determine if he is a 1st or 2nd round pick.

[muppy]

In case folks haven't read this Im bumping it. a ton of great info here

[Gugny]

On 2/24/2022 at 10:45 AM, GoBills808 said:

Nice

 

i can’t believe I actually read that whole thing

 

With English being your second language, I can't believe it either!

[glazeduck]

Since basically all of his picks were upended by free agency, here's his April version: https://buffalofambase.com/2022/04/12/astros-pick-six-april-2022-edition-bills/

[4merper4mer]

The safety he had in the 5th was just touted on GMF as a possible late 1st.  So 5th seems like a big stretch.

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

The safety he had in the 5th was just touted on GMF as a possible late 1st.  So 5th seems like a big stretch.

Big time.  He might last til rd 3….but not til our pick in rd 3.  Lots of nice safeties in this draft.  

[glazeduck]

Velus Jones in the 3rd would be an extremely disappointing pick as well. Guy's not a WR...

[Turbo44]

I'd throw the option of a punter in there in Rd 6 or 7 - UGA or Penn State guy.  Beane spend a 6th on Bass, I could see him spending one on another kicker

[Sierra Foothills]

Is there any present-day equivalent to the guys who used to do the Youtube channel DraftBreakDown?

 

It seems like maybe some of their people moved on to FFAstronauts...

 

As BADOL posted upstream with the Jordan Phillips vs Clemson video you would be able to watch every snap by a player in a game, which is infinitely more valuable than watching a highlight video.

 

The videos would visually highlight the subject player or players before each snap and then let the play roll.

 

Anyone know of any football geeks that do this kind of video?

Edited April 12, 2022 by Sierra Foothills