nucci Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽. Will improve defense, run/pass. Will make Edmunds Report obsolete. If Brandon make this move, his name will change to Merlin is it a 2nd or 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Miami / Watson is officially d.o.a. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, x-BillzeBubba said: Miami / Watson is officially d.o.a. So by 3:45 the trade should be finalized! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, x-BillzeBubba said: Miami / Watson is officially d.o.a. and it was definitely a real thing and they weren't just completely full of ***** these past few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Houston and the league do better by trading him this offseason in an open bidding war where a number of QB needy teams might take part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: I may get blasted for this but: I still believe Beasley gets traded today. Yes, he's good. However I feel like Davis is getting healthier, Knox is due back and Sweeney showed well. His production can be absorbed. Beas is also nearing the end of his deal and I don't see them bringing him back at the price he may command. If we can move him to help improve the pass rush or interior OL I believe it's a move you have to make. Lol! You "may" get blasted for this? You will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Don't trade depth when you're going for a title. One injury and all of a sudden you're in trouble at WR if you trade Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 My hope is Beane can move Trubisky. Top choice for an IOL. But if not, see if you can move MT for a 3rd or 4th. Trubisky was always a one year rental insurance policy. The years half over, move him. Sure, there's some risk. I'm on of those (in the minority it seems) that wants the Bills to be good for the next decade vs the all-in on the one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, wjag said: This is my thinking.. Buffalo spends too much time building a team, a culture and managing the cap (for long term) to blow it up on trade deadline day. Sure in the early days when they had assets to sell, but not now. I don't see it happening. I can almost predict the press conference. "Sure we had some things we were interested in, but the price and fit wasn't right for the team." .... Agree there. Could see them making some trade for depth, but nothing anyone is going to get all that excited about. Read a few potential trades yesterday, think it was in The Athletic, most involved 6th or 7th round picks in exchange for player making about $1 mil salary. Comments above about glaring needs, IMO that's a huge over statement as overall the Bills are in the top 10 if not top 5 in most offensive and defensive categories. Hard to say they have any glaring needs with the exception of the interior line and doubt you're trading for someone who's going to be a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Per Spotrac Fletcher Cox would have a dead cap of $36 million if traded. Even splitting that in '21 and '22 is onerous and it's not like Bills have the room to take on any of it. He would make a big difference, it would be great to have a rotation of Cox, Oliver and Star with a little Zimmer or an edge guy mixed in but I don't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Lots of chatter on Twitter that Bills and WFT discussing Trubisky trade. Trubisky is trending in my Twitter feed over it too. Also chatter that Saints have inquired too on Twitter. Edited November 2, 2021 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said: My hope is Beane can move Trubisky. Top choice for an IOL. But if not, see if you can move MT for a 3rd or 4th. Trubisky was always a one year rental insurance policy. The years half over, move him. Sure, there's some risk. I'm on of those (in the minority it seems) that wants the Bills to be good for the next decade vs the all-in on the one year. If we need to rely on Trubisky, we are screwed anyways so I'm OK with trading him for assets. He's not gonna turn into Nick Foles and win us a championship so might as well trade him. Could flip any picks we receive and get help for this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, jwhit34 said: Per Spotrac Fletcher Cox would have a dead cap of $36 million if traded. Even splitting that in '21 and '22 is onerous and it's not like Bills have the room to take on any of it. He would make a big difference, it would be great to have a rotation of Cox, Oliver and Star with a little Zimmer or an edge guy mixed in but I don't see that happening. Fletcher’s dead cap is philly’s problem, not the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, jwhit34 said: Per Spotrac Fletcher Cox would have a dead cap of $36 million if traded. Even splitting that in '21 and '22 is onerous and it's not like Bills have the room to take on any of it. He would make a big difference, it would be great to have a rotation of Cox, Oliver and Star with a little Zimmer or an edge guy mixed in but I don't see that happening. that dead cap would belong to Eagles, not Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Fletcher’s dead cap is philly’s problem, not the Bills. Agreed but it makes him very difficult to trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: If we need to rely on Trubisky, we are screwed anyways so I'm OK with trading him for assets. He's not gonna turn into Nick Foles and win us a championship so might as well trade him. Could flip any picks we receive and get help for this season. gonna get a 3rd rd comp pick for him. keep him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: If we need to rely on Trubisky, we are screwed anyways so I'm OK with trading him for assets. He's not gonna turn into Nick Foles and win us a championship so might as well trade him. Could flip any picks we receive and get help for this season. I like having him as the backup but it's not like we can get anything for him down the line this is likely a 1 year pitstop for him, so if you can get good value for him I'm not sure you can say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: I may get blasted for this but: I still believe Beasley gets traded today. Yes, he's good. However I feel like Davis is getting healthier, Knox is due back and Sweeney showed well. His production can be absorbed. Beas is also nearing the end of his deal and I don't see them bringing him back at the price he may command. If we can move him to help improve the pass rush or interior OL I believe it's a move you have to make. I do think this is Beasley's last year on the team and do feel a top 3 starting WR group of Diggs, Davis and one more year of Sanders with a rookie drafted fairly high next season would be fine; making a move like that mid-season would set the offense back right now. You can't just write a guy like Beasley out of the game plan without losing something overall. Even bringing in a star at another position, likely would take some time for him to jell with the other players to see as big an improvement as what you're losing in Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Here is some of the chatter on Saints and Trubisky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Houston and the league do better by trading him this offseason in an open bidding war where a number of QB needy teams might take part Only assuming he is not getting his massages in prison. I am sure (and hopeful) that some very large friends return the favor for what he has allegedly done. 👍. Have a seat Desean. If the criminal cases succeed- then not trading him this last summer or earlier this year is a loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: gonna get a 3rd rd comp pick for him. keep him So we are talking about a 2nd round pick then. The WFT 2nd round pick should be top 10, I'd Def do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 If we get fletcher I won’t spend 5 sec worrying about what we gave up. Our picks are hopefully going to be super late anyway. I don’t even really care about the picks tbh. Go win a super bowl. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: My hope is Beane can move Trubisky. Top choice for an IOL. But if not, see if you can move MT for a 3rd or 4th. Trubisky was always a one year rental insurance policy. The years half over, move him. Sure, there's some risk. I'm on of those (in the minority it seems) that wants the Bills to be good for the next decade vs the all-in on the one year. This. Cam or get the WFT to throw in Fitz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Fletcher’s dead cap is philly’s problem, not the Bills. Correct. Cox to the Bills is a bit intriguing. He potentially could fill in as the "old vet" next year when everyone else leaves. The issue is the $16M salary next year but if he agreed to a restructure with a small cut in pay that hit could go way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 50 minutes ago, benderbender said: Where’s Deshaun Watson going? Excellent Boondock Saints reference. Miami are a joke organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: If we need to rely on Trubisky, we are screwed anyways so I'm OK with trading him for assets. He's not gonna turn into Nick Foles and win us a championship so might as well trade him. Could flip any picks we receive and get help for this season. Tough to flip picks into help for this season though, today is the trade deadline. If Wash doesn't/can't offer any IOL that would help for us this year, I would still like Beane to move Trubisky for a decent draft pick. IMO, would be a great overall move by Beane - picked up a top level backup QB for half a season and moved him out for a decent draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lots of chatter on Twitter that Bills and WFT discussing Trubisky trade. Trubisky is trending in my Twitter feed over it too. Also chatter that Saints have inquired too on Twitter. They probably don't want to part with Scherff or any of their DL studs, and Bean probably wants plug n play upgrades, not draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Also lots of Khalil Mack to the Bills chatter and speculation. Seems to be unsubstantiated for the most part and more or less happening because Bills, along with the Cowboys, also inquired on Von Miller which seems confirmed. Seems people assume with the Buffalo connection we would also be calling about Mack. I can’t see how we could even trade for him though given his contract size though, so doubt there is much to this. Not to mention he’s not healthy right now either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, DJB said: I think trading for Lee Smith would be a real boost to our offense I said that two weeks ago in the hypothetical trade thread. Would upgrade edge blocking and would only cost a 7th round pick - hell maybe even less like swapping a 6th for a 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buff76ers Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Friend of mine just said Trubisky to WFT for a 2023 2nd. No link yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Correct. Cox to the Bills is a bit intriguing. He potentially could fill in as the "old vet" next year when everyone else leaves. The issue is the $16M salary next year but if he agreed to a restructure with a small cut in pay that hit could go way down. I think he has like 3-4 years before he’s a UFA. His cap hit next year is $26M. I don’t know how much of that is tied up with Philly. But he is SUPER CHEAP after 2022. Converting his salary to a bonus alleviates a lot of the issues I believe. I don’t think he needs to take a pay cut at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) I think he has a 100% completion rate, also Edited November 2, 2021 by x-BillzeBubba 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Buff76ers said: Friend of mine just said Trubisky to WFT for a 2023 2nd. No link yet. I would hate that. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: They probably don't want to part with Scherff or any of their DL studs, and Bean probably wants plug n play upgrades, not draft capital. Bills would have a real hard time taking on his contract BUT Wes Schweitzer is a completely different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, BillsfaninSB said: I would hate that. Me too... The way Allen throws his body around, we need the insurance policy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mango said: I think he has like 3-4 years before he’s a UFA. His cap hit next year is $26M. I don’t know how much of that is tied up with Philly. But he is SUPER CHEAP after 2022. Converting his salary to a bonus alleviates a lot of the issues I believe. I don’t think he needs to take a pay cut at all. Those are void years. He would be an UFA in 2023. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/fletcher-cox-9822/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buff76ers said: Friend of mine just said Trubisky to WFT for a 2023 2nd. No link yet. Do they not have a 22 second rounder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I said that two weeks ago in the hypothetical trade thread. Would upgrade edge blocking and would only cost a 7th round pick - hell maybe even less like swapping a 6th for a 7th in what feels like was 25 years ago, my friend and I would draft teams in madden. He would always complain because I wanted to draft something absurd like 43 rosters spots, and we only played 2 games max with these teams each time. One of my last picks would always be Lee Smith as my 3rd tight end. Which I would sneak in as my 2nd tight end for the elite blocking in two TE sets.... so all that to say I'M IN haha ironically, unironically. just get er done! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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