What would it take to get Chase Young?

[Weatherman]

54 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

You would be royally pissed at Beane if he signed a guy that will miss at least 80% of the year.

Not if was only for the remainder of the season after he missed the 80% of the year. 

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Even if we were to consider this trade, I don’t think Washington would or could do it. Getting our 25th pick (and any futures) and with their 11th pick, really wouldn’t be worth enough to move very high up in the draft this year. And even if it were, it doesn’t seem like there is much elite QB talent in this draft.

 

i think what WFT is probably thinking is doing Young for Russell Wilson or another existing star. 

I agree. Most likely scenario for something like this is, a qb Washington covets drops further than he should, and there's a 3 way deal, where Washington packages our picks to another team ahead on the board. Pickett?

I dunno why I'm entertaining this lol it's like me planning the perfect date with Scarlett Johansen, just in case

[HOUSE]

Hard Pass, I am feeling the power now....

[Not at the table Karlos]

7 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I understand that the Commanders defensive line is loaded, but Young would be a lot for them to part with.

 

For argument's sake, if the Bills were to pull this type of trade off, they would also have to pay him top dollar. Can the Bills do that?

Isn't he still on rookie deal? I don't think he can get an extension yet.

[Bill from NYC]

This would be a very dumb trade if it even approached those Mack numbers. Josh Allen needs blockers and better weapons, not more first roud defensive picks. This team is built around Josh and the sport is now built on offense.

 

Hopefully McBeane won't be stupid enough to do a trade like this.

Edited February 19, 2022 by Bill from NYC

[Chandler#81]

7 hours ago, papazoid said:

considering the bills picks are in the high 25's .....it would take 3 first rounders and a massive contract extension when he's due

 

neither side would take that

This, plus no college scout or nfl pundit says there’s 1st Round talent for qb this Draft.

Typical fair weatherman forecast 🤦‍♂️

Edited February 19, 2022 by Chandler#81

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Besides, the existence of this thread precludes this from EVER happening. Hypothetical trade threads are NOT allowed to come to existence per Jim Facenda and the other Gods of football. 

 

 

…I’m pretty sure. 

Counterpoint: We pretty much spoke the Diggs trade into existence a full year before it happened 😂

8 hours ago, Weatherman said:

The picks provide them Ammo to trade for one.  

 

If Young is so worth giving up high picks for...why would another team want the picks over Young? Why wouldn't they just take Young plus the Commanders picks?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Counterpoint: We pretty much spoke the Diggs trade into existence a full year before it happened 😂

🤔 I remember that...

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

🤔 I remember that...

It was a VERY high level buisness meeting, indeed.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

It was a VERY high level buisness meeting, indeed.

Look closely.  The lady in the white top is reacting to a 'get AB!' suggestion.

[davefan66]

11 hours ago, Weatherman said:

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761
 

Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB.  A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites.  What would fair market value be?  Do we have the ammo?  Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2.  

Us having th 25th this year and most likely having a higher pick next year is a non-starter.

 

Teams looking to move up in a draft need picks as low as possible to have the ability to maneuver.  Packaging a 25th and potentially the same, or higher, in next years doesn’t get you in the top 5 IMHO.

 

[ProcessTruster]

10 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Starting over with a good pass rusher on a rookie deal seems like a good idea.  Why on earth would they want to trade him?

I live in the DC area, and they are not dealing a guy who is their best player, and who is still on a cheap rookie contract.   and of course Bills don't have the cap space to pay him ultimately anyway.   So that's a dead duck.  

[cwater10]

11 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Who in the hell are the Commanders?

Go ask a Bonnie?

[Big Turk]

Multiple first round picks

28 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

I live in the DC area, and they are not dealing a guy who is their best player, and who is still on a cheap rookie contract.   and of course Bills don't have the cap space to pay him ultimately anyway.   So that's a dead duck.  

 

There are reports everyone on the roster is available if it helps them obtain a franchise QB

[Doc]

 

Young had just 1.5 sacks in 9 healthy games and then suffered an ACL tear.  No thanks.  I'm not taking the risk.

[ganesh]

12 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

 

I hear that a lot from Bills fans. 

 

"Hey, TJ Watt is available"

 

"Hard pass. Wouldnt touch him with a 10 foot pole. Maybe for a 6th"  

 

They feel some sort of power from it, I think. 

You mean JJ Watt 

[SWATeam]

12 hours ago, Weatherman said:

 

Please do explain.  He has been great every year except this year because he was hurt.  

My take is that he has all the talent in the world but has failed to develop.  He's currently a one trick pony rushing around the edge getting pushed wide just about every time- like in the Bills game.  Maybe he gets to work and develops some counters, but as of now he's been disappointing especially given the talent he is working next to on that line and his immense physical gifts.

[Weatherman]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Young had just 1.5 sacks in 9 healthy games and then suffered an ACL tear.  No thanks.  I'm not taking the risk.

Are sacks the only metric we’re looking at?  How about TFL, QB Hurries/pressures, FF, FR?  

[Chicken Boo]

11 hours ago, Rigotz said:

This. 
 

If we were going to overpay for a defensive end, there are about 10-20 guys I would want over Chase Young for the 1st Rounder+ it would take.

 Lol “Hall Of Fame Talent” …

 

Just FYI, he had 1.5 sacks this year in 9 games and was constantly out of position. He’s a huge reason why the Redskins defense regressed badly this year.

 

Rigotz, is it?  I won't forget the name.  

 

[Doc]

25 minutes ago, Weatherman said:

Are sacks the only metric we’re looking at?  How about TFL, QB Hurries/pressures, FF, FR?  

 

How'd he do there?

[ToGoGo]

53 minutes ago, ganesh said:

You mean JJ Watt 

 

Haha no. 

 

TJ. 

 

I'm exaggerating the habit of an unusually large number of posters to say no to acquiring great players because they fear losing draft picks or salary cap space. 

[wppete]

I’d give them a 2nd and 3rd and Cole Beasley for him. 

[Royale with Cheese]

9 hours ago, Weatherman said:

Not if was only for the remainder of the season after he missed the 80% of the year. 

Two torn ACL’s in the last 16 months….I don’t think he has much left.

[BuffaloRebound]

Answer to original question is not enough.  Only thing Bills have that they’d trade Young for is Allen and that ain’t happening in a million years. The 25th pick and late 1st rounders for the foreseeable future ain’t gonna help Washington land a franchise QB.  

[Not at the table Karlos]

6 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

This would be a very dumb trade if it even approached those Mack numbers. Josh Allen needs blockers and better weapons, not more first roud defensive picks. This team is built around Josh and the sport is now built on offense.

 

Hopefully McBeane won't be stupid enough to do a trade like this.

And stopping those offenses is how you win championships. 

[Rigotz]

2 hours ago, Weatherman said:

Are sacks the only metric we’re looking at?  How about TFL, QB Hurries/pressures, FF, FR?  

 

In 9 games last year:

1.5 Sacks

3 tackles for loss

2 forced fumbles 

0 fumbles recovered

 

I don’t know about you, but I’m ready to crown him a Hall of Famer.

 

 

[whorlnut]

Chase Young?  Not happening. We have a better chance of getting Montez Sweat and that isn’t happening either. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Answer to original question is not enough.  Only thing Bills have that they’d trade Young for is Allen and that ain’t happening in a million years. The 25th pick and late 1st rounders for the foreseeable future ain’t gonna help Washington land a franchise QB.  

Didn’t the Bills package a bunch of picks in multiple moves to get to draft Allen?
 

Seems to me 25 could help them do just that especially when they already pick at 11 (and 42). 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

And stopping those offenses is how you win championships. 

Outscoring them is how you win.  Stopping then means nothing if you can’t outscore them

 

back on topic.  

We’re discussing trading for Chase Young.  Good luck with that.  

Edited February 19, 2022 by NewEra

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Didn’t the Bills package a bunch of picks in multiple moves to get to draft Allen?
 

Seems to me 25 could help them do just that especially when they already pick at 11 (and 42). 

They would have to have a trade partner with a QB they wanted lined up and that partner would have to prefer our picks over Young or Sweat.  That scenario is unlikely to say the least. 

[billsfan89]

15 hours ago, papazoid said:

considering the bills picks are in the high 25's .....it would take 3 first rounders and a massive contract extension when he's due

 

neither side would take that

 

You would at least be looking at the 25th pick plus next years first and a couple of other picks plus maybe a throw in like Boogie or AJ. I just don't see the Bills doing that for a player coming off of an ACL. 

[mannc]

17 hours ago, Weatherman said:

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10601761
 

Supposedly, the Commanders want to start over and May need ammo to trade for or draft a QB.  A Chase Young quality DE on this team and we are instant Super Bowl favorites.  What would fair market value be?  Do we have the ammo?  Khalil Mack cost was 2 #1’s a #3 and #6 for KM and a #2.  

Good lord…it truly is going to be a long offseason around here.  

[Weatherman]

3 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

In 9 games last year:

1.5 Sacks

3 tackles for loss

2 forced fumbles 

0 fumbles recovered

 

I don’t know about you, but I’m ready to crown him a Hall of Famer.

 

 

How’d he do the previous year?  Who said anything about the HOF?  He had a solid rookie campaign 7.5 sacks, 4FF, 3 FR, and crowned DROY.  We don’t have a single DE on this team that can effectively rush the passer.  Rousseau is still an unknown and everyone else most likely wouldn’t be starters on any team in the league.  

Edited February 19, 2022 by Weatherman

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I would say two 1st rd picks and Edmunds.

[Bill from NYC]

4 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

And stopping those offenses is how you win championships. 

I understand this Bro and a part of me pines for the "good old days" when Jack Tatum could flat out destroy receivers over the middle, even on incomplete passes 3 feet over the receiver's outstretched arms. I also miss Earl Campbell just running into defenders and knocking them into next week. 

 

The thing is, those days are all but gone. Brady at 44? Years ago he might not have made it to 34.  Josh Allen is the real deal and the answer to the Bills problems....providing he stays healthy.  He needs better weapons and he needs better blocking. When he gets these things, we will win a Super Bowl, perhaps several of them.

 

I hope that we can have a cyber handshake and agree to disagree. 👍🙂🏈

 

As always, the above is jmo.

[Maynard]

Let’s trade Allen for Sweat AND Young. I wanna be like the Commodores on the night shift. 

[Perk71]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Good lord…it truly is going to be a long offseason around here.  

Not as bad as all those off-season years in the 17 year drought.  I remember that was the only thing I looked forward to, the off-season... Lol

 

Go Bills!!

[Weatherman]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

I understand this Bro and a part of me pines for the "good old days" when Jack Tatum could flat out destroy receivers over the middle, even on incomplete passes 3 feet over the receiver's outstretched arms. I also miss Earl Campbell just running into defenders and knocking them into next week. 

 

The thing is, those days are all but gone. Brady at 44? Years ago he might not have made it to 34.  Josh Allen is the real deal and the answer to the Bills problems....providing he stays healthy.  He needs better weapons and he needs better blocking. When he gets these things, we will win a Super Bowl, perhaps several of them.

 

I hope that we can have a cyber handshake and agree to disagree. 👍🙂🏈

 

As always, the above is jmo.

Do you need to be reminded Josh had us 90 seconds and 13 seconds away from most likely an NFL championship and the Defense completely failed him?  Defense wins championships…ask the Bengals I’m sure they would agree.  

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Good lord…it truly is going to be a long offseason around here.  

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.  

Edited February 19, 2022 by Weatherman

[Bill from NYC]

1 minute ago, Weatherman said:

Do you need to be reminded Josh had us 90 seconds and 13 seconds away from most likely an NFL championship and the Defense completely failed him?  Defense wins championships…ask the Bengals I’m sure they would agree.  

Yes. Thanks for the reminder. 

 

Please keep teaching me about football; I have so much to learn from you. Do bring up some more trade scenarios in which we give up years of draft picks for a defender but next time, make it a trade for a defensive back, OK? 👍👌👍 

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yes. Thanks for the reminder. 

 

Please keep teaching me about football; I have so much to learn from you. Do bring up some more trade scenarios in which we give up years of draft picks for a defender but next time, make it a trade for a defensive back, OK? 👍👌👍 

I put him on ignore long ago.  Do yourself a favor.  Do the same.
 

I forgot he existed until this insightful thread made its way into my life.