Jeffbigalls Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Your comment is spot on 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: The Pats are not even close to better across the board. and i wont even entertain your qb statement. You're talking out your a**. its embarrassingĀ Yes they are lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Ā I was wrong about the Jets and off by a game since the Colts did what I expected the Jets to. Ā You can believe whatever you want about the Patriots game but they are the better team across the board and it's not even unrealistic to say they have the slight edge right now at QB when you look at Mac Jones numbers in his last 6 compared to Allen. Ā Also people still insist on calling this guy a 'game manager' despite the Pats leading the league in scoring differential and average 35 points a game in their 6 game streak. Game managers simply don't do that and there's nothing the Bills defense is going to do to slow him down and we won't even get anywhere near him with our pass rush which means he'll continue to dink and dunk up and down the field and make big plays in the play action game similar to the what Tannenhill did against the Titans (who BTW the Pats defense destroyed yesterday unlike the the Bills). Ā And the way Allen has played in recent weeks is a nightmare matchup against the Pats defense who won't even have to worry about making the Bills offense one dimensional because they already are so expect another multi INT/turnover game which will also enable the Pats to win and win big in this game. Your first statement damages your credibility -- which was already on pretty thin ice. Your post as a whole? Heck, your entire SCHTICK as a whole? It's getting really old, really fast. You've risen up the "trolls to be ignored" list incredibly quickly. Bravo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: The Pats are not even close to better across the board. and i wont even entertain your qb statement. You're talking out your a**. its embarrassingĀ Ā I can post the facts if you like, even if Allen is better than Mac Jones what does it say that the Pats have a near identical point differential and offensive numbers compared to the Bills with a rookie QB who cost a fraction of what Allen does? Ā If Allen is the QB some of you think he is this team should beat the Patriots and do it handily. Unfortunately neither is probably going to happen because Belichik is going to expose this coaching staff like he did 6 straight times prior to last year and make Allen look like he did against the Colts, Steelers, etc. 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Your first statement damages your credibility -- which was already on pretty thin ice. Your post as a whole? Heck, your entire SCHTICK as a whole? It's getting really old, really fast. You've risen up the "trolls to be ignored" list incredibly quickly. Bravo. Ā Like I said to the other poster, go compared the facts and look at Allen's numbers vs Mac Jones specifically in the last 6 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Do we practice today?Ā Any news on Mongo, Brown or Star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Do we practice today?Ā Any news on Mongo, Brown or Star? Not until Wednesday.Ā McDermott gave them 5 days off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Remember last year when everyone was saying the Dolphins had caught up to the Bills and that second game in OP was going to be the proof of that? Ā The Pats have a six-game winning streak, it's true. Ā In those six games they have beaten, in order: Ā the hapless Jets, the paper-tiger Chargers, the decimated Panthers, the similarly-decimated Browns, the laughable Falcons, and, yesterday, a Titans team missing the three players most responsible for Tennessee scoring enough points to beat the Bills by 3 at home. Ā Congratulations. Ā Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Casey D said: Not until Wednesday.Ā McDermott gave them 5 days off. Ā Wednesday?Ā Really?Ā I thought they would have used the extra time off to at least add another practice on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Ā Wednesday?Ā Really?Ā I thought they would have used the extra time off to at least add another practice on Tuesday. I think teams are pretty beat up at this point in the season. Another day of rest and recuperation may be more beneficial than practice.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Ā Wednesday?Ā Really?Ā I thought they would have used the extra time off to at least add another practice on Tuesday. They canāt just add practices. Also, usually they wonāt practice until Thursday because of the Monday night game. They would then practice on Saturday instead of Wednesday.Ā Edited November 29, 2021 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I love the narrative from the Pats fans. Ā They are an unbeatable juggernaut, their rookie QB will just continue to amaze, Bills will be lucky to stay in it, 6 game win streak all due to how great we are, will not lose again....and on ...and on. Ā We are an enormous underdog in the minds of these people, and can only hope to compete a little. Ā We are in a great position, the media and fans will do all they can to further this spot for us as the week goes on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: That would make sense but I have a feeling Frazier will be scheming to make sure Agholor and Harry don't beat us deep for some reason. I think you mean Bourne not Harry for the second one. Ā Bourne IMO was the best WR FA pickup of the two. Iād say Jones 3 favorite targets are Meyers, Bourne , Henry.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Doesnt mean coaches are not coming up with a game plan. Ā Get a little rest come in ready to roll.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: You can believe whatever you want about the Patriots game but they are the better team across the board and it's not even unrealistic to say they have the slight edge right now at QB when you look at Mac Jones numbers in his last 6 compared to Allen. Ā Mods - can this quote be pinned?Ā I think we might have a TBD Record. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I love the narrative from the Pats fans. Ā They are an unbeatable juggernaut, their rookie QB will just continue to amaze, Bills will be lucky to stay in it, 6 game win streak all due to how great we are, will not lose again....and on ...and on. Ā We are an enormous underdog in the minds of these people, and can only hope to compete a little. Ā We are in a great position, the media and fans will do all they can to further this spot for us as the week goes on. What Patriot fan is saying that? I know I am not, as I have said previously I came into this year figuring the Bills win the division and the Pats would be in the playoff race with between 9 to 11 wins. Ā (said this before the season started) Ā Now do I think the Pats can beat the Bills? Yes. Will it be easy? No.. Ā As I stated in this thread I believe any outcome will not shock me especially since both teams have played terrible games (Jags, Texans) and also played at high levels (KC, Dallas)..Ā Ā Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: That would make sense but I have a feeling Frazier will be scheming to make sure Agholor and Harry don't beat us deep for some reason. Defend 10 yards and in. I know Mac will take a few shots downfield but Belichick will primarily stick to his run, screens, slant format. I would rather get beat giving up a bomb to Ugholor than letting them dink and dunk us for 6 fgs. Edited November 29, 2021 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Ā Mods - can this quote be pinned?Ā I think we might have a TBD Record. Wait did he just say Jones > Allen? Umm No.. better coached? Maybe (talking OC) .. better? NO CHANCE IN HECK! Ā Allen is the better player right now and itās not close. Ā Ā That doesnāt mean the Bills win just that they have the better QB.Ā 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Defend 10 yards and in. I know Mac will take a few shots downfield but Belichick will primarily stick to his run, screens, slant format. I would rather get beat giving up a bomb to Ugholor than letting them drink and dunk us for 6 fgs. Itās not BB who calls the O thatās MacDaniels. Ā Also easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffbigalls Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I think you mean Bourne not Harry for the second one. Ā Bourne IMO was the best WR FA pickup of the two. Iād say Jones 3 favorite targets are Meyers, Bourne , Henry.Ā Start getting Smith more and more involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Wait did he just say Jones > Allen? Umm No.. better coached? Maybe (talking OC) .. better? NO CHANCE IN HECK! Ā Allen is the better player right now and itās not close. Ā Ā That doesnāt mean the Bills win just that they have the better QB.Ā Itās not BB who calls the O thatās MacDaniels. Ā Also easier said than done. Ā Coaching is definitely in the Patriots'* favor and it's not even in the same universe. Ā My biggest fear is the Bills' coaching staff over-thinking/over-coaching and trying to get cute, rather than make a gameplan based on who we have, what we do well and which matchups we can exploit --- which is exactly what makes Bill Belichick the best. Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Wait did he just say Jones > Allen? Umm No.. better coached? Maybe (talking OC) .. better? NO CHANCE IN HECK! Ā Allen is the better player right now and itās not close. Ā Ā That doesnāt mean the Bills win just that they have the better QB.Ā Itās not BB who calls the O thatās MacDaniels. Ā Also easier said than done. Ā It reminds me of when Jets fans kept saying Darnold is better than Allen. How did that work out? Game Manager Jones is doing well but he is nowhere near Allen in talent.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 With Mac Jones playing well and the Pats defense back to their nasty ways... there really is no blueprint out there on how to beat these guys?!Ā Ā Let's hope McD, Frazier and Daboll figure one in a hurry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: Ā Coaching is definitely in the Patriots'* favor and it's not even in the same universe. Ā My biggest fear is the Bills' coaching staff over-thinking/over-coaching and trying to get cute, rather than make a gameplan based on who we have, what we do well and which matchups we can exploit --- which is exactly what makes Bill Belichick the best. Ā This is the truest sentence in this thread. Ā Ā 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: Ā Mods - can this quote be pinned?Ā I think we might have a TBD Record. *bangs gavel* Iām sold on McKorkle, dammit.Ā Edited November 29, 2021 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Greg S said: Ā It reminds me of when Jets fans kept saying Darnold is better than Allen. How did that work out? Game Manager Jones is doing well but he is nowhere near Allen in talent.Ā Lol I heard āGame Managerā on this site for 20 years with Brady. Ā (No Jones isnāt Brady but you guys love your game manager insult lol) What I donāt get is why people think thatās bad. As a rookie I want my QB be a game manager while he learns anything more is inviting disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: What Patriot fan is saying that? I know I am not, as I have said previously I came into this year figuring the Bills win the division and the Pats would be in the playoff race with between 9 to 11 wins. Ā (said this before the season started) Ā Now do I think the Pats can beat the Bills? Yes. Will it be easy? No.. Ā As I stated in this thread I believe any outcome will not shock me especially since both teams have played terrible games (Jags, Texans) and also played at high levels (KC, Dallas)..Ā Ā Ā Ā At least on the internet, most Pats fans have written the Bills off as a threat.Ā Mac Jones is already playing than Brady ever did in his 1st few years, the defense is the best in the league, they still have the GOAT coach, and the league should be cowering in the face of yet another Pats dynasty. Ā It's not ALL Pats fans of course, but that seems to be the growing consensus.Ā Ā Ā The media is right onboard, as well. Every narrative is "here we go again," and "at least the other teams in the division had a year." Ā Which is all stuff I don't mind. The Bills didn't do well when they were hyped. I'm hoping they can get back on track being under the radar. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Success Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Someone might have mentioned it, but BB said that the D was practicing punching the ball out all week last week. And they got 4 turnovers yesterday. Ā Ball security & making sure those punts get off in time will be key.Ā Come to think of it, let's avoid punting altogether. Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Let's see how Mac does on Monday night with our defense and the Stadium deafening signal callers. If he survives that we can talk about NE and KC in theĀ championship game. My feeling is the Bills know this game can catapult them into home field throughout thus NE will get their best. We haven't seen Josh's best yet this season.Ā Bills get an early lead and the defense plays downhill. You can match positions all you want, when a team gets down early generally young QBs get uncomfortable.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) What is the best game a rookie or young inexperienced QB has put up against a McDermott coached defense?Ā Ā I can't think of one, every qb that plays good against this defense has been a veteran (besides mahomes) Edited November 29, 2021 by Cheektowaga Chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 LOL, former Cheats LB Matt Ch(e)atham on OBL.Ā They're not exactly thrilled coughing up 272 rushing to the Titians.Ā We better see lots of Breida next Monday night. 18 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This is the truest sentence in this thread. Ā Ā Ā Correct, McD doesn't cheat, as far as we know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Success said: Ā At least on the internet, most Pats fans have written the Bills off as a threat.Ā Mac Jones is already playing than Brady ever did in his 1st few years, the defense is the best in the league, they still have the GOAT coach, and the league should be cowering in the face of yet another Pats dynasty. Ā It's not ALL Pats fans of course, but that seems to be the growing consensus.Ā Ā Ā The media is right onboard, as well. Every narrative is "here we go again," and "at least the other teams in the division had a year." Ā Which is all stuff I don't mind. The Bills didn't do well when they were hyped. I'm hoping they can get back on track being under the radar. Ā Well right now statistically I think they do have the top D and a GOAT Coach. That said anyone who is a Pats fan doesnāt see this year as a bonus year is just lying. (Bonus as in unexpected and definitely before we expected them be so good.) Ā Bills are the better team will be interesting if the better coaches can make the less talented team win. Ā Again as I said repeatedly I want a good game with no major injuries hurting either team.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The one thing that gives me hope for this year with the Pats is that the Bills coaching staff has proven with the KC victory that it can gameplan for a team that looks unbeatable.Ā The pats are vulnerable and Jones is due for a meltdown (Kind of like rookie Josh had VS the Pats in 2019). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, boco357 said: Ā Newsflash Belichick.....NO ONE LIKES YOU! Ā Except for the gushing media who continue to refuse to acknowledge the many times you've cheated your way to championships. Go Screw Yourself! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol I heard āGame Managerā on this site for 20 years with Brady. Ā (No Jones isnāt Brady but you guys love your game manager insult lol) What I donāt get is why people think thatās bad. As a rookie I want my QB be a game manager while he learns anything more is inviting disaster. Ā Honestly I wish Allen had a bit more Brady/game manager in him. As amazing as he can be sometimes, when he refuses to play to the sticks and isn't hitting on chunk plays it costs us drives.Ā Brady has been vocal his entire career that basically he is always playing for the first down. At some point a first down will be a touchdown. I don't want Colt McCoy behind center either. But no QB can be consistently reliable at converting 3rd and 7 over and over again, because you keep taking shots deep on early downs.Ā Edited November 30, 2021 by Mango 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Ā I was wrong about the Jets and off by a game since the Colts did what I expected the Jets to. Ā You can believe whatever you want about the Patriots game but they are the better team across the board and it's not even unrealistic to say they have the slight edge right now at QB when you look at Mac Jones numbers in his last 6 compared to Allen. Ā Also people still insist on calling this guy a 'game manager' despite the Pats leading the league in scoring differential and average 35 points a game in their 6 game streak. Game managers simply don't do that and there's nothing the Bills defense is going to do to slow him down and we won't even get anywhere near him with our pass rush which means he'll continue to dink and dunk up and down the field and make big plays in the play action game similar to the what Tannenhill did against the Titans (who BTW the Pats defense destroyed yesterday unlike the the Bills). Ā And the way Allen has played in recent weeks is a nightmare matchup against the Pats defense who won't even have to worry about making the Bills offense one dimensional because they already are so expect another multi INT/turnover game which will also enable the Pats to win and win big in this game. Ā The fact that you expected the Jets to do what the Colts did should discredit anything you say and tell this board exactly who you are. Ā Bills defensed faced Henry, Brown, and Jones. Pates defense faced none of them. Ā Your post are troll garbage. Get a new schtick. Edited November 29, 2021 by Scott7975 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The Patriots certainly have a good team.Ā But I think many Bills fans are annoyed by the un-tempered exuberance being showered upon them these days by football talking heads on television and elsewhere. I watched Good Morning Football on Friday morning following the Bills v. Saints game.Ā The overriding opinion of the panel was that the victory shed no light on the Bills as a team because they beat an injury depleted Saints team.Ā While a fair point, there was no mention that the Bills offense was great against a Saints defense that was relatively healthy or that the game was basically over early in the second half.Ā Contrast that with the discussion about the Patriots win this morning on GMFB, where the panel gushed about the Pats being the best team in the AFC while failing to mention that the Titans rushed for 270 yards despite missing their 3 best offensive players; and kept the game close until early in the 4th quarter despite missing key defensive players and having made made numerous devastating mistakes (2 fumbles, missed field goal and extra point, horrible tackling, etc).Ā I get that the talking heads on shows like GMFB are simply entertainers, who rely on new storylines to keep fans engaged.Ā But their inconsistency in dealing with the Patriots is particularly annoying to non-Patriot fans, especially given the past 20 years.Ā Ā All of this is to say, that I am really looking forward to the game on Monday.Ā Like every one else on this board I care most about the Bills winning each week, winning the division, and hopefully winning the Super Bowl.Ā But a Bills win on Monday comes with a bonus; quelling the recent unabashed media love-fest for the Patriots.Ā 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Wait did he just say Jones > Allen? Umm No.. better coached? Maybe (talking OC) .. better? NO CHANCE IN HECK! Ā Allen is the better player right now and itās not close. Ā Ā That doesnāt mean the Bills win just that they have the better QB.Ā Itās not BB who calls the O thatās MacDaniels. Ā Also easier said than done. Ā That dude is our resident troll. Ā He likes to pump up all teams not named the Bills. Ā He said the Jets would destroy us. Ā Last year it was Miami, Pats and the Jets. Ā Well I guess this year is not much different. Ā McDaniels never gets enough credit because how good BB is. Ā He is one of, if not the best OC's in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Ā The fact that you expected the Jets to do what the Colts did should discredit anything you say and tell this board exactly who you are. Ā Bills defensed faced Henry, Brown, and Jones. Pates defense faced none of them. Ā Your post are troll garbage. Get a new schtick. basically each week is the same narrative and then when the blind squirrel finally stumbles upon his nut he mumbles some sort of idiotic "i told you so" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol I heard āGame Managerā on this site for 20 years with Brady. Ā (No Jones isnāt Brady but you guys love your game manager insult lol) What I donāt get is why people think thatās bad. As a rookie I want my QB be a game manager while he learns anything more is inviting disaster. Ā Game manager is not bad IF... you have the defense to back it up and said game manager improves to a franchise QB. Ā Game manager QBs don't last long. Ā No idea which way Mac goes but he has a strong start for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astb41 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 rollin out the throwbacks... Ā https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/controller/controller.php?action=single-weekly&game_id=2021_NE-BUF^13 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Ā Game manager is not bad IF... you have the defense to back it up and said game manager improves to a franchise QB. Ā Game manager QBs don't last long. Ā No idea which way Mac goes but he has a strong start for sure. Exactly, right now this is the best ANY Pats fan could have hoped for.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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