Is Singletary good enough?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Singletary just put up another solid season with 4.6 YPC, 870 yards rushing, and 7 TDs. He had another 40 receptions but only 250 yards in receiving. 

Somehow it took 13 games to make him the feature back. Once that happened he looked really good down the stretch. A few more carries at the beginning of the year and he easily surpasses 1000 yards rushing.  Of course that is when Bates was inserted into the OL starting unit and the entire line started playing better.

 

I was a draft Najee Harris guy last year. 

 

Now I'm thinking, at least for 2022 I'm fine with Singletary being the feature back. I'm even fine with Moss and a cheap FA as the backups.  I just don't see RB as a top need now and they have at least 5 or 6 other spots that need or could be addressed before RB. 

 

What does the board think?

[Sweats]

I want a big bruiser back that can carry the load on 3rd and 4th down plays.......take pressure off of JA and move the pile.

[racketmaster]

No, especially if he got injured then there is no option. Most teams have multiple rbs that can step in and be productive. Plus he is in final year of contract and we need to prepare for if or when he leaves for more $.

[filthymcnasty08]

I don't think Motor can sustain for the whole year what he did late this year.  He deserves the chance to but we should have some insurance better than Moss.

[VaMilBill]

Motor is a solid second string level back. But he is not a premier guy. Sure, if he gets opportunities he’s going to put up some solid stats. Problem is he isn’t a home run hitter. He simply doesn’t have the speed to break away (from even LBs) not the ability to make people miss. 
 

Simply said, Motor doesn’t scare opposing defenses. 
 

I have no doubt we can do better than Motor. Although, he’s great to have as a change of pace back IMO. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by VaMilBill

[Brandon]

I'm on the fence.  He's good enough that he deserves a chance at the job,  but I also think they could stand some decent competition at the RB position.  At the very least,  I think they need to do better than Moss. 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

We need another solid back as a complement Singletary. Either to replace Moss as the "move the pile" back (which Moss failed to do too often) or as more of a home run threat (like a Breida who can actually block and knows the plays). All good teams need two or more fairly effective backs. Motor is one. 

 

[Bubba Gump]

The Bills need a guy that can slither through a hole or take it outside and run away from everyone. Devin would be a great 2nd option RB. Or we could just find a freak like Travis Henry who can do anything.

[Niagara Dude]

9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Singletary just put up another solid season with 4.6 YPC, 870 yards rushing, and 7 TDs. He had another 40 receptions but only 250 yards in receiving. 

Somehow it took 13 games to make him the feature back. Once that happened he looked really good down the stretch. A few more carries at the beginning of the year and he easily surpasses 1000 yards rushing.  Of course that is when Bates was inserted into the OL starting unit and the entire line started playing better.

 

I was a draft Najee Harris guy last year. 

 

Now I'm thinking, at least for 2022 I'm fine with Singletary being the feature back. I'm even fine with Moss and a cheap FA as the backups.  I just don't see RB as a top need now and they have at least 5 or 6 other spots that need or could be addressed before RB. 

 

What does the board think?

I would sign Fournette from Tampa,  has both speed and power.  Remember Edmunds meeting him in the hole on 3rd and short and he broke tackle. Also is able to make big chunk runs. Sign him as main back and make Singletary backup.  He showed on Sunday he still does not have burst/speed to hit the hole.  Hole was open on key second and short and he just kept going wide and got shut down.

 

We cannot have another season of seeing Allen running the ball and taking hits,  they ran Allen so much because others could not get it done.  We need a upgrade and Moss should be cut

[Brand J]

He’s “good enough” but not a game breaker. Give me a game breaker at that position.

[BananaB]

He sure looked the part once we got rid of that RB by committee bull####. 

[Mat68]

Yes, could they do better?  Maybe.  Moss was supposed to be.  With Allen, I don't see Buffalo investing a lot into Rbs.  Late picks, cheap FA should land you a serviceable one, some cases an elite one.

[davefan66]

Yeah.  He’s good enough.  Proved it when he got the ball this year.

 

We have a few other issues that need addressing before another RB - middle LB, CB opposite Tre’, consistent OL depth.  3rd or 4th WR pending offseason moves - Sanders who can go,  Beasley and whatever happens with him.  See him as 3rd or most likely 4th. Davis will be escalated to 2nd string.

 

TE?  Seems to be not talked about much.  Knox is a number one.  Is Sweeney a 2?  Not sure.  Who else do we have?  Gilliam?  Not sure he fits as a two or three.

[CaptnCoke11]

I’m in the get a bigger powerful athletic guy to pair with him camp.  Moss isn’t that guy 

[Niagara Dude]

Just now, davefan66 said:

Yeah.  He’s good enough.  Proved it when he got the ball this year.

 

We have a few other issues that need addressing before another RB - middle LB, CB opposite Tre’, consistent OL depth.  3rd or 4th WR pending offseason moves - Sanders who can go,  Beasley and whatever happens with him.  See him as 3rd or most likely 4th. Davis will be escalated to 2nd string.

 

TE?  Seems to be not talked about much.  Knox is a number one.  Is Sweeney a 2?  Not sure.  Who else do we have?  Gilliam?  Not sure he fits as a two or three.

I  think they could use a starting RB with more speed and another TE

[Chaos]

Not the worlds biggest singletary fan.  Would rather priortize a better oline though than a better running back. 

[LABILLBACKER]

12 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Motor is a solid second string level back. But he is not a premier guy. Sure, if he gets opportunities he’s going to put up some solid stats. Problem is he isn’t a home run hitter. He simply doesn’t have the speed to break away (from even LBs) not the ability to make people miss. 
 

Simply said, Motor doesn’t scare opposing defenses. 
 

I have no doubt we can do better than Motor. Although, he’s great to have as a change of pace back IMO. 

So true. Singletary is not an RB1 nor will he ever be at 4.66 speed. Moss is a terrible backup so yes we need more depth at RB. Just like we need someone better than Sweeney to backup Knox.

[davefan66]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I  think they could use a starting RB with more speed and another TE

Singletary has speed.  And he’s good for this offense.  
 

We need middle LB the most on my opinion.

[hondo in seattle]

Motor is a good, high-effort guy - but not an upper tier starter.

 

It would be cool to have another, better back.   Lots of different types of backs could add to this offense:

 

*  A Thurman type who can run, block and catch.

*  An OJ type who can run so well it puts fear in the D and they have to account for him.

*  A Cookie type who can pound the rock up the middle and wear a defense down.

[Niagara Dude]

Just now, davefan66 said:

Singletary has speed.  And he’s good for this offense.  
 

We need middle LB the most on my opinion.

I disagree,  it showed on that second down run

[Blank Stare]

For feature back role? No. As a rotational piece? Absolutely.
 

I’d like to see an upgrade in one or both of the size or speed department. 

[Niagara Dude]

3 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

Singletary has speed.  And he’s good for this offense.  
 

We need middle LB the most on my opinion.

I  agree about LB need but also think RB is also a need,  I need to see less of Allen as our top rusher

[SoCal Deek]

Singletary is good enough as the starting RB. He proved that in the last few games and the playoffs. In fact he looked an awful like Thurman the way they were using him in the short passing game!  That dump off (check down) over the middle of the defense worked EVERY time they called it. The problem was the O Line and Daboll. 

[buffalojedwardo]

two good Baylor backs you could take late. 

Abram Smith- Converted from LB, James Connor clone. 

Trestan Ebner- Handled KR/PR duties, Played special teams, Good receiver, Solid speed/size combo. 

[JMM]

No. Absolutely not. Love the kid, showed grit this year. But NO.

[billybrew1]

We definitely need to add more talent to the running back position. We need more talent and we need more depth.

I don't think we need a quick scat back, we need a big, fast everyone down power house. Maybe there will be one in round two....

 

Go Bills!

[KOKBILLS]

No...

 

He's fine as a complimentary though...And I felt like he really became a more seasoned pro this year. Still...It's not that the Bills need a stud RB to win it all...They don't...But boy if they had one...

[Ethan in Cleveland]

For those that want an upgrade they only have so much cap and so many draft picks.  Im finding it hard to upgrade/replace 1-3 DEs, DT, WR, C/G and CB.

Are you all thinking draft or FA?

[billybrew1]

44 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I  agree about LB need but also think RB is also a need,  I need to see less of Allen as our top rusher

Unfortunately, it would be exceedingly difficult to replace Edmunds or Milano, imho.... We can't even find a suitable backup.

I agree that both LBs are far from perfect but both are also very good at certain things.

The improvements must be made elsewhere. If you Billieve Bean, the improvements are going to have to come from in house.

Its entirely possible, the Bills draft a DE in the first round once again....

I think we're OK at tackle with Star backing up Harry and Boogie relieving Ed from time to to time. We'll probably bring Zimmer back as well as a some time backup to Ed.

We have three DEs for next season, Epenesa, Groot and Basham. We have to have all three of those players take a big step in development this offseason. 

[Hebert19]

No.  

 

But he us a fantastic backup. 

[RobbRiddick]

I say no. I'm greedy, I want a game breaker with speed that puts fear into defenses

[Hebert19]

James cooke in the 3rd or 4th please. 

[Jerboski]

Nah we can upgrade here, hope we keep Singletary for a nice change up

 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, davefan66 said:

Singletary has speed.  And he’s good for this offense.  
 

We need middle LB the most on my opinion.

Oh you'll never find me arguing we need to find 49's replacement but 4.66 is hardly speed from your best RB.  We need Moss's replacement to be under 4.5

[Patrick Duffy]

He is fine when the OL blocks decent and he gets more than 5 or so touches a game. I mean we saw the difference last 5 or 6 weeks of the season. Once they got the OL right he started getting chunks at times. From then on Daboll finally gave him a few more opportunities. His attempts didn't go up a whole lot, but definitely got more than usual. 

 

With all that said.....I do think they still need another RB that's a little speedy and reliable hands because I'm not sure about Moss and Breida obviously isn't it. 

[Solomon Grundy]

I'm a big Breece Hall fan, but if they can't get him I can settle for Kevin Harris from South Carolina later. 

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Not the worlds biggest singletary fan.  Would rather priortize a better oline though than a better running back. 

 

The OLine makes everyone better. 

 

I’d like more speed on both sides of the ball, but you win the game in the trenches. Both sides of the ball. I’m fine with Motor, and if we can add speed that is all the better. 

[Nihilarian]

I wasn't a fan of drafting Najee Harris. Now that I've watched him play for Pittsburgh, I kinda wish we had. 

 

Devin Singletary is good enough. The Bills have other glaring needs.

[davefan66]

2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

I disagree,  it showed on that second down run

I looked at the entire season.  Not just one play.  Problem is. He’s only good as his run blocking, pass blocking and play calling.  All of which were suspect through the season at times. Otherwise, I’d say he’s a good back.

 

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Oh you'll never find me arguing we need to find 49's replacement but 4.66 is hardly speed from your best RB.  We need Moss's replacement to be under 4.5

 Speed is relevant.  I’d his 40 great?  Maybe not.  But is his game speed?  Actual speed he produces witching the confines of the game?  I’d say he’s good enough.  
 

40 speed is important once you break past the LOS.  Behind the LOS he needs to pick his holes and keep his speed at how fast the oline blocks for him.  He can’t hit dull speed and pass his blocks.

Edited January 29, 2022 by davefan66

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

I thought he did a great job when they actually utilized him. If we used him earlier I think some of those fluke losses wouldn't have happened. We have a nice balance with him and Moss, I think he's underrated to be honest which is a huge asset for us. I do think we should have a 1-2 punch between him and another bruiser so maybe some competition for Moss as the change of pace type.