Divisional Round: Buffalo at KC Sunday at 6:30

[muppy]

8 hours ago, Bimmer323i said:

Just went poking around the Chiefs forums for something to do and man what a bunch of ignorant uninformed *ocks… One idiot says they feel better about beating us than they did the Steelers lol must be there all jacked up and feeling tough cause they just beat a bad bad Pittsburgh team… I’m so fired up for this game and after reading those forums I’m even more fired up…. Go Bills

it is well known from reading 2bd and seeing it myself their KC fan board is an utter disgraceful pit.... Reading that site is good for laughs if you like lowbrow very unintelligent takes written by knuckle draggers just sayin'

 

 

7 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Gotta keep Mahomes from rolling to his right and a lot of that falls on the rookie Rousseau.

will be a huge challenge for the rookie but he's not alone on an island so I guess Bills D will attempt to neutralize him as best they can and force him into making errant throws. He's not perfect. Rattle his cage!!!

Edited January 17, 2022 by muppy

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, BassToMouth said:

Chiefs fans are talking about not having ingram and Jones and now Buffalo not having White, so they’re banking on that. None seem to realize how important Milano is and that he didn’t play that first game. Probably Bc it was only mentioned once and grudgingly confirmed by Collingsworth in between one of the 30 times he said the chiefs didn’t have Chris Jones 

 

Chris Jones is the biggest difference factor from game 1 to game 2. If the Bills control him I really believe they will advance. 

[muppy]

May I just say that their weapons do concern me on offense but THEY have #17 #14  and the rest of OUR offense to deal with. I Like our chances. The Bills will need to drop Kelce like a bad habit I cant stand that guy....smug *****

 

GO BILLS!~!~!!!

[mjpbills]

Wallace is my biggest concern in this game. He needs to turn his head instead of grabbing the receiver.

[bills6969]

2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Bills will know if they are playing to host the AFC Championship game or not. If they are, that will be their preseason goal right in front of them.

Would be magical if we could host the AFCCG.

[Steptide]

Just don't wear the white on blue uniforms 

[BuffaloRebound]

Our Defensive Ends are gonna have to step it up if we wanna win this game.  Gotta keep Mahomes in the pocket.  Our Ends gotta stay disciplined and keep contain (that means you Jerry).  Groot’s length should be a factor as Mahomes likes to drop down and throw from weird angles.  

On offense, Josh has to find a way to vary the snap count.  Will be hard to do at Arrowhead but Clark off the edge tries timing the snap the entire game.  

[bigK14094]

10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

By the way weather report shows between 20 and 30 degrees but sunny all next Sunday in KC

Weatherunderground shows kickoff at 39F

[bills6969]

Mahomes is so good;  the only way you can stop him is with good pass rush.  Don’t let him have time in the pocket, otherwise he’ll kill ya.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Just don't wear the white on blue uniforms 

 

THIS! 

 

I fear we will though.

[Greg S]

8 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Just don't wear the white on blue uniforms 

 All whites (current) please.

[CorkScrewHill]

9 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Allen is better and more accurate, Mahomes still throws some bad passes, usually in the dirt.

 

 

Josh still throws some bad passes as well .. sadly the narrative is different. To the media Mahomes is a wizard and Josh is sugar-high. Even on remarkable similar plays. Mahomes yesterday threw a ball across the field within my opinion too much air under itand the announcer said only 1 QB could make that throw (i.e., Mahomes). @FilthyBeast has a point .. the Bills need to probably get to the Super Bowl to flip the narrative. Having stated that, we have a good chance to win or lose this game. It is a fairly evenly matched game. It will not be the end of this run if they lose, nor will it be the sign of the Chiefs demise if they win. Both teams have at least a few more years of dominance ahead of them barring an injury to two of the best young QBs in the game. I also agree with @FilthyBeast (I am going to go take a shower after finishing typing this) that if you strapped all the GMs up to lie detectors and said pick 1 and only 1 QB for the next 10 years most would pick Mahomes, with some electing for Josh, Burrow, and Herbert. That is likely the end of the list at least at present. Great company to be in.  Unfortunately they all reside in the AFC.

 

I truly hope the Bills win next Sunday (want that so badly), but if not, it has been a great couple of years and I will look forward to 2022/2023. Keep in mind 6 years ago we would have been thinking about how to once again spend our top 15 pick and debating whether we would ever break the curse.  This is a great time to be a Bills fan no matter what comes.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

16 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

I love what this team showed last night against the Pats and the statement that Allen and McDermott made vanquishing a past demon. They have proven me wrong and I actually am happy about that. BUT....KC is a different animal especially on their home field and this is a team that finished the season winning 10 of 11 including tonight with the only loss coming in the final minutes against another hot team on the road.

 

I still hate the fact that this team did what they needed to earlier in the season and won in KC when they were in early season figure it out mode which should have secured the home field advantage over them in such a high stakes game next week, but now they have to go do it again in much different circumstances and with Chris Jones back in the lineup and he was the single reason the Bills offense was destroyed last year.

 

Bottom line is Mahomes is truly showing he very well might be the next transcendent player in this league and I hate the idea of watching the Chiefs be in the SB almost every year like the Brady Pats and feeding the national media hype machine. And speaking of Brady that's the only QB to ever beat Mahomes in the postseason.

 

It's all there for the Bills next week as they face a true defining moment in their franchise history and if they can't beat the Chiefs when it actually matters in a postseason game (regardless of venue) they likely never will.

You are the Jackson Mahomes of TBD. Every time I see your screen name I throw up a little in my mouth in anticipation of the garbage that is sure to follow. 

Edited January 17, 2022 by HereComesTheReignAgain

[947]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Our Defensive Ends are gonna have to step it up if we wanna win this game.  Gotta keep Mahomes in the pocket.  Our Ends gotta stay disciplined and keep contain (that means you Jerry).  Groot’s length should be a factor as Mahomes likes to drop down and throw from weird angles.  

On offense, Josh has to find a way to vary the snap count.  Will be hard to do at Arrowhead but Clark off the edge tries timing the snap the entire game.  

This was something I noticed with TJ Watt last night. He repeatedly went inside to try and pressure Mahomes, allowing him to easily roll to his right & complete a pass for a big play. Early in the game, Watt was playing contain and the game was even. Then after Watt scored the TD, he started rushing inside the RT sometimes & Mahomes utterly destroyed them every time he did it. I don't know if that was by design, or just Watt trying to add sacks to his resume, but it certainly contributed to the butt-kicking.

[wjag]

Watching that game, it was pretty clear that the Chiefs wanted to put a lot of things on tape for Buffalo to consider.  Highlighting McKinnon's speed and sending Pringle and Hardman out on patterns.  That Kelce TD pass has to scare the beejeebees out of the Bills.  How the heck do you defend against that creativity?  Think you seen it before, that quick little shovel pass to Kelce?  First run it early with ?McKinnon? to show it.  Run it a second time but this time with Kelce.  The Steelers jumped it only to find that Kelce hops up and throws it.  Brilliant play call.  Something else I think I noticed.  The big man TD was thrown to the right.  I'm not sure about this, but I don't think I have ever seen one thrown to the right by a right handed QB.  Feels like 100% of them are center cut or thrown to the natural throwing motion of the QB, to the left.  Lastly, the Mahommes run of 25 yards.  They wanted Buffalo to know that was there for the taking too. 

 

Buffalo also wanted to show KC some stuff.  The Big man TD.  Allen taking the underneath stuff and then delivering the long ball.  Singletary pounding the rock.  The Allen designed runs. Reminding the Chiefs what weapons Knox and Davis are.  While trick plays were not required against the Patriots, you have to believe Daboll won't hold back in this game.  I don't recall too many Bills games where Allen pitched the ball on an RPO, but that was shown too. 

 

This has all the earmarks of a great game.  Neither team has the upper hand motivation-wise.  Vegas thinks it will be close.

20 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Just don't wear the white on blue uniforms 

 

They were all white in week 5, that's my guess.

[SCBills]

I’m glad KC looked like prime KC last night. 
 

Not that I think they ever needed to get our attention, but our Defense surely knows the task ahead of them after watching the dismantling of Pittsburgh.  

[Dan]

I think the season long rankings are a little skewed, because the Chiefs started so slow.  So as I see it, we’re mirror images on offense.  Both teams have a dynamic, game changing QB that can make plays in every way.  And both teams have the offensive play makers to scare any team.  
 

I do think the Bills have the slight edge on defense.  Our guys are more disciplined and just all around solid.  But it’s certainly not enough to shut the Chiefs completely down.  
 

So in the end, I think this game is going to come down to the coaching staffs and the in-game adjustments.  Add to it which team just wants it more.  And I think that will determine the winner.  
 

Let’s  just hope the Refs call an even game because I’d hate that to be the headline on here next Monday. 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Dan said:

I think the season long rankings are a little skewed, because the Chiefs started so slow.  So as I see it, we’re mirror images on offense.  Both teams have a dynamic, game changing QB that can make plays in every way.  And both teams have the offensive play makers to scare any team.  
 

I do think the Bills have the slight edge on defense.  Our guys are more disciplined and just all around solid.  But it’s certainly not enough to shut the Chiefs completely down.  
 

So in the end, I think this game is going to come down to the coaching staffs and the in-game adjustments.  Add to it which team just wants it more.  And I think that will determine the winner.  
 

Let’s  just hope the Refs call an even game because I’d hate that to be the headline on here next Monday. 

Agreed.  
 

Both Offenses are elite, and very similar.  
 

Bills Defense is better, and more of a constant pressure. Constant DL rotation throwing talented bodies at the OL/QB.  Good at every level. They typically don’t make mistakes and are usually stingy on every play. 
 

KC has more individual game wreckers on the DL and tests the refs willingness to flag physical play in the secondary.  
 

The only player that can match Josh Allen, when he’s “on” is Patrick Mahomes, and vice-versa.  
 

OL needs to show they are for real against Jones, Ingram and Clark.  Also, McDermott needs to be working the refs pre, and during the game, if KC gets handsy in the secondary. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

KC Buffalo may be seen as the AFC SB

depending on who actually makes it to the dance 

 

The GMFB crew wants this game to happen like tomorrow 

 

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Brand J]

Going back and watching the highlights of that week 5 game, Mahomes ran all over the place, often in key situations. Leslie Frazier will have his work cut out for him in this one. The offensive line will as well, as this may be the best defensive line we’ll likely see for the rest of the postseason.

[Greg S]

49 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

KC Buffalo may be seen as the AFC SB

depending on who actually makes it to the dance 

 

The Bengals and Titans are both excellent teams. Any of the four teams would represent the AFC well. Hoping for a Bills (obviously and Bengals win so the AFCCG is in OP.

[CapeBreton]

Jerick McKinnon looked solid and dynamic last night. I hope Clyde Edwards-Helaire is back on Sunday, he is just not very good but they drafted him in the first round and have to play him. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Agreed… though I expect this game to be close and the Bills haven’t won a close game all year… mostly due to the offenses inability to finish… if they are down a score and have the ball for the win, hopefully they can finally find a way in crunch time. 

 

They really have to. It is the knock on this offense. That too many times this year they, and Josh included, have had the ball in their hands at the end with a chance to win big games - in Tennessee, in Tampa and against New England - and have failed to get it done. If we are going to win it all one of the next 3 games likely comes down to that. Time to put up or shut up. 

[wjag]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Ag
 

OL needs to show they are for real against Jones, Ingram and Clark.  Also, McDermott needs to be working the refs pre, and during the game, WHEN KC gets handsy in the secondary. 

 

FIFY

 

 

[ALF]

So far should be nice weather for the game.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

9 pages in and you bitchasses are still talking about the announcers.  

THE ANNOUNCERS.

 

Sack up people!  Who the hell cares who’s talking during the game.  Do we need another 9 pages on which uniforms they’ll be wearing?  Shall I brew some tea for everyone?  Decaf I assume?

 

Jeebus. 

Yeah I'm always down for a good cup of tea. 

[Ya Digg?]

It’s actually quite entertaining listening to some of these guys on the radio/tv this morning saying Buffalo can’t do what they did again, but have no problem thinking the Chiefs can consistently put up 40-50. I just wish Buffalo had a top ranked defense and/or an offense that scored more points than KC…..

[stevewin]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

This may have been said already but the good thing about playing the chiefs and them looking so dominant last night is that the hype on the bills won’t be as insane this week as it would have been with another opponent. The bills played a better offensive game against a better defense but I think that will be balanced  out by how good the chiefs looked. Don’t want the team to be overconfident. Should be a great game. 

Yeah the vibe I've gotten from the Bills team the last few weeks is loose, extreme confidence in themselves- not over-confidence which is a big distinction.  Mentally, physically, on-field execution- they seem to be peaking at just the right time - for just the right game.

Edited January 17, 2022 by stevewin

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Oh FFS....  they have given us the late Sunday slot. 11.30pm UK time. 

 

I would normally take the Monday off but I can't next week as I have to brief a Minister for a legislative debate the following day. 

So - high level meeting? 

 

j/k 😛

[dave mcbride]

31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They really have to. It is the knock on this offense. That too many times this year they, and Josh included, have had the ball in their hands at the end with a chance to win big games - in Tennessee, in Tampa and against New England - and have failed to get it done. If we are going to win it all one of the next 3 games likely comes down to that. Time to put up or shut up. 

Versus Jax too.

[Awwufelloff]

This is the AFC Championship game. Whoever wins this is going to the superbowl.

[Steptide]

Bills need to pressure the bleep out of Mahomes. He struggles under pressure, even last night against the Steelers, he couldn't complete a pass when under pressure. I agree with whoever said it though, whoever wins this game will go to the superbowl 

[pigpen65]

Week 5 game would have been a blowout by the 2nd quarter had the refs not intervened. Result will be the same if the refs stay out of this one. With the amount of coin the league has invested in Mahomes and Rogers I don't trust that being the case even a little bit though. There will be phantom holding calls and phantom interference calls going against Buffalo from the get go while the KC CB's will be riding piggy back down the field on the Bills recievers. They are going to have to play a near perfect game to overcome it. 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

 I also agree with @FilthyBeast (I am going to go take a shower after finishing typing this) that if you strapped all the GMs up to lie detectors and said pick 1 and only 1 QB for the next 10 years most would pick Mahomes, with some electing for Josh, Burrow, and Herbert. That is likely the end of the list at least at present. Great company to be in.  Unfortunately they all reside in the AFC.

 

Actually they did something like this after last season and the surprising outcome was that a majority of the GMs they talked to would take Allen.  They saw the two QB' as being very close skill wise and felt that Allen's bigger size and having already navigated playing through hard ties (2018) indicated that he had the better long term potential.

 

 

[patzen]

Wow, I'm unbelievably excited for this game. Reid and Bienemy vs McDermott and Frazier. Daboll vs Spagnuolo. Allen vs Mahomes (yes I''m aware they don't actually play each other). And a lot of other exciting matchups. This game should be unreal!

[CincyBillsFan]

11 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Pretty much and this is where I still have doubts and wish Allen and the offense would have save some of what they unloaded against the Pats for next week because history has shown Allen rarely puts together back to back elite performances where it's been the norm for Mahomes.

 

You need to get a new history book.  Last season Allen put multiple elite performances back to back.  Remember, in 2018 Allen started on a team that was undergoing a complete offensive overhaul as a rookie.  That rebuilding process wasn't complete until the 2020 season with the arrival of an elite WR in Diggs.

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

51 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

The Bengals and Titans are both excellent teams. Any of the four teams would represent the AFC well. Hoping for a Bills (obviously and Bengals win so the AFCCG is in OP.

 

in terms of Star Power

 

Allen vs Mahomes is the ultimate match up

 

no disrespect to A A Ron or Grampa Brady 

17 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

This is the AFC Championship game. Whoever wins this is going to the superbowl.

that’s pretty much what I thought 

[CincyBillsFan]

11 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

I love what this team showed last night against the Pats and the statement that Allen and McDermott made vanquishing a past demon. They have proven me wrong and I actually am happy about that. BUT....KC is a different animal especially on their home field and this is a team that finished the season winning 10 of 11 including tonight with the only loss coming in the final minutes against another hot team on the road.

 

I still hate the fact that this team did what they needed to earlier in the season and won in KC when they were in early season figure it out mode which should have secured the home field advantage over them in such a high stakes game next week, but now they have to go do it again in much different circumstances and with Chris Jones back in the lineup and he was the single reason the Bills offense was destroyed last year.

 

Bottom line is Mahomes is truly showing he very well might be the next transcendent player in this league and I hate the idea of watching the Chiefs be in the SB almost every year like the Brady Pats and feeding the national media hype machine. And speaking of Brady that's the only QB to ever beat Mahomes in the postseason.

 

It's all there for the Bills next week as they face a true defining moment in their franchise history and if they can't beat the Chiefs when it actually matters in a postseason game (regardless of venue) they likely never will.

I disagree with all of this:

 

*  You don't love that the Bills played great on Saturday night.  Just be honest with us that Allen and the Bills almost perfect performance against NE just makes your trolling harder.

 

*  Mahomes already is a transcendent player.  He doesn't need to show anything.  He's a handful.

 

*  You don't hate the idea that the Chiefs will be in the SB every year - you're actively rooting for it especially if they beat Buffalo in the playoffs to get there.

 

*  It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Chiefs beat the Bills this week and Mahomes outplays Allen.  Of course it wouldn't surprise me if it goes the other way to. These are the two best teams in the AFC and they'll be fighting it our for years.

 

*  I believe that the Bills are on the cusp of a series of Super Bowl runs like back in the early 1990's.  And IMO this season is the 1989 season minus the bickering part but with all the inconsistency as the team learned to play week in and week out at an elite level.  On an encouraging note going forward this current Bills team has had a better season then the 89 Bills did which bodes well for the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

The highlights from our earlier win against the Chiefs are worth a watch...my key takeaways:

 

1) I had forgotten that we didn't have Matt Milano for this game. AJ Klein played reasonably well in his place, but that makes the defensive performance even more impressive.

2) We wasted the early forced fumble on the kickoff return by Siran Neal which set us up in field goal range. Moss had a 20+ yard run down inside the ten yard line called back by a Dawkins holding penalty. Then Allen took an intentional grounding penalty on third down, forcing us to punt. 

3) Also forgot that this was Josh Gordon's first game with the Chiefs and there were rumors all week about him being a huge X factor. Had one great leaping grab early on to bail out Mahomes on a broken play, but otherwise we did a good job on him. 

4) We saw the potential of Zach Moss in this game, so instrumental in grinding out the clock in the fourth quarter. Ran hard, blocked well, and was an effective outlet in the passing game. It's too bad he's been so inconsistent especially with his vision, doubt he gets many snaps on Sunday. 

5) Allen's two TD throws to Sanders were equally beautiful...put the perfect velocity and arc on the first one and Allen did an outstanding job of manipulating the safeties with his eyes as well. The second one was a laser in between two defenders while rolling out to his left...might only be two other QBs in the league who can make that throw. 

6) This was Greg Rousseau's breakout game and the best of his rookie year. Had a big run stop/TFL on a 3rd and 2 to force a punt and then had the tipped ball turned INT later on. Consistently held the edge and helped to collapse the pocket. 

7) Spencer Brown really held his own against Frank Clark...obviously everyone's focus will be on limiting Chris Jones on the interior, but Dawkins and Brown vs Clark and Melvin Ingram will be important 1-on-1 battles on Sunday. 

8) Daniel Sorensen was beaten like a drum in this game...wonder how KC will adjust. I believe Juan Thornhill is getting more snaps these days in his place. 

9) Both QBs had a lot of room to scramble and picked up several key first downs this way. 

10) Micah Hyde had the play of the game with that pick-six. Felt like that's when you knew for sure the Bills were going to win. What a player. 

 

https://youtu.be/yxiOnaTUows

 

 

 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Not sure this is right thread but any idea on where one should stay in KC?  Is rental car needed?  Looks like stadium a good ways from airport and not in downtown. There less than 48 hours but would like to grab some bbq or hit any major site.  Is there a Bills backer club or place to go Sat night.  This will be a heavy weight fight.  Go Bills.