K-No Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Invoices are posted. My tickets are up 14.8%. That's a lot when I have to sell several games. I like how they always note the average percent increase to soften the message but then reality hits when you get your invoice. Oh well, another year. Go Bills. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Wait till the new stadium. Bills fans will be saying hello PSL fees. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 To be fair inflation was 7.5% this past year, so that might account for some of it. But at the same time, we know businesses just charge what they think people will pay and not necessarily depending on what their costs are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, DapperCam said: To be fair inflation was 7.5% this past year, so that might account for some of it. But at the same time, we know businesses just charge what they think people will pay and not necessarily depending on what their costs are. It's market economics. The good news is consumers are free to spend their money elsewhere when it comes to entertainment. No coercion on the buying or selling side - awesome! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 unfortunately, welcome to life. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, K-No said: Invoices are posted. My tickets are up 14.8%. That's a lot when I have to sell several games. I like how they always note the average percent increase to soften the message but then reality hits when you get your invoice. Oh well, another year. Go Bills. Just go trade some crypto, you'll make that in a day or two. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Mine are 20 per cent up. Section 119. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The Tickets are below average for the NFL in general and guess what they'll be below average when they build a new stadium(albeit much more expensive below average). Their trying to cash in on a great team and saving up that money for that stadium haha. Spend the money, you spend a lot of money on a lot less enjoyable things in life. I get that season tickets are not a necessity in life compared to other things but paying bills probably doesn't bring joy to you. Plus I'm assuming season ticket holders will get first crack and new stadium seats. I think its a bad time to give up your seasons if you want tickets into the new stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, Greg S said: Wait till the new stadium. Bills fans will be saying hello PSL fees. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the Bills think PSLs are going to work, & I agree with you I think thays the plan, they're in for a rude awakening, IMO. This season, one of the best Bills teams of the last 25 years, and I struggled to sell my tickets on the secondary market. The games after September had very little demand and the prices reflected that. My tickets to the Panthers game sold for $15 a piece (lower level, 50 yard line, Bills side). Maybe covid and the situation @ the border suppressed the market some, but I don't think that's the only factor. I'm 100% not renewing my 4 season tickets if and when they try and tack on PSLs. I wonder what they think they can get away with as far as PSL. Im thinking $1250-2500 for the lower level seats between the 40s. Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Estro said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the Bills think PSLs are going to work, & I agree with you I think thays the plan, they're in for a rude awakening, IMO. This season, one of the best Bills teams of the last 25 years, and I struggled to sell my tickets on the secondary market. The games after September had very little demand and the prices reflected that. My tickets to the Panthers game sold for $15 a piece (lower level, 50 yard line, Bills side). Maybe covid and the situation @ the border suppressed the market some, but I don't think that's the only factor. I'm 100% not renewing my 4 season tickets if and when they try and tack on PSLs. I wonder what they think they can get away with as far as PSL. Im thinking $1250-2500 for the lower level seats between the 40s. Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? I can't and won't speak for anyone else, but If I can get season tickets for those seats in the new stadium, I will pay the PSL fee that goes along with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Mine works out to 1k a ticket. Section 129. That's an incredible bargain by NFL standards 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Estro said: Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? There won't be many. And for those that do, there will be others to buy them up. Particularly seats like yours. The team playing well after a long suck period, and the border open. Bills fans in general will pay whatever is asked. Look at how many kept paying even during the decade of suck to "support their team". It pisses a lot of people off that the state will throw money at it, myself included. It should all be paid for by the team, the NFL, and the fans that go to the games. Edited February 17, 2022 by CodeMonkey 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Estro said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the Bills think PSLs are going to work, & I agree with you I think thays the plan, they're in for a rude awakening, IMO. This season, one of the best Bills teams of the last 25 years, and I struggled to sell my tickets on the secondary market. The games after September had very little demand and the prices reflected that. My tickets to the Panthers game sold for $15 a piece (lower level, 50 yard line, Bills side). Maybe covid and the situation @ the border suppressed the market some, but I don't think that's the only factor. I'm 100% not renewing my 4 season tickets if and when they try and tack on PSLs. I wonder what they think they can get away with as far as PSL. Im thinking $1250-2500 for the lower level seats between the 40s. Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? I can tell you what the Jets charge ( I have tickets) I have two seats which are $125 a piece. I am in the lower level right behind the goalpost. When they kick extra points and FG's I am on TV. The Jets charge me $5000 per seat for the PSL fee. However they give me options to pay it. I can pay in full, or over 10 years and 15 years. I chose 10 years. So its a $1000 fee for 10 years. Of course the Jets charge interest (bastards) if you don't pay it in full. My fee isn't that expensive compared to others. Between the 40's I heard the PSL fee goes as high as $25,000 per seat. That is your corporate businesses and the extremely wealthy. The Jets DO NOT charge a PSL fee if you sit in the upper deck. I believe the Giants charge $1000 for people who sit in the upper deck. Now the Jets and Giants have the NYC market and corporate support to draw from. Buffalo obviously doesn't have that. My guess is the Bills will probably charge between $1000 - $2500 for the lower level depending where you are sitting with no PSL fee for the upper deck. FYI - last year at Giants Stadium I was paying $1700 for everything. At MetLife its $3700. Right now I am paying for my seasons over 4 credit card payments charged on 2/1, 3/1, 4/1, and 5/1. My PSL fee is due Nov 1st. So the bill for my seasons and PSL fee come at different times. I would imagine the Bills will do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Still one of the cheapest tickets in the NFL... Gonna love those new stadium prices coming your way soon. Throw in some consistent winning football and a Championship and Ka-*****-ching$$$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 That’s a lot easier to swallow knowing that we’ll be competing for a super Bowl for the foreseeable future… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 A certain lifestyle must be maintained.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Greg S said: I can tell you what the Jets charge ( I have tickets) I have two seats which are $125 a piece. I am in the lower level right behind the goalpost. When they kick extra points and FG's I am on TV. The Jets charge me $5000 per seat for the PSL fee. However they give me options to pay it. I can pay in full, or over 10 years and 15 years. I chose 10 years. So its a $1000 fee for 10 years. Of course the Jets charge interest (bastards) if you don't pay it in full. My fee isn't that expensive compared to others. Between the 40's I heard the PSL fee goes as high as $25,000 per seat. That is your corporate businesses and the extremely wealthy. The Jets DO NOT charge a PSL fee if you sit in the upper deck. I believe the Giants charge $1000 for people who sit in the upper deck. Now the Jets and Giants have the NYC market and corporate support to draw from. Buffalo obviously doesn't have that. My guess is the Bills will probably charge between $1000 - $2500 for the lower level depending where you are sitting with no PSL fee for the upper deck. FYI - last year at Giants Stadium I was paying $1700 for everything. At MetLife its $3700. Right now I am paying for my seasons over 4 credit card payments charged on 2/1, 3/1, 4/1, and 5/1. My PSL fee is due Nov 1st. So the bill for my seasons and PSL fee come at different times. I would imagine the Bills will do the same thing. Dear Lord....you PAY actual money to watch the Jets??? Like, on purpose? Is this your fantasy football punishment? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Wait until the new open air stadium. PSLs, big price increases, and if you want to sell tickets to a December game you won't be able to give them away for free. How appealing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Dear Lord....you PAY actual money to watch the Jets??? Like, on purpose? Is this your fantasy football punishment? I like going to the games besides its fun to watch them lose. To your point I am an idiot for paying these prices but at least I am guaranteed to see the Bills in person every year. Plus the tailgating is always a good time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Estro said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the Bills think PSLs are going to work, & I agree with you I think thays the plan, they're in for a rude awakening, IMO. This season, one of the best Bills teams of the last 25 years, and I struggled to sell my tickets on the secondary market. The games after September had very little demand and the prices reflected that. My tickets to the Panthers game sold for $15 a piece (lower level, 50 yard line, Bills side). Maybe covid and the situation @ the border suppressed the market some, but I don't think that's the only factor. I'm 100% not renewing my 4 season tickets if and when they try and tack on PSLs. I wonder what they think they can get away with as far as PSL. Im thinking $1250-2500 for the lower level seats between the 40s. Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? If it's that much they will probably spread it over 5 years. They aren't heartless.....just greedy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg S said: I can tell you what the Jets charge ( I have tickets) I have two seats which are $125 a piece. I am in the lower level right behind the goalpost. When they kick extra points and FG's I am on TV. The Jets charge me $5000 per seat for the PSL fee. However they give me options to pay it. I can pay in full, or over 10 years and 15 years. I chose 10 years. So its a $1000 fee for 10 years. Of course the Jets charge interest (bastards) if you don't pay it in full. My fee isn't that expensive compared to others. Between the 40's I heard the PSL fee goes as high as $25,000 per seat. That is your corporate businesses and the extremely wealthy. The Jets DO NOT charge a PSL fee if you sit in the upper deck. I believe the Giants charge $1000 for people who sit in the upper deck. Now the Jets and Giants have the NYC market and corporate support to draw from. Buffalo obviously doesn't have that. My guess is the Bills will probably charge between $1000 - $2500 for the lower level depending where you are sitting with no PSL fee for the upper deck. FYI - last year at Giants Stadium I was paying $1700 for everything. At MetLife its $3700. Right now I am paying for my seasons over 4 credit card payments charged on 2/1, 3/1, 4/1, and 5/1. My PSL fee is due Nov 1st. So the bill for my seasons and PSL fee come at different times. I would imagine the Bills will do the same thing. You aren't on TV alot huh? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: You aren't on TV alot huh? Sure I am have you seen the Jets play defense? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: You aren't on TV alot huh? I would guess a lot of TV time..........when the opponents score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Time to pass the tickets back to my brother-in-law , he likes expensive things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: You aren't on TV alot huh? Cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Greg S said: Wait till the new stadium. Bills fans will be saying hello PSL fees. YOU will be saying hello, I will be saying GOODBYE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Thats nothing. Two Big Mac meals at McDonalds is like 25 bucks now. A few years ago it was more like 10 or 12 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 If you are selling off many games on the secondary market and bitching about the low return, just buy tickets on the secondary market and ditch the seasons. If you aren’t going to every game, maybe the economics will work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: If you are selling off many games on the secondary market and bitching about the low return, just buy tickets on the secondary market and ditch the seasons. If you aren’t going to every game, maybe the economics will work out. Thats what I ended up doing or paying face to my friends with seasons that cant go to the game. You pay more in Sept and save the rest of the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) As discussed in another thread only said 11 % mayhaps I misremembered edit oops The average change is $11.57 per game. I got the 11 right 😆 Edited February 17, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Greg S said: Wait till the new stadium. Bills fans will be saying hello PSL fees. This comment always appears but current Bills STH for club seats already have a PSL. Of course this will increase in a new stadium but these are already included in club seat price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr Info said: This comment always appears but current Bills STH for club seats already have a PSL. Of course this will increase in a new stadium but these are already included in club seat price. I didn't know that about the club seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, K-No said: Invoices are posted. My tickets are up 14.8%. That's a lot when I have to sell several games. I like how they always note the average percent increase to soften the message but then reality hits when you get your invoice. Oh well, another year. Go Bills. Dude.....this is the tip of the iceburg when that new stadium comes your ####### is gonna bleed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Estro said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the Bills think PSLs are going to work, & I agree with you I think thays the plan, they're in for a rude awakening, IMO. This season, one of the best Bills teams of the last 25 years, and I struggled to sell my tickets on the secondary market. The games after September had very little demand and the prices reflected that. My tickets to the Panthers game sold for $15 a piece (lower level, 50 yard line, Bills side). Maybe covid and the situation @ the border suppressed the market some, but I don't think that's the only factor. I'm 100% not renewing my 4 season tickets if and when they try and tack on PSLs. I wonder what they think they can get away with as far as PSL. Im thinking $1250-2500 for the lower level seats between the 40s. Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats? Psls still are going to conducive to the Buffalo economy It's not going to be 10-15,000 grand pals It might be 1 to 3,000 bucks And personally as a long time season ticket holder.. I don't buy them to sell them.. I don't buy them because the resale value .. honestly never crosses my mind I buy them because I want to go to the games.. the resale value honestly doesn't matter to the Pegulas because they have 70,000 people paying full price Edited February 17, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Initially I thought this was a SITH thread. Ready to pull out my Darth helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: Just go trade some crypto, you'll make that in a day or two. Not today... Crypto was down 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: If you are selling off many games on the secondary market and bitching about the low return, just buy tickets on the secondary market and ditch the seasons. If you aren’t going to every game, maybe the economics will work out. He might be trying to pay for his Bills habit that way. I used to do the same with the Sabres, you know, waaaaaay back when they looked like a NHL team. Living 1+ hours from the stadium I'd sell a lot of weekday games and go with friends or my kids on weekends and the occasional weekday game. I'd always sell for more than my cost, particularly habs and leafs games. Selling those games paid for the games I went to. Granted with only 8 home games, its much harder to do that for the NFL. Edited February 17, 2022 by CodeMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: YOU will be saying hello, I will be saying GOODBYE That sounds like you could make a nice song out of it…..… 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Thats nothing. Two Big Mac meals at McDonalds is like 25 bucks now. A few years ago it was more like 10 or 12 bucks. Have you bought a chicken wing lately? Some places the menu says “Market Price”, like it’s lobster or something! Everything is getting crazy expensive, and rates are about to rise for the first time in an amazingly long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Augie said: That sounds like you could make a nice song out of it…..… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 And yet the Bills will STILL be the cheapest ticket in the NFL. Despite being one of the two or three best teams in the league. C'est la vie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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