Tre White knee injury UPDATE: Out for the Season Notification top of page 1

[CNYfan]

I think I agree with the "let's see how it plays out" comment.

I am in for 27 to NWLAFB and a wait and see with optimism approach.

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I knew my post would be very unpopular here. I get the blow back and why most here want to remain positive. This in one guy the Bills couldn't afford to lose. The Bills were already vunernable in the trenches, inconsistent pass rush, and a suspect running game. How in the world do you think they can overcome the loss of their lockdown corner? One of the top 3 corners in the league. Take off your Bills homer cap and realize that the Bills season has dramatically changed for the worse. This team will be fortunate to make the playoffs and if so it's a one and done. No comments necessary. Just shake your head in disgust.

They will make the playoff but it will be tough from there because White is our best defender.  

44 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

White is not just a great CB he was a team leader and very popular with his teammates. We're going to miss him for sure

[Hebert19]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Lets do this. $27 for my favorite Bill, done. Great cause too.

 

 

Has anyone figured out how to donate from Canada  

[Mattymafia]

43 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Yeah, the Bills are flawed multi-fold though. I really have a hard time getting over these delusions of grandeur that we are some hidden contender. Or even a favorite. The Bills are a middle of the pack team that may win one playoff game(with or without Tre.) The field is so tight right now they may not get in at all. 
 

McD got out coached by Reich, Tomlin, Vrabel and Urban f’in Meyer. This team needs a retooling of sorts cause right now, we are like the Chiefs….figured out. 

Relax. Wait until the next game before you're ready to throw the season away. If the Bills treat the patriots like a little brother and whoop up on them, the season is not lost. Tom Brady is really the only QB with big enough weapons to really do harm on our defense with a missing corner left on the schedule. This team has laid some stinkers but the AFC is anyones race and it will come down to match ups in the playoffs. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Well that sucks 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

6 minutes ago, Mattymafia said:

Relax. Wait until the next game before you're ready to throw the season away. If the Bills treat the patriots like a little brother and whoop up on them, the season is not lost. Tom Brady is really the only QB with big enough weapons to really do harm on our defense with a missing corner left on the schedule. This team has laid some stinkers but the AFC is anyones race and it will come down to match ups in the playoffs. 

I am relaxed, just call them as I see them without the assistance of red and blue tinted glasses. 
 

The Bills could smoke the Pats in their mouth and it wouldn’t change my thinking about the current state of affair. 

[UKBillFan]

Even without Tre, on paper we still have a decent roster and should be able to have one eye on going deep into the season. However, we have to face facts, we have very clear issues with the team which has not been addressed despite numerous 'warning' signs and that was WITH Tre in the team. You can hope yesterday's match outlined some progress on offence but it was against a beaten up Saints.

 

Am I being pessimistic or realistic? Maybe a bit of both. Tre's injury for me doesn't change much in my mind - we were and are not, for what ever reason, ready for a deep run into the post season.

 

Get well soon, Tre.

[Bob in STL]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I knew my post would be very unpopular here. I get the blow back and why most here want to remain positive. This in one guy the Bills couldn't afford to lose. The Bills were already vunernable in the trenches, inconsistent pass rush, and a suspect running game. How in the world do you think they can overcome the loss of their lockdown corner? One of the top 3 corners in the league. Take off your Bills homer cap and realize that the Bills season has dramatically changed for the worse. This team will be fortunate to make the playoffs and if so it's a one and done. No comments necessary. Just shake your head in disgust.

Sure, like no team has EVER won anything with a starter injured.  
 

You should just stop watching and stop posting.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I actually don’t expect a huge drop off

You’re crazy

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

You’re crazy

So you think the loss of one player is going to completely crater the defense?  I also do not anticipate a massive drop off….a little, yes. Massive, no. 

[BeastMaster]

I don't think that this is as big of a deal as some are making it our to be.

 

I like Tre, and he's got above average instincts and ball skills, but physically and athletically he doesn't stand out amongst many of his peers.

 

The will shift some help Jackson's way and maybe play a little less aggressive in the secondary to mitigate the drop off in talent.

 

These guys can still run with anyone when they are on their game

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

So you think the loss of one player is going to completely crater the defense?  I also do not anticipate a massive drop off….a little, yes. Massive, no. 

 
There’s a lot of room between expecting a huge drop off between a pro bowl player and “completely crater the defense”.  I didn’t say the latter 

[Sundancer]

4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Misdirected hostility much?

 

Like I said, I wasn't as worried about running it back as others were as I felt Wallace was underrated and Dane showed a lot of promise his Rookie season. But in losing White with very little depth behind him, when there were opportunities to improve the situation, at the very least in the Draft is now a very dubious decision and there's really no arguing it anymore. 

Totally should be in an nfl front office bro. The Pegulas are missing out on your second guessing Beane. 

[Chicagobills]

29 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

I don't think that this is as big of a deal as some are making it our to be.

 

I like Tre, and he's got above average instincts and ball skills, but physically and athletically he doesn't stand out amongst many of his peers.

 

The will shift some help Jackson's way and maybe play a little less aggressive in the secondary to mitigate the drop off in talent.

 

These guys can still run with anyone when they are on their game

I don’t think you understand how good Tre is. Qbs literally ignore his side of the field and don’t throw his way because he is that good. Wrs simply don’t get separation 

[Just in Atlanta]

As good as he is, and he is very good, I find it hard to believe his absence will sink the secondary. We have the best secondary in the league, and Tre white is one reason. Not the whole reason.

 

 

[Scott7975]

Horrible loss. I dont think we could have a worse loss outside of Josh/Diggs.  Most important defensive player on our team IMO.

[QCity]

21 minutes ago, Chicagobills said:

I don’t think you understand how good Tre is. Qbs literally ignore his side of the field and don’t throw his way because he is that good. Wrs simply don’t get separation 

 

Most are still in the denial phase I think. This new narrative of "it'll be alright, just play more zone" is comfort food.

[Chaos]

20 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said:

As good as he is, and he is very good, I find it hard to believe his absence will sink the secondary. We have the best secondary in the league, and Tre white is one reason. Not the whole reason.

 

 

He is most of the reason.

[RyanC883]

SB teams often lose a stud during the season.  If this sinks our team, we don’t have a well constructed team.  

[Chicagobills]

I’m not saying season over but this is a major hurdle 

[Herc11]

Losing White is definitely going to impact our defense. Im sure our defensive strategy will adjust to give Jackson safety help. Or we go after a serviceable CB. The lone bright spot is that we have an offense thats able to go toe-to-toe with any offense in the league. 

Edited November 27, 2021 by Herc11

[Big Blitz]

The Eagles lost Wentz and never had a shot with Nick Foles.  Was such an unfortunate disaster.   

[SCBills]

37 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Most are still in the denial phase I think. This new narrative of "it'll be alright, just play more zone" is comfort food.

Its countering “the sky is falling” crowd. 
 

We got housed by Tennessee and Indianapolis with Tre.  
 

Does it hurt?  Yup, but it as it always was… up to our Offense to win a title.   
 

Do you think Mahomes can?  He’s got Jones, Matthieu and some randoms.  
 

How about Lamar?  His defense is awful.  
 

Tannehill?  Vrabel doesn’t have a ton on that side, but they’ve made it work.  
 

We still have guys:  Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, Johnson, Hyde and Poyer.  Then add in a deep, heavily invested in DL.  
 

Losing Tre isn’t an excuse for the Defense to be *dramatically* worse.  
 

We arent, or at least shouldn’t be, a Rams losing Ramsey where they invested all their resources in two players. 
 

 

Edited November 27, 2021 by SCBills

[97bills]

30 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Most are still in the denial phase I think. This new narrative of "it'll be alright, just play more zone" is comfort food.

Yep everyone will see when we play the bucs 

[Putin]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I dont know if I agree witht his or not.  I need to see how they actually play without Tre.

 

Dont forget.....McD is the guru of defensive backs and has a reputation of turning chicken ***** into chicken dinner

If I’m not mistaken the last game that Tre missed was against the Titans last year , if that’s what we got looking forward to I’ll pass on that dinner 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, 97bills said:

Yep everyone will see when we play the bucs 

We’ll have to score, stop the run and get pressure on Brady with the DL.  
 

If none of that happens, we get smoked, with or without Tre..  (see Ten/Indy) 

 

Those minimizing the loss of Tre like it’s nothing are cope, but some of y’all are opposite end of the spectrum annoying.  

[JoshAllin]

Looks like the doomers are out the wood work again

[BillsDiehard]

Is Vontae Davis available?

[DapperCam]

48 minutes ago, Chaos said:

He is most of the reason.

Disagree, we have the best safety tandem in the league.

[97bills]

2 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I said rebuild the o line. I don’t think the loss of Tre is that big of a deal. Middle of the pack defense’s win SB’s all the time. Trenches are more important. The O line is the real issue here. 
 

We are not getting deep in the playoffs, let alone getting to the SB with this O line. So I’m not stressing the loss of Tre. It is what it is. 

I with you on the oline even when we do win a game Allen is getting killed.  It’s like most fans don’t watch the games, we’re just not we’re we need to be yet, the oline is terrible the defense plays one good game then two awful, the running game is bad i mean we’re beginning for Breida, but we do have the number one piece QB, and I’m so thankful for that. With just a little help next year this team should be ready, and we shouldn’t have all that hype next year. GO BILLS 

[SCBills]

21 minutes ago, Putin said:

If I’m not mistaken the last game that Tre missed was against the Titans last year , if that’s what we got looking forward to I’ll pass on that dinner 

They scored on every drive after the 1st Quarter this year with him…?

[Apocalypse Nuts]

1 hour ago, Chicagobills said:

I don’t think you understand how good Tre is. Qbs literally ignore his side of the field and don’t throw his way because he is that good. Wrs simply don’t get separation 

This.  Tre is not the fastest DB out there and he makes up greatly for it with his incredible technique.  I think they can do a lot more man coverage because of him.  
Dane is a decent to good DB but don’t anyone kid themselves if you think he’s going to be halfway near what Tre brings to the table.

[Putin]

28 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

We still have guys:  Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, Johnson, Hyde and Poyer.  Then add in a deep, heavily invested in DL.  

 

Don’t forget our CB1  Levi Wallace  & CB2 Dane Jackson will be fiiiiiiiiiine !!! 

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

They scored on every drive after the 1st Quarter this year with him…?

So you’re trying to tell me it could have been worse ?? 

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Putin said:

Don’t forget our CB1  Levi Wallace  & CB2 Dane Jackson will be fiiiiiiiiiine !!! 

So you’re trying to tell me it could have been worse ?? 

Who did the Chiefs have at corner when they murked us in the AFCCG?   
 

Who do the AFC leading Titans have in their secondary?  
 

This is why you pay coaches.  Not every play is practice drill one on one with our corners. 

 

Edited November 27, 2021 by SCBills

[Apocalypse Nuts]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Its countering “the sky is falling” crowd. 
 

We got housed by Tennessee and Indianapolis with Tre.  
 

Does it hurt?  Yup, but it as it always was… up to our Offense to win a title.   
 

Do you think Mahomes can?  He’s got Jones, Matthieu and some randoms.  
 

How about Lamar?  His defense is awful.  
 

Tannehill?  Vrabel doesn’t have a ton on that side, but they’ve made it work.  
 

We still have guys:  Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, Johnson, Hyde and Poyer.  Then add in a deep, heavily invested in DL.  
 

Losing Tre isn’t an excuse for the Defense to be *dramatically* worse.  
 

We arent, or at least shouldn’t be, a Rams losing Ramsey where they invested all their resources in two players. 
 

 

I think this is probably spot on, SCBills.  Great analyses of those other teams.  The Bills D shouldn’t collapse but they will have to make some serious adjustments to make up for the loss of a true lock-down corner.  Things just got a lot tougher.  

[Putin]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Who do the Titans have?  They manage to not get smoked every game. 
 

This is why you pay coaches.  Not every play is practice drill one on one with our corners. 

All I’m going to say is this if we can not get constant pressure with our front 4 it won’t be pretty 

[Mango]

2 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

I don't think that this is as big of a deal as some are making it our to be.

 

I like Tre, and he's got above average instincts and ball skills, but physically and athletically he doesn't stand out amongst many of his peers.

 

The will shift some help Jackson's way and maybe play a little less aggressive in the secondary to mitigate the drop off in talent.

 

These guys can still run with anyone when they are on their game

Part of the issue is I am not confident in Wallace. I think he already gets help a lot, and 39 gets beat a bit. 

[billsfan89]

6 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

Agree. But if there is a system and team that can absorb this it's us. 

 

That is my feeling, I think it will hurt but not as bad as some think.

[Just in Atlanta]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

He is most of the reason.

1/3

 

Poyer? Hyde?

 

OR, perhaps we’re doomed.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

That is my feeling, I think it will hurt but not as bad as some think.

We'll find out against Tompa Bay!!